USA ready for takeover by Foreign Troops!

Originally posted by WheelsRCool
I think you guys thinking Bush is a NWO guy are nuts. Bush is a capitalist! You can only create a dictatorship through communist/socialist/fascist means.

Bush is a capitalist, he comes from an oil company. Bush is not the one to fear for a NWO. You guys need to do some serious research into this. Environmentalism is the biggest threat being used to promote global government.

Sorry mate but I beleive you are wrong slightly - if you seriously beleive that Bush isnt bringing in a facist society then you only need to look back into your history books and study the methodology of Adolf Hitler and how he came to power, for there are uncanny similarities with that and with what is going on today with the United States.

And as for us thinking that Bush is a new world order guy is nuts - well then I guess the majority of us on ATS here are all NUTS

He is at the very least a NWO puppet, and once again I beleive you should look into the history of the Bush family and see what their pasts hold, which clarifies many things about what and how things are going on now.

Bush didnt win the election democratically at all! so much for a democratic nation and supporting the values let alone trying to promote them around the world, it was decided in the courtroom by recounts and his brother Jeb's involvement in Florida.

Anyway, back on topic - USA ready for takeover by Foreign Troops.

You guys ever wonder maybe why your troops are doing so many tours over in Iraq and their time there is getting always extended?

Doesnt it make you think that Bush wants as many troops there so there would not be many left at home? Thus being more exposed? Or possibly creating the situation that the draft WILL have to be implemented in the case of anything happening?

Or this may even be used as a ploy to the people - give them a choice in the event of a national situation, either the draft comes in or we bring in United Nations Troops because majority of ours are overseas fighting imperial wars against the evil "oil demons" !

I, like many people here on ATS hope that I am wrong with all this, but there are too many bits of evidence that when you sit back and read makes you think....."Damn, this seems like it may be actually going on, why havnt we been told?"

Im just trying to make you guys more aware, thats all. Hope its helping?????

Originally posted by Melbourne_Militia
I, like many people here on ATS hope that I am wrong with all this, but there are too many bits of evidence that when you sit back and read makes you think....."Damn, this seems like it may be actually going on, why havnt we been told?"

Im just trying to make you guys more aware, thats all. Hope its helping?????

Exactly Mel! I totally agree. When I first starting hearing things here and there about Bush I thought, 'noooooo way!'. OMG I was so skeptical and the first to argue with people about the possibility of Bush being involved in NWO and of the plans for the future. I was as blind as many Americans still are today! So to PROVE THEM WRONG, I started researching on the net the things I've heard about. And OMG the more I read the more I realized that what I was hearing about was true! Not just the few things I had heard about but much much much more. One thing led to another. Found out that 9/11 was an inside job, even though I didn't want to believe it, it's sooooooo well explained by many different folks on the net that it's impossible to read their findings and not believe it! That and the camps and martial law, and New Orleans. I'm still learning more. And yep, if Bush isn't in the NWO up to his neck as it seems, he's at the very least a puppet being used by those who are. As the presidents were before him and those to come, if they do. I seriously doubt we'll see an election in 2008, that Dictator Bush will bring about another "terrorist" attack so that he can implement martial law before he's out of office and doesn't have the chance. That he will install himself as Dictator and it will be the end of America as we know it. sigh... Scary stuff there. For the first two weeks straight that I was researching Bush and the things going on right under our noses, I was in total shock. And like you, I just want so bad to help others become aware of the truth.

NOMW

I don't know about the NWO but I do know that Bush wants to set up a Christian Theocracy.

Fellas's,

Just came across this and thought it might be of interest -

Titled - "Mexican trucks get increased U.S. access"

www.washtimes.com...

Mexican truckers soon will have full access to U.S. highways under a new agreement between the United States and Mexico.
Mexican-registered trucks currently are allowed to make deliveries in the United States only within special commercial zones along the U.S.-Mexican border that extend up to 70 miles into U.S. territory.
But Thursday,the first Mexican trucks were inspected by U.S. safety officials under a Bush administration test program that will allow up to 100 Mexican trucking companies to operate beyond the commercial zones.
There will be no limit to the number of trucks that a participating company can operate in the United States, provided the vehicles and their drivers pass safety inspections.
For the time being, the rigs won't be allowed past the commercial zones. However, Transportation Department officials say the "on-site safety audits" are among the last obstacles for allowing full access to U.S. roads and that the trucks could receive final clearance to U.S. roads within the next two months.

I beleive that this is setting the US up for more arms smuglling across the US/Mexico border amongst others things including drugs and possibly foreign troops transported within shipping containers.

Yeah, they might check the first few lots of trucks but after that it'll be free reign......you just wait and see at what sort of things start popping up across the States.

The US government is doing absolutely whatever it can other than sending a formal invitation to Muslim extremists to come to the US and bomb it's cities.

This is bloody shocking.......kick that Bush out now, why cant you Yanks use people power? The military WILL support you if a few million citizens marched onto the White House......its sad to sit here on the other side of the world and watch a country that ONCE led by example become the one that need an example shown to itslef.

Originally posted by Melbourne_Militia

Originally posted by WheelsRCool
I think you guys thinking Bush is a NWO guy are nuts. Bush is a capitalist! You can only create a dictatorship through communist/socialist/fascist means.

Bush is a capitalist, he comes from an oil company. Bush is not the one to fear for a NWO. You guys need to do some serious research into this. Environmentalism is the biggest threat being used to promote global government.

Sorry mate but I beleive you are wrong slightly - if you seriously beleive that Bush isnt bringing in a facist society then you only need to look back into your history books and study the methodology of Adolf Hitler and how he came to power, for there are uncanny similarities with that and with what is going on today with the United States.

And as for us thinking that Bush is a new world order guy is nuts - well then I guess the majority of us on ATS here are all NUTS

He is at the very least a NWO puppet, and once again I beleive you should look into the history of the Bush family and see what their pasts hold, which clarifies many things about what and how things are going on now.

Bush didnt win the election democratically at all! so much for a democratic nation and supporting the values let alone trying to promote them around the world, it was decided in the courtroom by recounts and his brother Jeb's involvement in Florida.

Anyway, back on topic - USA ready for takeover by Foreign Troops.

You guys ever wonder maybe why your troops are doing so many tours over in Iraq and their time there is getting always extended?

Doesnt it make you think that Bush wants as many troops there so there would not be many left at home? Thus being more exposed? Or possibly creating the situation that the draft WILL have to be implemented in the case of anything happening?

Or this may even be used as a ploy to the people - give them a choice in the event of a national situation, either the draft comes in or we bring in United Nations Troops because majority of ours are overseas fighting imperial wars against the evil "oil demons" !

I, like many people here on ATS hope that I am wrong with all this, but there are too many bits of evidence that when you sit back and read makes you think....."Damn, this seems like it may be actually going on, why havnt we been told?"

Im just trying to make you guys more aware, thats all. Hope its helping?????

Our history books don't talk about how Hitler came into power or the methods he used other than a short section about the Holocaust. My daughter's history book is a thin thing that doesn't have much of anything in it at all. The history books get worse and worse each edition.

If your history books (school text books ?) are scarce on info, I would suggest that you seek out reputable, scholarly source materials to educate yourself and family. Do not rely on government approved & printed school texts that brainwash your children into believing things that either did not happen, or gloss over and embellish the facts. I do know that in Japan, students were never taught about Japan's involvement in WWII, think this has changed recently.

Break out and think for yourself with materials that others have provided. There is a multitude of material out there.

Best to search now before all books are banned ...seriously

[edit on 26-2-2007 by resistancia]

I have heard many things about this topic but it is hard to locate them.
One thing I did find out recently it was on T.V. about "BlackWater" it's non-Government training camp for training troups they might even be train foreign troops also here's a link to BlackWater.


LINK : www.youtube.com...

Here's some more

Link : www.youtube.com...

Link : www.youtube.com...

Let me know what you think. Also if these guys are wearing black masks and don't speak to people maybe they are hiding something like in a video I saw in NYC, I will try and find the video.

Blackwater's track record in Iraq has been dismal. They've suffered a much greater percentage of casualties over there than the US military. Why would any well armed resistance fighter fear anyone trained by them?

The amount of fear-mongering I see on the corporate controlled media outlets is nauseating. The sheople will be cowed but those of us who are knowledgeable will easily and succesfully resist any foreign fighters who think they can pacify us 'weak and decadent' Americans.

Don't worry, dude. If all turns to custard, I'll fight alongside you, mate.

Cheers, Mate. you'll probably have to sneak in through Canada to get here. I guess, you can be another one of the millions of illegal aliens in the USA!

I saw a map in one of these videos that shows how the NWO want America to be carved out and which countries get which parts of America to "occupy"
Does anyone know a link to a good site where i can see this chart as a jpg instead of through the video?
thanks

what was the video mate?

Sorry, i forgot. It was about the NWO and how the NWO leaders would carve up the USA into 3-4 sections or zones. A foreign military would be in charge of each of the zones. For example, Chinese on West Coast, Russia in the Center of USA and another countrys military for East Coast etc..
Its supposedly a plan drawn up by one of the major secret societies like The Illuminati.
thanks

Originally posted by Melbourne_Militia
what was the video mate?

Originally posted by Kr0n0s
I saw a map in one of these videos that shows how the NWO want America to be carved out and which countries get which parts of America to "occupy"
Does anyone know a link to a good site where i can see this chart as a jpg instead of through the video?
thanks

Not sure if this is what you wanted, but these are the only 'maps' I know of. This article was evidently once part of the 'Omega File', which has long since been taken off the net.

Here's a paragraph from the article, link is below.

"Operation Cable Splicer and Garden Plot are the two sub programs which will be implemented once the Rex 84 program is initiated for its proper purpose. Garden Plot is the program to control the population. Cable Splicer is the program for an orderly takeover of the state and local governments by the federal government. F.E.M.A. is the executive arm of the coming police state and thus will head up all operations. The Presidential Executive Orders already listed on the Federal Register also are part of the legal framework for this operation."

From what I've learned so far,
South Eastern U.S. is Region 4, Phase III Operation, has Russian troops
South Western U.S. is Region 9, Phase ?, has Chinese troops
New Mexico has German troops

At the following link there are several maps that show different areas, camps, UN troops, etc, and includes info. The maps are underneath where WAKE UP!!! is blinking in red.

It would be great if anyone in here can blow these maps up so we can see them even better!

The UN in the United States
storm.prohosting.com...

Here's another map, it's a pdf file, I copied it to my computer and 'turned it' so I could read it straight. It's messy, but it marks the 10 regions. If you cannot open it, the link that includes it follows (it's the bright blue link on that page near the top:

www.apfn.org...
www.advancedhealthplan.com...


Hope that helps,
NOMW


[edit on 4/6/2007 by NotOnMyWatch]

This is the breakdown of the camps state by state, in canada, and in other countries too:

www.altnews.info...

Pretty scary stuff reading thru what each of the camps are 'intended' for.
Yet people I've talked with about it, friends/family, shrug this off as not being true. sigh... Wish I could shrug it off that easily.

NOMW

Not on My Watch,

I understand how you feel, which is why i started this thread to begin with in the hope that it may become an ongoing thing, and as more people read it the more they may become aware of things going on, aswell as people contributing their little bits of information to get a picture of the whole situation.

Yeah, it is difficult trying to convince the 'sheeple' but its also unfortunate and frustrating that in most cases the sheeple are your family and friends that you care about, and they sit there and listen to you and say that your either paranoid, or "our government will never do that to the people", or say that theres nothing you can do about it anyway.

well yes there is, and this here thread is my and our little contribution to others, through education and perseverance hopefully we can make as many people as possible see and understand the facts.

Keep it up guys, anyone else reading this have any information to contribute here?

Well said Mel! And we do appreciate the thread you've started here, we can all add to it as we find more info and such. It's a very odd feeling to look on those maps and see bases that I grew up around, being used for these camps! I think I've been over every inch of McClellan AFB and Mather AFB in Sacramento, California while growing up, my dad was military and retired, and worked at McClellan as a civilian. Summers I used to go in there with my friends and while waiting for the movie on base to start we'd run around and act like the fools we were. We did all our shopping (food and everything else) on base. Took our pets to the vet on base. Bowled, swam in the pool, went to movies, ball games, dances, the gas station, car repair, everything we needed was on one base or the other. When my sons were growing up, we lived nearer to Mather AFB than McClellan, and I was in the military during the vietnam era, so my sons got to run all over Mather the way I did McClellan while growing up. My sons learned to drive inside Mather AFB. (Those were the days, eeeek!) lol.. When I was in the military, I was stationed at Camp Pendleton and Barstow as well. Both of those bases are in So. California, and are also being used now for these camps. When we went back to Sacramento not too long ago to visit family/friends, I checked out Mather AFB (which is now "closed" to the public). Fortunately, having scoured every inch of that place when growing up, I knew the 'back roads' in, and OMG that's where they have been building several bldgs for these camps! Out in the back-40, where hardly anyone goes. sigh... So I know it's true, I've seen these bldgs out in the middle of nowhere, where there has been only fields for as long as I can remember. (And ermmmm that's longer than I care to mention! hehe) It's so sad to see places where I have fond memories being readied to be used by FEMA and the gov't in these ways.

You are right Mel, my family/friends think I've gone off my rocker when I explain these things to them. My oldest son even got angry with me, mostly because he doesn't want to think I might be 'losing it' or something. I keep trying to get them to open their eyes and look around them, at what is hidden in plain sight right under their noses. Unfortunately, they and so many people (sheeple) like them are just blind! They think America has always been and always will be the greatest country in the world, and how possibly could anything like this happen in a country like ours. sigh.. Am thinking the majority of Americans feel this way, and just continue on their blind way, not paying attention to things around them, not knowing or believing there is a need to. We have been SOOOOOOO spoiled in America for soooooo long, who would think we'd be in danger now from anyone, let alone our own gov't??

It's very hard to know the truth, and try to warn others, try to help them see it, but watch as they go hippity-hop on their merry way. Of course it's going to take a huge percentage of Americans to stand up and say to our gov't NO WAY!!!!! as one collective group. That's gonna be very hard to do, as the majority don't or won't believe anything dangerous is going on. Look at how the media is treating Rosie O'Donnell, who has been using her position on the View to get some of these truths out. Commentators on the media are treating her as though she's losing her mind, saying she should be fired etc. sigh.. It's not like she's the first one to say any of the things she is saying, it's all over the net, by tons and tons of people. Yet the media treats her and what she's saying like they've never ever heard those things before. And so many Americans believe what they hear from the media as 'the honest to gosh truth'.. While the media just continues to lie and pull the wool back over their eyes. It's hard to know how to fight against that! Just hope that more and more folks find their way in here.

I used to be more concerned about this than I am now. Katrina has shown me how incapable FEMA is at managing a disaster on a regional level (throughout the coastal south) so how in the hell could they manage an entire Nation.
Same goes with the UN, the last 5-10 years have really shown me how useless the UN really is.
Not to sound arrogant or anything but unless the US is behind any mission of the UN, they really dont have much of a bite.
I know this whole thing here is supposedly how the Illuminati or Bilderbergs want the NWO to be but I just dont see the United States allowing a multi national force to police our nation.
In this plan, where are the US troops supposedly stationed?
Anyway, I will say this. Im from Texas, I supported Bush when he was Governor here and I supported him in the first 2 years of his presidency.
He is nothing like he was during his terms as Governor and I cant wait till hes out of here.

edit: btw, thanks for the info guys, it is exactly what I was looking for.

[edit on 6-4-2007 by Kr0n0s]

G'day all,

Yeah its been a while, but I came across an article just now that I thought I should post here to re-invigorate this thread and the debate pertaining to it.

The US of A, is in decline, like it or not, and it is all being hidden from the public and mass propaganda is being fed to the "sheeple" because they accept whatever they are fed.

A number of large and wealthy business men have in recent times chosen to invest their money overseas, Bill Gates is one of them, some companies have even moved their headquarters overseas, Halliburton is one of them, closely related to Dick Cheney. Why?

Because they know that something is coming and they want to protect their assests and financial positions as much as they can.

War is coming.

Titled "War is coming to Tuscon" by Lionel Waxmen
azbiz.com...

The violent incident in Cananea, Sonora, has hit the consciousness of Tucson squarely between the eyes. Northern Mexico is in a state of war. Who is fighting? That’s hard to say. Officially, it is the drug- and people-traffickers against each other and the government.

In case you were out of town two weeks ago, about 50 armed men drove into Cananea and killed five policemen and two other residents. The men fled into the hills with police and soldiers in pursuit. In subsequent gunfights, 16 more were killed.

What does the US Government think about this? Major violence just across the border? This is their reply-

The U.S. State Department has issued a travel announcement saying narcotics-related “violence by criminal elements affects many parts of the country.”

In other words, a potentially violent spillage of drug related crime over the border does not bother the Government huh? Funny that, considering they worry about terrorist coming into the US yet "real" threats go unrecognized.

And here’s the part you don’t want to hear. Violence has spread across the border and has resulted in several deaths of Americans residents and visitors. Most such crimes are reported as isolated incidents. But the violence in northern Mexico is not stopping at the border. It’s headed this way and a lot of Tucsonans know it.

It is crossing the border because there is little to stop it. The Border Patrol is in virtual rebellion against its supervisors. They have felt betrayed by prosecution of some of them for what they see as doing their job. Union Local 2544 of the Border Patrol has published its position of “no confidence” in supervisory and command personnel. They have called a meeting (members only) for June 13 to consider their options.

You can’t learn about it in most media, but the whispers around town are people saying they are thinking of getting out. It looks like war and it’s coming here. No government has acted to protect Americans living in Southern Arizona. Our federal government is in full collapse as far as the southern border is concerned. All we get from them is talk. The only action we see is toward integrating Mexico into the U.S. and Canada.

What will it mean when the border is actually abandoned and anybody is free to enter without inspection? It will mean that Southern Arizona, specifically Tucson, could become like Cananea and other parts of northern Mexico. Violence will overtake local police. State and federal authorities will look the other way.

How utterly pathetic of the US Fed Government, not to give a damn bout its residents who are under a serious threat. What will happen when these criminal elements from Mexico plus the Azlatans(i think thats how you spell it) the Mexican Supremacists who want to take California back, join together and launch a cross border war against the US?

Yeah, Yeah, we got a big powerful army I hear you say - well I saw how they helped the southerners with Katrina, so if I was one of them Id be thinking, wheres me guns and ammo, coz as soon as one Mexican crosses that border, Ima gonna blow his head off!

This war isn’t on the other side of the world. This is for our homes, our homes, our homes.

But the feds do nothing. What is happening is according to their plan. Drop in on the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America’s website n spp.gov n and read the plans. Watch discussion of the so-called immigration reform bill, which contains legislation advancing the integration of North America. It’s happening whether you like it or not. And Tucson is on the front lines.

So what I see happening is Mexicans invading the US in the South, citizens organising and fighting back. Feds trying to round up citizens for fighting back. Feds send in national Guard, who are divided between duty to Government and protecting their people.

In the end, the people will suffer for they will be forced to fight a southern invader, whilst watching their back and fighting their own government at the same time who should be protecting them, not stopping them from hindering their goal of a North American Union.

DISGUSTING

The whole Aztlan movement is a total propaganda campaign created by the NWO ot foment racial and ethnic discord on both sides of the border. The Aztlan Empire's traditional northern border was about 100-150 north of Mexico City. The very small group of elites created the idea that "Mexican land" was stolen from them ignores the fact that well over 100 years after Mexico itself broke away from Spanish rule, the Mexican National govt. was still trying to conquer Native American tribes throughout the country. Sub-Commandante Marcos has been leading a Native Resistance/Independce movement in Chiapas for nearly 2 decades. There must be dozens and maybe hundreds of tribes through out the border states that will gladly start putting lead down range on any Mexican Aztlanners who try to take their lands as they did in Mexico. Mexico still doesn't recognize native rights to their ancestral lands.

Most 2nd and even some 1st generation Americans of what can be loosely called Mexican Nationality are strongly opposed to the whole notion of reuniting with Mexico.

Many of the the states bordering the US have far more in common and economic interests with the US then they do with the rest of Mexico.
I strongly suspect like the devolution of both Scotland and Wales in the UK, Mexico is on the verge of breaking up into smaller nations.