New Video Footage of Flight 77 Hitting Pentagon Released

BAHAHAHA! Anyone that believes that is a 757 is a disinfo perp, someone with big denial issues, trying to earn browny points with bigbro, or retarded.


[edit on 19-5-2006 by nihilanth]

I would like to point out the fact that if that was a planes nose than at that angle the plane would of impacted into the ground before the wall... which also increase's its chance at being a missle because generally you want the missle to hit close if not under where the wall meets the dirt not around half way up to have a positive impact and not a missle flying through the building and going of say on the other side.



[edit on 19-5-2006 by nihilanth]

Muaddib I am so sorry I have anger you, you might want to grow up a little I get the feeling I am talking to a 5 year old.
lol if any one is a NUTCRAKER it is you!!! I did not resort to name calling as you did
till now.
Backing lies is what you do best!!!!! with YOUR wildclaimes and exagerations
You are the one thats in denial of the truth. You blive everything the media spoon
feed you.
You couldnt find the truth if it hit you in the face.
I on the other hand do not blive every thing the media feed me its been proven time and time again the media is told what to report and a lot of it is lies.
Their jobs are to SELL news makeing money is how the media make it.
Conspiracy theorists I am not I am Not sure what happen and I post that befor in this thred I did say I dont buy what the Gov are saying and what the media are reporting it dosent add up!!!
If you dont like my opinion thats ok but dont go attacking every one because WE dont blive what you blive in. GROW UP!!
And as for Shots I wouldnt want you to hold your breath lol

Originally posted by cashlink
Muaddib I am so sorry I have anger you, you might want to grow up a little I get the feeling I am talking to a 5 year old.
lol if any one is a NUTCRAKER it is you!!! I did not resort to name calling as you did
till now.

First of all, you obviously did not understand what I was saying, and by looking at your grammar I can see why you have difficulty understanding a simple sentence.

Even i am a conspiracy theorist, but I don't "believe" nor do I agree with many of the conspiracies, this one among them.

But i guess the meaning of that statement i gave is lost to you.

Let me try to make it clear....

Wild claims, fantastical lies and exagerations are what makes all conspiracy theories "nothing more than wild rantings" in the eyes of most people....

Do you understand now what I was trying to convey?....

Originally posted by cashlink
Backing lies is what you do best!!!!! with YOUR wildclaimes and exagerations
You are the one thats in denial of the truth. You blive everything the media spoon
feed you.

You need to present proof, otherwise all you are doing is making more wild claims and trying to be a victim to get some sympathy.

I do agree with one of your statements thou...one person in here needs to grow up, but I am certain it is not me.

Now, if you have anything intelligent to add, or any reliable links which backs your claim then go ahead and post it, otherwise stay out of the discussion.

BTW, i am no moderator but there is a saying that goes something like "if you don't have anything intelligent to say, then don't say anything at all", and I agree with that quote...


[edit on 18-5-2006 by Muaddib]

Muaddib now I see you are crying lol what a baby!
You do not and will not tell me to get off the post you infant.
you are right about one thing my gramer is not that great but I dont need a moron
to tell me that .
Intelligent you are not!! as I said befor GROW UP!!
You are the one thats attacking every one on this thread because we wont blive your crap! THATS YOUR PROBLEM.
Y ou havent proved a thing either, so why dont you get off the link put up or shut up!!
And as for sympathy I do feel sorry for you I really do.
Now as for reliable you havent put up anything all I hear from you is BLAB! BLAB!
BLAB!BLAB! ramble ramble ramble ramble .
I posted on this site to have an intelligent conversation with some one and that some one is not you. I think you need to get a life

Originally posted by cashlink
Muaddib now I see you are crying lol what a baby!
You do not and will not tell me to get off the post you infant.
you are right about one thing my gramer is not that great but I dont need a moron
to tell me that .
Intelligent you are not!! as I said befor GROW UP!!
You are the one thats attacking every one on this thread because we wont blive your crap! THATS YOUR PROBLEM.
Y ou havent proved a thing either, so why dont you get off the link put up or shut up!!
And as for sympathy I do feel sorry for you I really do.
Now as for reliable you havent put up anything all I hear from you is BLAB! BLAB!
BLAB!BLAB! ramble ramble ramble ramble .
I posted on this site to have an intelligent conversation with some one

and that some one is not you. I think you need to get a life

I think you need to be removed from the gene pool. I won't go calling you any names, because then I'd be stooping to your level (which is pretty freaking low from where I'm sitting), but I could think of plenty to describe you.

solidstate the same stands for you to.

solidstate gen pooL !! WHAT ROCK DID YOU CRAWL OUT OF.
get lost

Originally posted by cashlink
solidstate the same stands for you to.

Yeah... typical and expected reply.

Now, how about focusing some of that energy on the so-called 'intelligent conversation' you're after. I know it's hard, but just try.

You couldn't be more one-eyed if you try. And it's people like you, who subscribe to one and only one theory, and end up looking at the world through the narrowest of eyes, who end up completely missing the big picture.

The reality is out there.... not exclusively in your head.

solidstate if you blive the Gov story why are you even on this thread!!!!
Or are you hear to bash Conspiracy theorists who do not blive in the Gov story.
why dont you go find a thread that blives in the Gov story and leave the rest of us alone.

Originally posted by cashlink
solidstate if you blive the Gov story why are you even on this thread!!!!
Or are you hear to bash Conspiracy theorists who do not blive in the Gov story.
why dont you go find a thread that blives in the Gov story and leave the rest of us alone.

I believe that there were more than likely elements of the government who played a part in the S11 events. I am also a conspiracy theorist, but that sure as hell doesn't mean I believe every theory out there. That would make me a crackpot who would lose all perspective on what is real and what is not.

You've illustrated what I've said perfectly - as far as you're concerned, people either believe the government story or they don't. I"ve got news for you - it's not, and never is, that black and white. You need to look at all the evidence, consider the likely events, ask questions, and come to an informed judgement.

I do believe we have been lied to, but I DO believe it was a 757 that hit the Pentagon. Explain to me why the perpetrators would have crashed a missile or small plane into the Pentagon, and then tried to convince the public that it was a 757? Why not just crash a 757 and remove all doubt? And as far as the video goes - if you're basing all of your theories on that alone then your theories are flawed. You try filming an object moving at 600km/h with a camera that records a frame per second and show me how it looks.

Now... how about an intelligent reply this time?

[edit on 19-5-2006 by solidstate]

Originally posted by cashlink
Muaddib now I see you are crying lol what a baby!
You do not and will not tell me to get off the post you infant.

What an eloquent way to express your thoughts...but still you haven't said anything intelligent yet.

BTW the burden of proof lies on the people who claim there was no plane...

Have you ever heard the phrase "you can't prove a negative"?

Originally posted by cashlink
you are right about one thing my gramer is not that great but I dont need a moron
to tell me that .
Intelligent you are not!! as I said befor GROW UP!!
You are the one thats attacking every one on this thread because we wont blive your crap! THATS YOUR PROBLEM.

Is that all your "intelligence" can provide to the topic?...

As everyone in here can see, i am not the one resorting to insults...

Originally posted by cashlink
Y ou havent proved a thing either, so why dont you get off the link put up or shut up!!
And as for sympathy I do feel sorry for you I really do.
Now as for reliable you havent put up anything all I hear from you is BLAB! BLAB!
BLAB!BLAB! ramble ramble ramble ramble .

If you understood the basic principle of any discussion, you would know that the burden of proof lies on the person making the claims... in this case you, and the other members, making the claim there was no plane... so the burden of proof lies on you.

Originally posted by cashlink
I posted on this site to have an intelligent conversation with some one

and that some one is not you. I think you need to get a life

Spare us the drama, stop claiming that you are that "intelligent", and show it...

[edit on 19-5-2006 by Muaddib]

I don't see a Boeing passenger plane in this video.

In addition, I can't understand why only this video was released, but not the numerous others that were seized. Well, besides the freedom of information lawsuits against the pentagon that have been going on for four years. That may have helped. Interesting that the video camera that is to look over the pentagon, the pinnacle of secrecy and strategic planning, only records two frames per second. Even crap cameras record more frames per second. Sounds fishy to me.

What is there to hide by showing all of the video evidence from every camera that recorded this impact? Isn't the truth that a Boeing passenger plane crashed into the pentagon? So why not release all videos? We want to show everyone that this really happened, so show the people.

solidstate I canot blive thats the only video the Gov has with all the videos around
the pentagon and around a two mile area hotels, gas stations, resterants, tourist
The video that are shown, shows very little to nothing.
I think the Gov has something better than this why dont they show it this is the best the Gov has, come on! I feel they are hiding something.
I dont know what they are hideing I would like to know.
Now as for a missile I never said a missile hit the pentagon infact I said in one of my recent post on this thread, I dont know what hit the Pentagon.
I am just like ever one else trying to under stand and get to the truth to many thing do not add up and thats all I am really trying to say.

Infinit8 well said!! thats what Ive been trying to say and a lot of people are saying
the very same thing What is the Gov hiding.

How do you know for certain how many cameras captured the plane?

There is also the people who were on the ground and saw the aircraft as it approached and hit the Pentagon, and there is also the fuselage parts which were seen and captured in pictures at the crash site.

Here are some links where massive amounts of evidence has been presented time and again that it was a plane that hit the Pentagon...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

The following is an excerpt from two of the eyewitnesses who saw the aircraft flying low and hit the Pentagon.

Eyewitnesses to both attacks described scenes that shocked the senses — planes headed calmly toward their targets, flying smoothly as if on final approach for a routine landing.

Then explosions, fireballs, and chaos as bodies fell from the shattered buildings and survivors scattered on the ground outside.

"(The plane) was flying fast and low and the Pentagon was the obvious target," said Fred Gaskins, who was driving to his job as a national editor at USA TODAY near the Pentagon when the plane passed about 150 feet overhead. "It was flying very smoothly and calmly, without any hint that anything was wrong."

Aydan Kizildrgli, an English language student who is a native of Turkey, saw the jetliner bank slightly then strike a western wall of the huge five-sided building that is the headquarters of the nation's military.

'Nobody could believe it'

"There was a big boom," he said. "Everybody was in shock. I turned around to the car behind me and yelled ‘Did you see that?' Nobody could believe it."

www.usatoday.com...

There are actually 84 recordings that were seized and not released. Why not, we already know the truth...don't we? What would releasing the others show us any differently? Lets see them all and put this to rest.

heres the link
flight77.info...


[edit on 5/19/2006 by infinite8]

Originally posted by Muaddib
How do you know for certain how many cameras captured the plane?

There is also the people who were on the ground and saw the aircraft as it approached and hit the Pentagon, and there is also the fuselage parts which were seen and captured in pictures at the crash site.

Here are some links where massive amounts of evidence has been presented time and again that it was a plane that hit the Pentagon...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

The following is an excerpt from two of the eyewitnesses who saw the aircraft flying low and hit the Pentagon.

Eyewitnesses to both attacks described scenes that shocked the senses — planes headed calmly toward their targets, flying smoothly as if on final approach for a routine landing.

Then explosions, fireballs, and chaos as bodies fell from the shattered buildings and survivors scattered on the ground outside.

"(The plane) was flying fast and low and the Pentagon was the obvious target," said Fred Gaskins, who was driving to his job as a national editor at USA TODAY near the Pentagon when the plane passed about 150 feet overhead. "It was flying very smoothly and calmly, without any hint that anything was wrong."

Aydan Kizildrgli, an English language student who is a native of Turkey, saw the jetliner bank slightly then strike a western wall of the huge five-sided building that is the headquarters of the nation's military.

'Nobody could believe it'

"There was a big boom," he said. "Everybody was in shock. I turned around to the car behind me and yelled ‘Did you see that?' Nobody could believe it."

www.usatoday.com...

Bingo. It seems too many people are happy to jump on the 'it wasn't a plane' bandwagon and simply ignore all this evidence. So much solid, documented proof, and yet because the only video released is of low quality and doesn't show much, people are up in arms with theories of being lied to about what 'really' crashed. Great logic that.

And the theory that the wreckage was planted or scattered around the site afterwards - give me a break.

Frankly, I'd say the fact so much startling evidence is being IGNORED is an even bigger conspiracy in itself!!!

There is a lot of red tape behind allowing evidence to be given to the public.

Again, how does that request disprove what the eyewitnesses saw, and the evidence of the aircraft fuselage which is seen in the pictures taken that day?...



Here is a photo of what seems to be the APU (Auxiliary Power Unit) of a 757.







[edit on 19-5-2006 by Muaddib]

I'm not up in arms about it being a passenger plane. I would like nothing more than to have seen a passenger plane in that video, but you simply cannot. I want to believe what I have been told is the truth. So why wouldn't the other 84 tapes be released? What could it possibly hurt to give 100% proof and put the conspiracies to rest? Its not like there is something top secret we can't see on the tapes, is there?