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Originally posted by ceci2006
Poor Muaddib. You can't refute the posts with facts. So you resort to complaining about how they belittle and degrade your political party. Come up with something that is positive about the Republican party--if you can. Write it here. Tell us that they are not sheep who are following a false leader.
But...no...that's like asking for an op/ed piece. Something you refuse to do.
And you won't do it, anyway.
You'd think of this request as another "evil liberal attempt at twisting words".
Originally posted by Rwearjr
[edit on 21-5-2006 by Rwearjr]Mua, I don't mean to sound condescending, but are you implying that the 2000 election wasn't contentious or controversial?
That the person you are quoting said, it is easier for everyone to know who said what, and it is easier to see what you are trying to say.
Originally posted by Rwearjr "excerpted comment"
Originally posted by ceci2006
Poor Muaddib. You can't refute the posts with facts.
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Originally quoted by Rwearjr
You know Ceci, I'm beginning to wonder if ANYTHING will make some of those with their "mind made up" take a closer look at their allegiances?
Originally posted by Rwearjr
“There is a road to freedom. Its milestones are Obedience, Endeavor, Honesty, Order, Cleanliness, Sobriety, Truthfulness, Sacrifice, and love of the Fatherland.”-Hitler
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A man's country is not a certain area of land, of mountains, rivers, and woods, but it is a principle; and patriotism is loyalty to that principle. ~George William Curtis
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I like to see a man proud of the place in which he lives. I like to see a man live so that his place will be proud of him. ~Abraham Lincoln
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There are those, I know, who will say that the liberation of humanity, the freedom of man and mind, is nothing but a dream. They are right. It is the American dream. ~Archibald MacLeish
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America is much more than a geographical fact. It is a political and moral fact - the first community in which men set out in principle to institutionalize freedom, responsible government, and human equality. ~Adlai Stevenson
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America is a passionate idea or it is nothing. America is a human brotherhood or it is chaos. ~Max Lerner, Actions and Passions, 1949
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If you take advantage of everything America has to offer, there’s nothing you can’t accomplish. ~Geraldine Ferraro
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It is the flag just as much of the man who was naturalized yesterday as of the men whose people have been here many generations. ~Henry Cabot Lodge
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The winds that blow through the wide sky in these mounts, the winds that sweep from Canada to Mexico, from the Pacific to the Atlantic - have always blown on free men. ~Franklin D. Roosevelt
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My God! How little do my countrymen know what precious blessings they are in possession of, and which no other people on earth enjoy! ~Thomas Jefferson
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I wish that every human life might be pure transparent freedom. ~Simone de Beauvoir
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Our country is not the only thing to which we owe our allegiance. It is also owed to justice and to humanity. Patriotism consists not in waving the flag, but in striving that our country shall be righteous as well as strong. ~James Bryce
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Men love their country, not because it is great, but because it is their own. ~Seneca
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A real patriot is the fellow who gets a parking ticket and rejoices that the system works. ~Bill Vaughan
I think there is one higher office than president and I would call that patriot. ~Gary Hart
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Each man must for himself alone decide what is right and what is wrong, which course is patriotic and which isn't. You cannot shirk this and be a man. To decide against your conviction is to be an unqualified and excusable traitor, both to yourself and to your country, let men label you as they may. ~Mark Twain
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Patriotism is easy to understand in America - it means looking out for yourself by looking out for your country. ~Calvin Coolidge
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Intellectually I know that America is no better than any other country; emotionally I know she is better than every other country. ~Sinclair Lewis
Originally posted by ceci2006
Originally quoted by Rwearjr
You know Ceci, I'm beginning to wonder if ANYTHING will make some of those with their "mind made up" take a closer look at their allegiances?
Rwearjr,
Be content in knowing that this "affliction" is only present in 29 per-cent of the American population. More people see what's going down in America than you think. We are dealing with some of the last guard who still see virtue in what is otherwise a flawed and deeply destructive administration.
[edit on 21-5-2006 by ceci2006]
Originally posted by ceci2006
Be content in knowing that this "affliction" is only present in 29 per-cent of the American population. More people see what's going down in America than you think. We are dealing with some of the last guard who still see virtue in what is otherwise a flawed and deeply destructive administration.
[edit on 21-5-2006 by ceci2006]
Originally posted by Muaddib
Originally posted by Rwearjr
“There is a road to freedom. Its milestones are Obedience, Endeavor, Honesty, Order, Cleanliness, Sobriety, Truthfulness, Sacrifice, and love of the Fatherland.”-Hitler
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Oh I see....so i guess because some dictators made some quotes, which some of them happen to be similar to what for example the forefathers of the United States believed, it must mean we are in a dictatorship?
humm.... Let me post some patriotic quotes.....
A man's country is not a certain area of land, of mountains, rivers, and woods, but it is a principle; and patriotism is loyalty to that principle. ~George William Curtis
..........
I like to see a man proud of the place in which he lives. I like to see a man live so that his place will be proud of him. ~Abraham Lincoln
..........
There are those, I know, who will say that the liberation of humanity, the freedom of man and mind, is nothing but a dream. They are right. It is the American dream. ~Archibald MacLeish
..........
America is much more than a geographical fact. It is a political and moral fact - the first community in which men set out in principle to institutionalize freedom, responsible government, and human equality. ~Adlai Stevenson
..........
America is a passionate idea or it is nothing. America is a human brotherhood or it is chaos. ~Max Lerner, Actions and Passions, 1949
..........
If you take advantage of everything America has to offer, there’s nothing you can’t accomplish. ~Geraldine Ferraro
..........
It is the flag just as much of the man who was naturalized yesterday as of the men whose people have been here many generations. ~Henry Cabot Lodge
..........
The winds that blow through the wide sky in these mounts, the winds that sweep from Canada to Mexico, from the Pacific to the Atlantic - have always blown on free men. ~Franklin D. Roosevelt
..........
My God! How little do my countrymen know what precious blessings they are in possession of, and which no other people on earth enjoy! ~Thomas Jefferson
............
I wish that every human life might be pure transparent freedom. ~Simone de Beauvoir
...........
Our country is not the only thing to which we owe our allegiance. It is also owed to justice and to humanity. Patriotism consists not in waving the flag, but in striving that our country shall be righteous as well as strong. ~James Bryce
...........
Men love their country, not because it is great, but because it is their own. ~Seneca
...........
The following one is hilarious, but true.
A real patriot is the fellow who gets a parking ticket and rejoices that the system works. ~Bill Vaughan
I think there is one higher office than president and I would call that patriot. ~Gary Hart
...........
Each man must for himself alone decide what is right and what is wrong, which course is patriotic and which isn't. You cannot shirk this and be a man. To decide against your conviction is to be an unqualified and excusable traitor, both to yourself and to your country, let men label you as they may. ~Mark Twain
...........
Patriotism is easy to understand in America - it means looking out for yourself by looking out for your country. ~Calvin Coolidge
...........
Intellectually I know that America is no better than any other country; emotionally I know she is better than every other country. ~Sinclair Lewis
So I guess according to you all those people must be evil dictators too?...
Originally posted by Rwearjr
What? Do you see any relation between the spirit, and content of these quotes, and the quotes I gave you? Are you trying to tell me that the quotes I gave you are similar in ANY way to the spirit of the founding fathers?
Remember Mua, marching in lockstep is NOT patriotism. I can't remember right off hand but I think Thomas Paine said: "Dissent is the HIGHEST form of patriotism."
Originally posted by Muaddib
Originally posted by ceci2006
Be content in knowing that this "affliction" is only present in 29 per-cent of the American population. More people see what's going down in America than you think. We are dealing with some of the last guard who still see virtue in what is otherwise a flawed and deeply destructive administration.
[edit on 21-5-2006 by ceci2006]
Oooh that's right...according to the left, polls made to 1,000-3,000 people represents 71% of Americans....