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Originally posted by faulconandsnowjob
His left eyebrow sure looks funny ^ & the ears seem to be set at a different angle. Paul was really cute, but he did have Dumbo ears :-P lol
[edit on 7-9-2009 by faulconandsnowjob]
Originally posted by aorAki
What I inferred is that they all look different.
John in particular (besides 'Paul')....
if they could get one, why not the lot? (waits for the flames) but we still are not sure about much of the technology they had back then...
But yeah, John looks well different too...
Originally posted by aorAki
reply to post by kshaund
Much as I am tempted by this, philosophically I can't bring myself to do it. I'll take the good with the bad.
[edit on 7-9-2009 by aorAki]
@ Ethera: geez, so they were ALL replaced??!!!
[edit on 7-9-2009 by aorAki]
Originally posted by faulconandsnowjob
Originally posted by Ethera
If I am following you properly, what you are saying is due to different techniques and base pictures utilized, the consolidation may not match others which were altered, explaining the differences in the alleged Fauls.
That's possible. More amalgamations:
Originally posted by Getsmart
Originally posted by kshaund
Reading this thread became much more pleasant with pm on ignore - saves time and prevents distraction from otherwise really interesting discussion...
I wish to thank you kshaund, and also indirectly PMExplorer thus be heightened by a thread with no dissenting opinions.
Originally posted by switching yard
Link to Dick Cavett interview with George Harrison...
www.youtube.com...
Originally posted by Getsmart
The comparison photo showing The Beatles young and then later is most disquieting. Prior to this posting I had been compelled by an array of presumptions to consider it likely that Paul had been replaced. However it appears in the later photo that John's eyes are slightly closer together, but more alarmingly the curvature of the bone structure behind his eyebrows is quite different. It is this structural feature and not his diversionary tactic of wearing round spectacles that makes him look squirrelly rather than with the brow of a Night Templar (please forgive the poetic license).
We can discard the interpretation of them having undergone plastic surgery for aesthetic reasons, given that they for the most part look quite rough around the edges and, personal taste aside, considerably less attractive in their 'ever so slightly older' appearance.
The PID (Paul Is Dead) movement, or investigative inquiry if you will, may be revealing the tip of the iceberg:
There are parties, clubs, groups, elites - call them as you wish - who may find great benefit in influencing people's hearts, minds and souls. The above linked article to the CIA and the Mob's association in controlling the music business is revealing, and from insight based upon personal experience in the field it is confirmed by my observations.
These agencies or gangs operate the business upon instructions beyond their own organisations, for purposes in which they only partially partake. For them it is just a business, be it spying or looting. For the powers that be the stakes are higher and integrated to overall objectives of social control through media, the arts and culture.
In more recent years talent has become a threat to this system, giving the individual artist the possibility of having credibility on their own merit. They rather promote relatively talentless people who become entirely dependent on the 'machine' to pursue their ongoing lives.
It is usual for theaters to have an understudy for lead roles, in case the 'Star' is incapacitated or absent for unknown reasons. Given the magnitude of their role as Super Stars, it is not surprising that such a precaution may have been extended to famous artists upon which entire industries are dependent. Furthermore, having a double lurking in the background eagerly awaiting their turn in the spotlight will tend to keep the meek obedient.
By virtue of having less character and genuine expression, the untalented have a most valuable quality. Just like today's fashion or photography models who are used as blank supports for makeup and hairdos as well as as coat hangers, todays artists have increasingly become bland cardboard characters which teams of professionals emboss with treasures of prefabricated gimmicks having more to do with production technology than with art.
... Eliza Dushku plays a young woman called Echo, a member of a group of people known as "Actives" or "Dolls". The Dolls are people whose personalities and existence in the world have been wiped clean to be imprinted with any number of new personas. Contents of an imprint may include semantic memory, muscle memory, skills, and language, as appropriate for different assignments (referred to as "engagements"). A new persona can be an amalgam of several real people, and the end result necessarily incorporates both strengths and flaws from the template personalities. The Actives are then hired out for particular jobs, which can be anything from committing a crime to enacting a fantasy to performing the occasional good deed. On engagements, Actives are monitored internally (and remotely) by Handlers. In between engagements they are mind-wiped into a child-like state and live in a futuristic dorm/laboratory, a hidden facility nicknamed "The Dollhouse". The Dollhouse is located somewhere in Los Angeles and is a subsidiary of a mysterious research group known as the Rossum Corporation...
en.wikipedia.org...(TV_series)
It is therefore plausible to consider that as a matter of policy, to avoid the disruption of continuity in the cultural feed, that they don't just start over with new people but vastly prefer to continue the cultural fabrication (or destruction) process under the same guise, retaining acquired minds and souls without losing a glitch of their undivided attention. A double is easier and cheaper than the alternative.
Originally posted by berenike
This is a video of George and John at John's home. Early in the clip George refers to 'Beatle Bill' in a derogatory way and from there they go on to mention 'Beatle Ed'.
Whatever the truth of the matter, 'Beatle Bill' seems to be the commonly used term for Paul (or Faul).
Warning for language towards the end of the clip just after John has finished singing.
www.youtube.com...
Originally posted by switching yard
Link to Dick Cavett interview with George Harrison...
www.youtube.com...
Originally posted by Getsmart
He the goes on to say that he can't remember anything about The Beatles days! This is implausible to say the least, if it is indeed George Harrison.
On the other hand, memory loss or partial amnesia is quite practical to avoid being confronted with touchy questions which might reveal identity fraud.
At the onset of the interview, Dick Cavett makes an odd statement referring to The Beatles as "your former organization"
Mentioning even in jest that there were 10 (the second plus the eight others), then replying to Dick Cavett's question "were there that many" he retorts "Didn't you hear of the 18th Beatle?"
He also seemed unusually detached and distant when he said "They just sent four dummies out there". Although the interviewer alluded to four fake Beatles arriving on the US Continent, George (Feorge?) didn't reminisce one iota about such a significant turning point in each of their lives. He was not referring to arriving at a geographical destination, because it would have been HERE and not THERE given that he was sitting in a TV studio in the USA. It was most likely a rhetorical remark ironically alluding to Beatles being "dummies" (the British connotation being akin to a Punch & Judy puppet) "sent out there" [into the public] (my edit).
This interview brings me to believe, to my regret, that he is not George but Feorge, wanting to reap some belated rewards for a grueling role carried forth in the limelight.
... there's an interpretation by more cynical theorists who think these replacements are intentionally done without much care for details, considering the sheeple too stupid to know the difference and too conditioned to question a spoon fed reality.
these illustrate an ongoing process of deceit by the powers that be on the masses. What is useful to envision is the likelihood that media corporations (governing elite, secret societies, Illuminati, cabal, Big Brother) are attached to filling any void that might be created by the absence - or untimely demise - of Stars. And it is probably also a countermeasure for any revelations regarding the motives and events leading to their 'disappearance' they are replaced with phantoms who eliminate any inquiry into associated events:
What would keep other Stars in line with your demands better than telling them that they could just as easily be replaced as Stallone or Faye? The glaring proof that they can pull it off, be sloppy about it, and get away with it, must send chills up their back and ensure silent obedience. Ties to the Mob, the CIA and occult groups heighten the threat.
Originally posted by faulconandsnowjob
At 4:40, Dick Cavett talks about the Beatles' huge influence & how it might have influenced people to take drugs. George said after "Paul" said he took '___', the "whole world went crazy."
Originally posted by berenike
reply to post by diabolo1
Forgvie me for not recognising Phil Spectre with his wig on
Any idea who Beatle Ed might be?
Originally posted by aorAki
I wasn't meaning that you said that...sorry if it came across that way.
What I inferred is that they all look different.
John in particular (besides 'Paul')....
if they could get one, why not the lot? (waits for the flames) but we still are not sure about much of the technology they had back then...
But yeah, John looks well different too...
[edit on 7-9-2009 by aorAki]
Originally posted by faulconandsnowjob
I think your article was removed. Would you repost it? Also, would you share more of your personal experiences?
Originally posted by Getsmart
Saw enough to get out and stay away, something which others less fortunate failed to do. Quite a price to pay for fame and misfortune. Today things have been dissimulated in a more sophisticated corporate veil, but the underpinnings are much the same if more rationalized and more callous even than before.
By the way, regarding one of my previous posts casting doubts on the real identity of various Beatles including John, the photos you posted of John from different time periods didn't seem to have the same odd eyebrow ridge characteristics as that one photo in question, meaning that without further corroborating data that assumption was probably erroneous unless you have other clues which I failed to discern.
Berenike linked to a Youtube video showing John in his kitchen speaking presumably to George Harrison (Feorge seen on the Dick Cavett show?) seemingly referring to him as Beatle Ed. Could this be a clue to his true identity? John does accurately refer to Beatle Bill whom we might consider to be Faul.
Originally posted by faulconandsnowjob
Do you have an opinion as to one hit wonders? It has been speculated that a performer initially does well, starts thinking he can call the shots, i.e., sign on with a new label if s/he wants, only to find that all the labels are basically owned by the same people. So, s/he disappears from the scene. Any thoughts?
There is one pic (the link to external image one) that shows his eyes as blue. John's nose also looks more "pinched" & "beaky" in some pictures than others. I don't know for sure whether any of the other Beatles were permanently replaced, but I'm reasonably certain there were stand-ins at certain points. I don't want anyone's head to explode by going into more possible replacements :-P