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Paul McCartney died in 1966 - replaced by Billy Shepherd

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posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 11:50 AM
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Originally posted by faulconandsnowjob

Originally posted by switching yard
Why would a reasonably healthy 28-year-old man need "a large quantity" of prescription drugs? Were these drugs used as part of a mind control program? This just sounds strange to me that he would have "a large quantity."

Was John taking the drugs himself, or passing them out to his friends? I have to wonder if there was a link to MKULTRA or Tavistock...


I agree with faulcon that both Yoko and May Pang were intel agents and handlers. Their job was to keep Lennon on "the program" and spy on his every action and utterance.



... After John's murder the first promoting of Project Walrus was the ruining of his reputation. John had known he was wire-tapped and was paranoid. After Watergate he filed a lawsuit for wiretap and surveillance and made some progress. Justice Dept. never would admit it actually carried out the wiretap and blamed it on other possibilities...

COVERT WAR ON ROCK BY ALEX CONSTANTINE SUMMARY
www.articlesbase.com...



Same with Linda and Macca.

Maybe, but "Macca" has been knighted. John was assassinated.

It would be nice if those fingerprints turned up. Until then...

Paul's "pert" nose



Faul's beak



^ From Live Aid poster that was later changed to a different picture.


This is the exact same person but:

HE IS OLDER, HEAVIER, a different facial expression, and a different camera angle.

Every photo you do comps with always has something off about it. The facial expression is different so you say their mouths are different shape. The angle is different but close, so you say he has a different nose.

I honestly think you're delusional.



posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 12:29 PM
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Is the song I quoted a new song by Paul McCartney?
I really want to know because that makes sense because John Lennon died in 1980 so now there is only 3.
Is this just a quote or a song?



posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 12:39 PM
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This is the exact same person but: HE IS OLDER, HEAVIER, a different facial expression, and a different camera angle. Every photo you do comps with always has something off about it. The facial expression is different so you say their mouths are different shape. The angle is different but close, so you say he has a different nose. I honestly think you're delusional.




Exactly my point! For every photo like that there is a photo from the exact same angle, where he looks PERFECTLY the same!!

Example?

Take the above "Faul" photo and put it next to a picture of Paul in the very early 1960s...


SAME GUY!!






[edit on 7-9-2009 by diabolo1]



posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 12:47 PM
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Originally posted by dreamseeker
I really want to know because that makes sense because John Lennon died in 1980 so now there is only 3.


Well, it's really two, and if McCartney's dead, it's actually one.

Who would've known, a song made for a Chevy Chase and Dan Aykroyd movie proves McCartney has been dead for awhile now.


Peace


[edit on 7-9-2009 by Dr Love]



posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 12:49 PM
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Originally posted by Getsmart
Check out George Harrison's 1992 interview down the page, he ought to know:

digilander.libero.it...


There are some interesting comps on that page. For example, this one:



I could see how the one on the left could've been turned into the one on the right.



I had wondered why Bill needed a fake mustache, but if he's naturally light-haired, then it would make sense.



It's definitely not Paul, though.



That page also had something interesting about Yoko having been in foreign intelligence. I've started wondering about how/when the Beatles might have become involved w/ intel. I'm thinking maybe they were doing more in Hamburg than just playing. Part of intelligence gathering is monitoring foreign media. Maybe they were reporting on German newspapers, radio, TV, etc.



posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by faulconandsnowjob
Part of intelligence gathering is monitoring foreign media. Maybe they were reporting on German newspapers, radio, TV, etc.


Yes Faulcon that makes perfect sense.


This just gets more and more ridiculous.



posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 12:55 PM
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reply to post by Dr Love
 


This song was in a Chevy Chase movie? What is the name of it?
SO it isn't a new song then.



posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 01:13 PM
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Originally posted by pmexplorer
Sorry but I'm not interested in playing petty and futile games with you.
The only person being shown up here is you for being so immature.

Turning an interesting thread into a flame war is a fairly lame way to try to get a thread you don't agree with closed. Thanks for the open minded good will towards other ATS members. :confused:

Since you think it is all bunk, then you probably think that John Lennon was daft for seeking out those who did in Paul? He would know and it seems he was getting awful close. He was justifiably suspicious of dubious body guards toting guns around him to do without, many have lost their lives at their hands. But he was likely less suspicious embedded Dakota staff. It is interesting how Yoko was not near him and didn't see it happen, Equally interesting was the cover up and inexistent inquiry of such an ordinary event. Skeptics may note that this unsolved murder, at least to any critically minded individual, casts into perspective who stood to benefit and who stood to lose from John Lennon's investigation into Paul's demise:

www.jfkmontreal.com...

Yoko is considered by many, some quite close, as an operative "handler" and we can refer to the Yellow Submarine photo hand signs to understand that Illuminati satanists embedded in the UK and US secret service were behind Paul's violent release from this world. His girlfriend Sylvie Vartan was herself vanished in a similar fashion, most conveniently. Her impostor remains present to this date with next to none of the same effort of continuing her charisma, and with a supposed car accident explaining the change of face. :rolleyes:



posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 01:21 PM
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Is it in Spies like us? I listened to the song Paul McCartney wrote and had nothing about that.

Paul McCartney produced a band called Bonzo Dog Dah Band and that picture with the blonde guy with the glasses is in that band.

en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 01:29 PM
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After looking at all the pictures in this thread, I find the current Paul and teen Paul look more similar than the early Beatles Paul and the late 60's to late 70's versions. The current Paul and the younger Paul both have long faces. Beatles Paul has a round face and the later incarnations all vary.

If the pre Beatles Paul pics match the aged man now, but not the early Beatles and Wings Paul, are the young pic in circulation not the real Paul or is it the real Paul and the early Beatles version an impostor, a face for the fans and the real Paul wanted his glory and threw the fakes out?



posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 01:56 PM
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I am still looking for that song that was about the beatles and their clues to if paul is dead.
By now don't you think someone would say one way or another if it is a hoax or not?



posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 02:01 PM
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Originally posted by Getsmart

Since you think it is all bunk, then you probably think that John Lennon was daft for seeking out those who did in Paul? He would know and it seems he was getting awful close. He was justifiably suspicious of dubious body guards toting guns around him to do without, many have lost their lives at their hands. But he was likely less suspicious embedded Dakota staff. It is interesting how Yoko was not near him and didn't see it happen.



... Elliot Mintz, friend of Sal Mineo ,was instrumental in exposing "Project Walrus" as a conspiracy regarding Lennon. He had been Lennon’s chum too and publicist since 1971 Mintz recalls that some of Yoko body guards were at the time New York Police officers.. It is very difficult for a private citizen to legally possess a weapon in New York. The people who can are off duty officers. It is thus, a common celebrity arrangement. There were many files with missing contents at Yoko's apt. after Lennon was killed. Listening devices were planted at the Dakota and once swept clean would reappear. There had been numerous attempts on Yoko's life. One man was arrested at airport who had made a call that he was coming to finish the job and kill Yoko and Sean. There were also calls made to tell her body guards were going to kill her. Sean Lennon said, "I grew up afraid my mother and I were going to be killed"...

COVERT WAR ON ROCK BY ALEX CONSTANTINE SUMMARY
www.articlesbase.com...



Equally interesting was the cover up and inexistent inquiry of such an ordinary event. Skeptics may note that this unsolved murder, at least to any critically minded individual, casts into perspective who stood to benefit and who stood to lose from John Lennon's investigation into Paul's demise:

Yeah, when Mark David Chapman pled not guilty by reason of insanity, it kept a lot of evidence from being presented at court. I need to re-read Bresler's book, but this is from a reader's comment on it:


... Since Chapman confessed and refused the plea of his lawyer to plead insane, there was no trial, hence no investigation...

www.amazon.com...=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1252349654&sr=8-1



Yoko is considered by many, some quite close, as an operative "handler" and we can refer to the Yellow Submarine photo hand signs to understand that Illuminati satanists embedded in the UK and US secret service were behind Paul's violent release from this world.





posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 02:02 PM
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Originally posted by Getsmart

Since you think it is all bunk, then you probably think that John Lennon was daft for seeking out those who did in Paul?


So is going off topic.

If you actually read the thread you will see I have contributed many many times and have been subject to snide remarks and insults as a result.

That's an awful lot of random claims you've made.
Any chance of posting the supporting evidence which back up these claims or are you going to join Faulcon in ignoring anyone who posts any difficult questions and continue to live in your own little bubble talking to yourself and posting nonsensical links over and over again?
You would think if they wanted to silence this vartan lady they'd have just killed her, wouldn't that be much simpler?



posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 02:03 PM
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Originally posted by Getsmart

Turning an interesting thread into a flame war is a fairly lame way to try to get a thread you don't agree with closed.

This is, basically, info-warfare being waged on the internet. Some of us are trying to reveal some information that some other people would rather keep hidden. I don't take it personally. They're just doing their jobs. JMO.



posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 02:03 PM
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This has theory has been proven to be fake for years? I thought the Beatles left clues and stuff just to mess with people!



posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 02:08 PM
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Originally posted by Ethera
If the pre Beatles Paul pics match the aged man now, but not the early Beatles and Wings Paul, are the young pic in circulation not the real Paul or is it the real Paul and the early Beatles version an impostor, a face for the fans and the real Paul wanted his glory and threw the fakes out?

Some pics of young Paul have been tampered w/ to give him a long face. It's also possible that pics of young Faul have been introduced into the mix to confuse the situation.

As far as older Faul looking more like Paul than he did in the early stages, that may be b/c of more plastic surgeries, or his "Paul disguise" improved.



posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 02:10 PM
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Originally posted by dreamseeker
I am still looking for that song that was about the beatles and their clues to if paul is dead.
By now don't you think someone would say one way or another if it is a hoax or not?


I think that was just a poem about PID by Apollo C. Vermouth, but I can't be 100% sure.

"They" have tried to say PID is a "hoax" many times, but the problem is there is a ton of evidence to support it.



posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 02:14 PM
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Originally posted by faulconandsnowjob

This is, basically, info-warfare being waged on the internet. Some of us are trying to reveal some information that some other people would rather keep hidden. I don't take it personally. They're just doing their jobs. JMO.



''Info-warfare! "


Not really. No one has stopped you from posting your photoshopped and cleverly cropped images over and over and over again. I don't see anyone attacking the other 'pid' sites you copy and paste material from.
There are numerous threads on ATS discussing far more potent matters than the alleged death of a member of a pop group.
A quick glance through the recent posts tab will illustrate this.

So don't let anyone be fooled by Faulcon's poor me routine.

No one has stopped this thread going from a stagnant forty pages or so (when I looked in) to well over a hundred.

No one has stopped you attracting your fellow 'pid' followers from other threads like the Icke forum to contribute and star your posts.

In fact you are the one putting people (like me) on ignore so you don't have
to deal with the tough questions which blow this sorry excuse for a conspiracy theory out of the water or read the posts which debunk and explain the false claims you continually make.


Originally posted by faulconandsnowjob
"They" have tried to say PID is a "hoax" many times, but the problem is there is a ton of evidence to support it.


Actually there is none.
Unfortunately Faulcon's interpretation of 'evidence' is far removed from what might actually be presented in a court of law.

[edit on 7-9-2009 by pmexplorer]



posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 02:54 PM
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Info warfare on information surrounding Paul Mcartney? Classic. It amazes me how much time I've spent posting on this subject, and it's a complete waste because of the delusional fellow who won't even consider the fact or truth its the same person.

For any reasonable explanation or convincing argument that Paul is Faul and Faul is Paul, or Paul is Paul the answers are:

Government cover-up
Murder
CIA
FBI
MI6
KGB
Stand in
Ignore
Everyone is in on it.
EVERYONE.

As opposed to looking attruly comparable photos, and understanding nobody actually cares if they actually DID replace him. What's their reason??? NO REASON. Well maybe money, but the facts don't add up so you end up churning this fantasy land around in your head and spewing it.



posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 03:24 PM
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Originally posted by brocket99
Info warfare on information surrounding Paul Mcartney? Classic. It amazes me how much time I've spent posting on this subject, and it's a complete waste because of the delusional fellow who won't even consider the fact or truth its the same person.




FYI, Faulcon is a female. Just in case you end up on ignore aswell.



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