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Originally posted by Open_Minded Skeptic
OK, I'll take a shot at defining "Anti-American":
"Anti-American" is promoting or supporting policies that:
- suppress free expression.
- suppress expression of disagreement with the implementors of the government.
- label such dissentors as 'traitors', 'un-patriotic' or 'Anti-American'
- suppress peaceful demonstration
- incite violence
- weaken the prohibition against a government favored religion
- confiscate legally owned firearms from private citizens
- hold people in indefinite detention without a public trial or charges
- make it impossible to verify who actually wins an election
Originally posted by Jaryn
Originally posted by nightwing
But what about indirect attacks, or the subtle ones. They always start with "We support the
troops BUT we are against the war." Or my personal favorite, "I love my country BUT..."
I will not argue that there is not anti-american sentiment on this board; however, stating that I am anti-american does tick me off!
I served 20 years in the military for my country, I was in Kuwait for Desert Storm and am damn proud of it and of my country. With that said, I do support the troops but am against the 'war'.
I will gladly tell anyone that really is anti-american to get the hell out if they dislike it so much! But, to question the government and to speak out about what you feel is wrong in the US is just about the most pro-american, patriotic thing you can possibly do. If you can't grasp that concept, perhaps you should move to some other country (China?) where disagreeing with the authorities is truly 'discouraged' and you can have any free thinkers 'removed'. This seems to match your way of thinking much better than the American way does.
Edited for grammar.
[edit on 27-9-2005 by Jaryn]
Originally posted by Jaryn
I will gladly tell anyone that really is anti-american to get the hell out if they dislike it so much! But, to question the government and to speak out about what you feel is wrong in the US is just about the most pro-american, patriotic thing you can possibly do.
It saddens me to think of what we have become............
Originally posted by Lady of the Lake
What an interesting discussion.
I sense there is a strong anti-America feeling emerging not just here but across the world. Some is as a result of America's activities in global events and in attacking those we can not meet their might in return.
Some of the anti-America feeling is a result of personal disappointment. We look to the strong of the world, both countries and people to do the 'right thing' and when they (countries and people) respond in a manner that disappoints usually the our first response is to become critical and to stop supporting. America has been viewed for many years as the defender and saviour of the less fortunate. Now America attacks the little guy and stands by and watches other little guys suffer - not surprising that many then turn on America.
Intelligent people know that many Americans are also not happy with what is happening in their country. Likewise there are many people who are not happy with what is happening in my country. Our world is changing and the values of our world along with it.
Originally posted by Jaryn
I will gladly tell anyone that really is anti-american to get the hell out if they dislike it so much! But, to question the government and to speak out about what you feel is wrong in the US is just about the most pro-american, patriotic thing you can possibly do.
Right on and the moment we can no longer do this, we have lost. Millions have died for the freedom we still enjoy albeit being eroded.
[edit on 29/9/2005 by Lady of the Lake]
Originally posted by Sri Oracle
My ANTI America Sentiment.
My neighbors on welfare that have multiple cars with 22" rims and a thumping systems that belch blue smoke because they are so mal tuned.
....(snip)......
Everyone in this country seems to be addicted to something. Sugar, TV, Drugs, Drinking, Fast food, Cigarettes, Video Games...
Originally posted by Sri Oracle
My ANTI America Sentiment....
Originally posted by American Mad Man
Originally posted by Sri Oracle
My ANTI America Sentiment....
Wow...
I guess if you hate so many aspects of US culture you should MOVE TO ANOTHER COUNTRY.
Try living in Africa with a tribe or something. It will make us BOTH happy. You won't ever see another SUV or hot teen pop-star on TV again. I'll be just that much more happy that one more self loathing American has left.
Can I pack your bags?
Originally posted by American Mad Man
I guess if you hate so many aspects of US culture you should MOVE TO ANOTHER COUNTRY.
Try living in Africa with a tribe or something. It will make us BOTH happy.
You won't ever see another SUV or hot teen pop-star on TV again.
I'll be just that much more happy that one more self loathing American has left.
Can I pack your bags?
Originally posted by American Mad Man
I'll be just that much more happy that one more self loathing American has left. Can I pack your bags?
Originally posted by Jaryn
Originally posted by nightwing
But what about indirect attacks, or the subtle ones. They always start with "We support the
troops BUT we are against the war." Or my personal favorite, "I love my country BUT..."
I will not argue that there is not anti-american sentiment on this board; however, stating that I am anti-american does tick me off!
I served 20 years in the military for my country, I was in Kuwait for Desert Storm and am damn proud of it and of my country. With that said, I do support the troops but am against the 'war'.
I will gladly tell anyone that really is anti-american to get the hell out if they dislike it so much! But, to question the government and to speak out about what you feel is wrong in the US is just about the most pro-american, patriotic thing you can possibly do. If you can't grasp that concept, perhaps you should move to some other country (China?) where disagreeing with the authorities is truly 'discouraged' and you can have any free thinkers 'removed'. This seems to match your way of thinking much better than the American way does.
Edited for grammar.
[edit on 27-9-2005 by Jaryn]