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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Even billybob's post isn't really attacking America so much as the leadership.
Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Even billybob's post isn't really attacking America so much as the leadership.
The fact is that what party is in power doesn't alter the anti-Americanism that exists over time. Only the rhetoric changes. Most people on this board can't remember when Reagan was President, much less Lyndon Johnson, but the anti-American component didn't miss a beat when the Republican Nixon succeeded the Democrat Johnson in the White House. The administration is just a convenient target.
[edit on 2005/9/19 by GradyPhilpott]
Originally posted by marg6043'Our country is in trouble, economically, financially and politically,'
Originally posted by marg6043
Just give up and admit that our country under the present administration is in big trouble.
Originally posted by billybob
grady, define anti-americanism.
Originally posted by thelibra
I think three main factors are responsible for the perception of growing anti-American sentiments:
- Gross Ignorance - Not being aware of all the facts, or being innundated by the media, or one's peers, is probably the largest cause I can find for any true anti-American sentiments.
Poor Leadership - Let's face it, the people who love Bush now would still love him if he grew a tiny moustache, dawned a swastika, and urinated on kittens he'd slain with the jawbone of the Pope.
The Harrison Bergeron Factor - The evaporation of the middle class is rarifying people into rich and poor. It has been my personal experience over the last two years that one can go from abject poverty to middle-class wealth in a very short amount of time, with a simply by saving, budgeting, paying down debt, and investing in a house...all with under $30k per year.
However, most people do not have the knowledge or discipline to do this, nor do they have the initiative to learn. The rich, on the other hand, have already made this a part of their life, and pass it on to their kids if they are even remotely intelligent. Thus, poor beget poor, and rich beget rich.
A self-fulfilling cycle, in today's culture of Professional Victims, is seen as being kept down by "the man". The reality is, the Man keeps himself up, has an interest in others being up as well, and really couldn't give two hoots about the poor. The poor, likewise, keep themselves down, have an active interest in others being down (miserly loves company), and resent the rich for having something they do not. In America, this translates to nearly everything from Democrats vs. Republicans, to victims of hurricane Katrina, to tax breaks, to the widespread hatred of Bill Gates and other successful entrepreneurs. Once, success was seen as a virtue. In today's America, mediocrity is the virtue. Schools are removing points from games, so that the loser's don't get their feelings hurt. Likewise, grades are being removed for the same reason. Political Correctness makes every limiting condition...
Originally posted by dr_strangecraft
I veiw this site as kind of a "fringe" forum. I think there are a lot of netizens who cruise through here, look around for half an hour, and move on. I also try to intuit the average age of the posters here. I think the site is heavily skewed in the direction of junior in high school through sophomore in college.
The rest of us are just the fruits of arrested development and/or mispent youth.
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