Small Gold Flat Chips Extracted From Throat - Need Help

Hey NeedHelp,

Just a couple of questions that you can ask your girlfriend...please.

1. Has she ever produced one of these gold objects in front of someone before?

Reason for question is that she produced one of these shortly after having discussions with you about it. Am I correct in this? If so, it just strikes me odd that she would be able to produce one of these almost "on demand" after you two talked about it. I'm just trying to go based on what you have indicated in your story.


2. Has this happened before when brushing her teeth? What circumstances caused her to produce one of these before.

3. Have you purchased identical toothbrushes and taken apart to see if they may contain metal similar to what you found?

Please, I am not trying to debunk this. I'm just curious.


Also, what happened to all of my ATS points??!?!?!?!?!?!??!

[edit on 29-8-2005 by Freenrgy2]

Originally posted by saint4God
Thanks for posting and hope you can find the help you need.

After reading through all pages, there were a few things that stuck out in my mind. What I think was particulary observant was the following:

1. Expells a gold - flat - chip
2. Not just one but quite a few
3. Both people had a sample sent to labs (now again for a second time)
4. They were both brushing their teeth when it happened
5. Both had/have health complications

Hal had a lot of great analysis too, props for that.

Throughout the whole thread I was wondering if anyone had the same hypothesis as I did, especially in reference to points 4 & 5. Do you think that 4 occurred because of a chemical reaction between the sodium phosphates and other reactive compounds in the toothpaste? That would give me reason to cough it up.

I'LL ANSWER IN CAPS. GOOD POINT! PERHAPS THE TOOTHPASTE IS CAUSING AN REACTION OR SOMETHING. DUNNO. AND I DID CHECK OUT OUR TOOTHBRUSHES - NO CHIPS...

Point 5 - Do you think this is caused by an allergic reaction to the metal?

WELL SHE DOES HAVE AN ALLERGICE REACTION TO FAKE JEWELRY. SO IF THESE SOMEHOW MAKE THEMSELVES INTO HER NOSE, THAT WOULD TOTALLY EXPLAIN WHY SHE HAS NASAL INFECTIONS FROM TIME TO TIME. AFTER SHE EXTRACTED THE LAST ONE IN 2002 SHORTLY AFTER SHE MOVED WITH ME TO THE STATES AND HAD A REALLY BAD NASAL INFECTION. ANOTHER GOOD POINT YOU MADE.

Also, was the corrosion immediately apparent? NO, IT WAS NICE AND SHINY FOR THE FIRST, I WOULD SAY WEEK, AFTER SHE GOT IT OUT OF HER MOUTH AND GAVE IT TO ME. THEN AFTER TAKING PICTURES OF IT, HANDLING IT, IT STARTED TO LOOK DIRTY, LIKE IT WAS TARNISHING. AND IT STILL LOOKS THAT WAY. If so, that could have been the reason for the expulsion. If it's only starting to corrode in the air, then we know it's an oxidizing metal. Maybe Hal can help me out here speculating on that.
WELL, AIR, THE OIL AND DIRT FROM MY FINGERS.

My summary is that it is not extraterrestrial for 2 reasons:
1.) It has a lot of similar structure, color, probably metal compounds found here on earth in either metalwork or electronics.
2.) As mentioned by a previous poster, it must have been poorly done for a superior race that has experience with implantation.

I AGREE, BUT WITH EVERYTHING THAT IS INVOLVED, IT'S JUST TOO WEIRD FOR ME TO BELIEVE THAT IT'S TERRESTRIAL. SO, I'M GOING TO HOUND GEVAERD AND LUCIANO TO SEE EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHAT THEY THINK IT IS. WE'RE LEAVING IN ONE HOUR TO GO DROP IT OFF.

My conclusions so far are one of two:
1.) Metal that most people swallow frequently but are not allergic to, but some people are. Gets lodged or buried from pointed edges in esophagus until deteriorated or expelled. BUT WHY IS THIS CHIP #8 FOR HER? AND APPARENTLY IT'S HAPPENING TO OTHERS? MY ONLY TERRESTRIAL GUESS IS A FOOD PROCESSING FLAW. I DIDN'T CREATE THIS PIECE IN A METAL SHOP AND NEITHER DID SHE. NOR DID I RIP THIS OFF AN ELECTRONIC COMPONENT. SO, THAT LEAVES SOME OTHER SOURCE. I DON'T KNOW.
2.) Tagging device. Locator, monitor, transmitter of some sort. For what purpose I do not know.

I enjoyed reading about what Sims had to say, that he thanked God that it was out. The lesson I got from this is "alien or not, God wins" which is comforting I think.

SIMS SAID WHAT? DO YOU MEAN BILL BEAN?

I think only you know what it is or is not, having it there and experienced what you have, just tossing out questions and possibilities to help.

My prayers are with you both and please do not worry. "Who of you by worrying can add a single hour to his life?" (Matthew 6:27)

Pray, train, study,
God bless.

[edit on 29-8-2005 by saint4God]

Originally posted by Need Help
I'LL ANSWER IN CAPS. GOOD POINT! PERHAPS THE TOOTHPASTE IS CAUSING AN REACTION OR SOMETHING. DUNNO. AND I DID CHECK OUT OUR TOOTHBRUSHES - NO CHIPS...

If anyone had extras, it's be interesting to brush it with toothpaste. I believe toothpaste causes a bubbling kind of oxidation and perhaps the same tarnishing you're starting to physically see....or, could be the metal alters the toothpaste compound to cause throat irritation. I think this is a good track to go on.

Originally posted by Need Help
WELL SHE DOES HAVE AN ALLERGICE REACTION TO FAKE JEWELRY.

Bingo! The chip is not real gold. In fact, fake jewelry has a lot of other elements that causes allergies like zinc, nickel and copper. Some are poisonous for the body which can cause the sicknesses described in earlier pages. The one that's in the forefront for me is copper.


Brass = Cu3Zn2 (copper + zinc)
Physical Properties of Brass
Color: Yellow
Diaphaniety: Opaque
Luster: Metallic
www.webmineral.com...

Originally posted by Need Help
SO IF THESE SOMEHOW MAKE THEMSELVES INTO HER NOSE, THAT WOULD TOTALLY EXPLAIN WHY SHE HAS NASAL INFECTIONS FROM TIME TO TIME. AFTER SHE EXTRACTED THE LAST ONE IN 2002 SHORTLY AFTER SHE MOVED WITH ME TO THE STATES AND HAD A REALLY BAD NASAL INFECTION. ANOTHER GOOD POINT YOU MADE.

Thanks! Another good track to pursue I think.

Originally posted by Need Help
NO, IT WAS NICE AND SHINY FOR THE FIRST, I WOULD SAY WEEK, AFTER SHE GOT IT OUT OF HER MOUTH AND GAVE IT TO ME. THEN AFTER TAKING PICTURES OF IT, HANDLING IT, IT STARTED TO LOOK DIRTY, LIKE IT WAS TARNISHING. AND IT STILL LOOKS THAT WAY.
WELL, AIR, THE OIL AND DIRT FROM MY FINGERS.

Oh yeah, that too. Forgot about dirt and oil .

Originally posted by Need Help
I AGREE, BUT WITH EVERYTHING THAT IS INVOLVED, IT'S JUST TOO WEIRD FOR ME TO BELIEVE THAT IT'S TERRESTRIAL. SO, I'M GOING TO HOUND GEVAERD AND LUCIANO TO SEE EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHAT THEY THINK IT IS. WE'RE LEAVING IN ONE HOUR TO GO DROP IT OFF.

Not ruling it out. just wondering why ET's wouldn't use silicone coated stuff or something that's a non-irritant.

Originally posted by Need Help
BUT WHY IS THIS CHIP #8 FOR HER? AND APPARENTLY IT'S HAPPENING TO OTHERS?

No clue as of yet.

Originally posted by Need Help
MY ONLY TERRESTRIAL GUESS IS A FOOD PROCESSING FLAW. I DIDN'T CREATE THIS PIECE IN A METAL SHOP AND NEITHER DID SHE. NOR DID I RIP THIS OFF AN ELECTRONIC COMPONENT. SO, THAT LEAVES SOME OTHER SOURCE. I DON'T KNOW.

A mass-produced food processing flaw over a long period of time even if that's the case. I don't see how it could be home-made, isolated or coincidental.

Originally posted by Need Help
SIMS SAID WHAT? DO YOU MEAN BILL BEAN?

Er...yeah, the part about thanking God it was out. Reading so many pages prolly had my eyes going buggy.

Glad I could be of some help and am interested in hearing about more information you find out.

[edit on 29-8-2005 by saint4God]

Originally posted by Freenrgy2
Hey NeedHelp,

Just a couple of questions that you can ask your girlfriend...please.

1. Has she ever produced one of these gold objects in front of someone before?

CAPS: BOTH HER AND HER SISTER HAVE EACH EXTRACTED ABOUT 7-10 OF THESE. ABOUT ACTUALLY GETTING THEM OUT OF THEIR MOUTHS IN FRONT OF OTHER PEOPLE? NOT SURE, SHE'S SLEEPING RIGHT NOW AND JUST GOT DONE WORKING THE ENTIRE WEEKEND. SO I'M NOT GOING TO BOTHER HER. BUT I WAS ON THE COUCH WHEN I HEARD HER COUGHING IN THE BATHROOM WHILE SHE WAS BRUSHING HER TEETH THAT DAY BEFORE SHE HANDED IT TO ME. SHE FELT IT IN THE BACK OF HER THROAT, HACKED, THEN IT FELL TO THE LEFT SIDE OF HER MOUTH NEXT TO HER TEETH, IN HER CHEEK AND THEN SHE REACHED IN WITH HER FINGER AND GRABBED IT.

Reason for question is that she produced one of these shortly after having discussions with you about it. Am I correct in this? If so, it just strikes me odd that she would be able to produce one of these almost "on demand" after you two talked about it. I'm just trying to go based on what you have indicated in your story.

I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU'RE ASKING THIS QUESTION. THERE'S NO WAY FOR ME TO PROVE HER PERSONALITY TO YOU . THAT SHE JUST WOULDN'T STEAL THIS OBJECT FROM SOMEWHERE AND MAKE THIS ENTIRE STORY UP. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? IF YOU KNEW HER GRUELING SCHEDULE AND HOW CRAZY-BUSY HER CAREER IS RIGHT NOW AND KNEW HER CALM AND HONEST PERSONALITY YOU WOULD THROW THE IDEA OUT IN A HEARTBEAT THAT SHE WAS MAKING IT UP. BUT LIKE I SAID, THERE'S NO WAY TO PROVE THAT TO YOU. SHE IS ONE OF THE NICEST, MOST HONEST, AND GENTLEST PEOPLE I HAVE EVER KNOWN. THERE'S NOT ONE DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT SHE IS LYING. OR HER SISTER. OR HER MOM AND DAD. NO WAY. MY BS METER IS FINELY TUNED. I WOULD HAVE PICKED IT UP IF SHE WAS LYING. NOT ONLY THAT BUT I WOULD MOVE BACK TO THE STATES IN A HEARTBEAT. I JUST WOULDN'T INVOLVE MYSELF WITH SOMEONE LIKE THAT.


2. Has this happened before when brushing her teeth? What circumstances caused her to produce one of these before.

I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T THINK I HAVE ASKED HER THIS QUESTION. I'LL HAVE TO ASK HER AND THEN I WILL POST HER RESPONSE.

3. Have you purchased identical toothbrushes and taken apart to see if they may contain metal similar to what you found?

YES, NO CHIPS AT ALL.

Please, I am not trying to debunk this. I'm just curious.

NO, I HAVE ALREADY THOUGHT OF THESE VERY SAME QUESTIONS MYSELF. I UNDERSTAND YOUR CURIOSITY TOTALLY AND RESPECT YOUR PROBING IN A CIVILIZED AND INTELLIGENT MANNER.


Also, what happened to all of my ATS points??!?!?!?!?!?!??! LOL I TRIED TO PUT THIS BEAUTIFUL PICTURE OF THE CROSS OF JESUS FOR MY BACKGROUND PICTURE BECAUSE IT'S JUST BEAUTIFUL AND SPENT APPARENTLY A WHOLE BUNCH OF POINTS AND I CAN'T PUT THE PICTURE UP. SNIF.

THIS PICTURE.


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[edit on 29-8-2005 by Freenrgy2]

Originally posted by saint4God

Originally posted by Need Help
I'LL ANSWER IN CAPS. GOOD POINT! PERHAPS THE TOOTHPASTE IS CAUSING AN REACTION OR SOMETHING. DUNNO. AND I DID CHECK OUT OUR TOOTHBRUSHES - NO CHIPS...

If anyone had extras, it's be interesting to brush it with toothpaste. I believe toothpaste causes a bubbling kind of oxidation and perhaps the same tarnishing you're starting to physically see....or, could be the metal alters the toothpaste compound to cause throat irritation. I think this is a good track to go on.

Originally posted by Need Help
WELL SHE DOES HAVE AN ALLERGICE REACTION TO FAKE JEWELRY.

Bingo! The chip is not real gold. In fact, fake jewelry has a lot of other elements that causes allergies like zinc, nickel and copper. Some are poisonous for the body which can cause the sicknesses described in earlier pages. The one that's in the forefront for me is copper.


Brass = Cu3Zn2 (copper + zinc)
Physical Properties of Brass
Color: Yellow
Diaphaniety: Opaque
Luster: Metallic
www.webmineral.com...

Originally posted by Need Help
SO IF THESE SOMEHOW MAKE THEMSELVES INTO HER NOSE, THAT WOULD TOTALLY EXPLAIN WHY SHE HAS NASAL INFECTIONS FROM TIME TO TIME. AFTER SHE EXTRACTED THE LAST ONE IN 2002 SHORTLY AFTER SHE MOVED WITH ME TO THE STATES AND HAD A REALLY BAD NASAL INFECTION. ANOTHER GOOD POINT YOU MADE.

Thanks! Another good track to pursue I think.

Originally posted by Need Help
NO, IT WAS NICE AND SHINY FOR THE FIRST, I WOULD SAY WEEK, AFTER SHE GOT IT OUT OF HER MOUTH AND GAVE IT TO ME. THEN AFTER TAKING PICTURES OF IT, HANDLING IT, IT STARTED TO LOOK DIRTY, LIKE IT WAS TARNISHING. AND IT STILL LOOKS THAT WAY.
WELL, AIR, THE OIL AND DIRT FROM MY FINGERS.

Oh yeah, that too. Forgot about dirt and oil

.

Originally posted by Need Help
I AGREE, BUT WITH EVERYTHING THAT IS INVOLVED, IT'S JUST TOO WEIRD FOR ME TO BELIEVE THAT IT'S TERRESTRIAL. SO, I'M GOING TO HOUND GEVAERD AND LUCIANO TO SEE EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHAT THEY THINK IT IS. WE'RE LEAVING IN ONE HOUR TO GO DROP IT OFF.

Not ruling it out. just wondering why ET's wouldn't use silicone coated stuff or something that's a non-irritant.

Originally posted by Need Help
BUT WHY IS THIS CHIP #8 FOR HER? AND APPARENTLY IT'S HAPPENING TO OTHERS?

No clue as of yet.

Originally posted by Need Help
MY ONLY TERRESTRIAL GUESS IS A FOOD PROCESSING FLAW. I DIDN'T CREATE THIS PIECE IN A METAL SHOP AND NEITHER DID SHE. NOR DID I RIP THIS OFF AN ELECTRONIC COMPONENT. SO, THAT LEAVES SOME OTHER SOURCE. I DON'T KNOW.

A mass-produced food processing flaw over a long period of time even if that's the case. I don't see how it could be home-made, isolated or coincidental.

Originally posted by Need Help
SIMS SAID WHAT? DO YOU MEAN BILL BEAN?

Er...yeah, the part about thanking God it was out. Reading so many pages prolly had my eyes going buggy.

Glad I could be of some help and am interested in hearing about more information you find out.

[edit on 29-8-2005 by saint4God]

Well, let's not assume anything just yet. Let's wait to see what Gevaerd says its composition is. Ahh! We're off now!

So let me get this straight.

Ever since your girlfriend was a young girl, she used to cough up these chips. Her mother seems to know something about it, and may have had implanted chips herself.

Due to the very long time frame, I doubt this object can be a food manufacturing flaw.. or any other product. I think the company would know already, and I doubt any major food company's production methods are the same so many years later. So that rules food and products out.

Someone suggested that it is being made by her own body. I personally think this statement is rediculous, there is no function in the body that causes things like this. The object also seems to be machined and designed.

To me, this leaves the source either extra-terrestrial, or governmental. The purposes would be tracking, or biomonitoring. Probably part of the trial phase of a top secret project. But again, due to the long time frame, if these things were terrestrial/governmental they would of varied in appearance. I doubt a governmental tracking device would use the same design over decades. With technology, comes improvements.

Also, since when did the government have the capability to implant these chips? Your girlfriend hasn't ever claimed to be abducted (am i right?) and any surgical implantation would have caused soreness.. or cuts.

Unfortunately we are left with the uncomforting logic, that the source of these implants are extra-terrestrial. But it confuses me why aliens would be using a copper-based object, to which the girl obviously has an allergy.

If anyone has any thoughts to contradict my conclusion, please post. It would be nice to have some evidence for the thing being terrestrial/governmental.

Steve

P.S. Need Help I think you have handled this situation pretty well, and I hope for you and us, that Gevaerd can shed some light on this.

Is it possible that those involved in the implants didnt know of copper allergic reactions? Becuase if those responsible are from another planet, then such things may not have been in the thought process.

Also, perhaps the chips were meant to be expelled after a set amount of time, say after they gathered X amount of information, or something like that?

Originally posted by Carpenter
Is it possible that those involved in the implants didnt know of copper allergic reactions? Becuase if those responsible are from another planet, then such things may not have been in the thought process.

Also, perhaps the chips were meant to be expelled after a set amount of time, say after they gathered X amount of information, or something like that?

Good thinking, that makes sense to me. I wonder if the chips transmit information? They must do.. unless they are supposed to be collected.

Anyway I found a site that implied Neodymium magnets can neutralize an implant, check it out..

Chips

Glad to help..

So then, magnets will remove these "Tracking Devices"? No offense, but this sounds kinda like wrapping your closet in tin foil and putting coat hangers on the cieling will keep the CIA from watching you.

Oh my God it's over! Well sord of! It's out of our house!

We had the meeting. Dr Luciano is in a VERY prestigious medical building. He seemed very professional, polite, normal, intelligent, investigative, and non-assuming. He is very good friends and works along side Gevaerd and publishes work in Gevaerd's magazine of which he showed us numerous articles he's published. Gevaerd was not there tonight.

We walked in and we were kind of nervous not knowing what to expect and smiled, shook his hand and ehehe immediately set the chip down on his desk and he laughed and said, "Sit down first! Relax".

We conversed nicely where he immediately put the chip on a glass slide and secured it in place with tape and placed it under a microscope that is situated on his desk. What a NICE office he has too. So he made some comments about the appearance of the chip (we finally saw it at a microscopic magnitude), he pointed out some things, then began to tell us exactly what he is going to do with it. I cannot answer any questions about what it looked like under the microscope but this: It looked dark, like black, and a little pourous. Like it had tiny holes in it. That's it...

Also he had some super mega magnets stuck on his wall which he layed on top of the chip and just like I said, 0 attraction.

First he is going to give it to an orthodontist in the same building to make sure it is not dental work. Then he is going to do some serious analysis on it by breaking it into pieces and analyzing the heck out of it. He is also publishing this in Gevaerd's magazine to see if anyone will reconize it.

Very nice man. He probed my friend with a few questions and they conversed in doctor lingo. And I communicated our concerns the best I could in Portuguese.

1. We wish to remain anonymous and don't want to make money off this. I said no names published please and he laughed and assured me that everything was going to be okay.

2. I asked him if they were going to inform us what happens with the analysis of this object and he laughed again like I was stressed and said that he would definitely keep us informed. I do believe him. He's already sent me three emails tonight about cases we talked about in this office.

Please do NOT write to Gevaerd. Please just follow the results on his website and if you need help with Portuguese I will help you. His website is: www.ufo.com.br...

And anyway, I fully intend on posting the links to the findings here.

Dr. Luciano is going to take microscopic photos of it and post it to the website very soon which I will post the link here for you to see.


I'm pleased. I'm happy. I feel this is in good hands.

[edit on 29-8-2005 by Need Help]

[edit on 29-8-2005 by Need Help]

Need Help ,

I'm very happy that this route is working out for you just the way I was sure it would if you let A. J. Gevaerd and his colleagues handle it.

I think its really cool to see how these things work from the inside out too.

Thanks for sharing all of that with us.

Originally posted by SteveR
So let me get this straight.

Ever since your girlfriend was a young girl, she used to cough up these chips. Her mother seems to know something about it, and may have had implanted chips herself.

CAPS: NOT THAT WE'RE AWARE OF. HER MOM HASN'T HAD THIS HAPPEN TO HER. ME NEITHER. BUT YOU KNOW, THEY ARE SO DARN SMALL THAT WHEN YOU'RE BRUSHING YOUR TEETH; YOU KNOW WHEN YOU COUGH AND SPIT THE REMAINS OF THE TOOTHPASTE FROM YOUR MOUTH IT COULD EASILY JUST GO RIGHT DOWN THE DRAIN WITHOUT ANYONE SEEING. ?

Due to the very long time frame, I doubt this object can be a food manufacturing flaw.. or any other product. (MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY - A FOOD COMPANY WOULD LONG KNOW ABOUT THIS BY NOW AND FIX IT QUICK FOR FEAR OF BEING SUED OUT OF THEIR UNDIES)I think the company would know already, and I doubt any major food company's production methods are the same so many years later. So that rules food and products out. YES

Someone suggested that it is being made by her own body. I personally think this statement is rediculous, there is no function in the body that causes things like this. The object also seems to be machined and designed. WELL I BELIEVE THAT COULD BE POSSIBLE LET'S SAY IF THE OBJECT WAS A MINISCULE FORMLESS LUMP OF METAL; SOME WEIRD BIOLOGICAL ODDITY. BUT A RECTANGULAR CHIP WITH SANDED SIDES WITH THREE GROOVES ON ONE SIDE AND A PECULIAR BACK THAT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS MADE FOR SOMETHING?

To me, this leaves the source either extra-terrestrial, or governmental. YES. AND THE SCARY THING IS THIS: IF IT'S GOVERNMENTAL, HOW CAN THEY IMPLANT BOTH HER AND HER SISTER WITHOUT THEM KNOWING? THAT LEAVES WHAT POSSIBILITY? ... I HAVE BEEN RACKING MY BRAIN ASKING THE VERY QUESTIONS YOU'RE ALL ASKING AND EVERY TERRESTRIAL PATH HAS A DEAD END. I DID NOT CREATE THIS OBJECT AND NEITHER DID "MY FRIEND", NOR HER SISTER, NOR HER PARENTS. WE'RE NOT LYING. SO HOW IS IT HAPPENING? IN GATHERING *ALL DATA; IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM TERRESTRIAL. AND THAT'S SCARY, FOR ME ANYWAY. NOW FROM ALL THIS RESEARCH IF WE ALL/SOMEONE PROVES TO ME THAT IT'S TERRESTRIAL I WILL HONESTLY BE RELIEVED BECAUSE AT *LEAST IT'S HUMAN. YES, I THINK IT WOULD BE SO NICE TO HAVE PEACEFUL AND BENEFICIAL COMMUNICATION WITH BEINGS NOT FROM EARTH, PERHAPS THEY COULD HELP US EVOLVE FASTER (TEACH US HOW TO STOP KILLING EACH OTHER), BUT CHIPS ARE JUST CHIPS. NOT ACTUAL COMMUNICATION. BUT PERHAPS THERE IS MUCH TO BE LEARNED FROM THESE 'CHIPS'.

The purposes would be tracking, or biomonitoring. Probably part of the trial phase of a top secret project. But again, due to the long time frame, if these things were terrestrial/governmental they would of varied in appearance. I doubt a governmental tracking device would use the same design over decades. With technology, comes improvements. BUT THE BRAZILIAN GOVERNMENT? CMON! EHEHE SOME BRAZILIAN POLITICIAN JUST GOT CAUGHT RUNNING THROUGH AN AIRPORT WITH 100$ THOUSAND DOLLARS IN HIS UNDERWEAR. THE PRESIDENT LULA IS PROBABLY GOING TO GET IMPEACHED FOR CORRUPTION. I DON'T THINK IT'S GOVERNMENTAL.

Also, since when did the government have the capability to implant these chips? Your girlfriend hasn't ever claimed to be abducted (am i right?) and any surgical implantation would have caused soreness.. or cuts. NOTHING. ABSOLUTELY NADA. SHE SAYS SHE HAS FELT SHE SPACES OFF LIKE LITERALL TRAVELLING IN HER MIND LEAVING THE HERE AND NOW FOR A MOMENT BUT THAT COULD JUST BE BECAUSE SHE'S "SPACY" SOMETIMES.

Unfortunately we are left with the uncomforting logic, that the source of these implants are extra-terrestrial. But it confuses me why aliens would be using a copper-based object, to which the girl obviously has an allergy.
BUT WAIT..WE DON'T KNOW IF IT'S COPPER OR NOT. IT HASN'T BEEN ANALYZED YET. BUUUUUT WE'LL FIND OUT REAL SOON THOUGH.

If anyone has any thoughts to contradict my conclusion, please post. It would be nice to have some evidence for the thing being terrestrial/governmental.

Steve

P.S. Need Help I think you have handled this situation pretty well, and I hope for you and us, that Gevaerd can shed some light on this.

THANKS ALOT. I APPRECIATE THAT. THE MORE THIS GETS OUT THERE; THE MORE WE CAN LEARN ABOUT IT...WHATEVER "IT" IS.

Wow. Sounds like an experience of a lifetime. I can't tell how excited I am about hearing about this chip. *Giddery*

Gaevard sounds like an interesting man, I'll bone up on him and some of his old cases just to have something to do until more info on the chip comes. This is going to be a major event here on ATS, I'm sure.

(P.S. My birthday celebration went without a hitch. We hooked up to some french foreign exchange students and hit the town. Couldn't have gone better.)

Originally posted by Drexon
Wow. Sounds like an experience of a lifetime. I can't tell how excited I am about hearing about this chip. *Giddery*

Gaevard sounds like an interesting man, I'll bone up on him and some of his old cases just to have something to do until more info on the chip comes.

This is going to be a major event here on ATS, I'm sure.

(P.S. My birthday celebration went without a hitch. We hooked up to some french foreign exchange students and hit the town. Couldn't have gone better.)

Dr. Luciano said tonight, "Operaçao Prato é REAL" right into our faces. (Operation Plate is REAL). And he asked us if we saw the airing of this made-for-TV simulation of what occurred. (We didn't catch it) If I can somehow snag that clip I will eheheh.

Ask Shaman for links about Gevaerd. Shaman apparently has done his homework on him. And thank you Shaman for referring Gevaerd.

17 pages? 20 days? And this chip is finally in the hands of someone knowledgeable?

Hard to believe IMO this is a doctor who has throughout her life experienced the production of these chips yet hasn't bothered to check them before.

I took a little resistor to my primary care physician and asked what she would do if I had claimed to cough it up.

She said, "Did you?"
I replied, "What if I did?"
She said, "You are going to X-ray."

I didn't go. I related this thread in vague terms of a doctor who had coughed up a similar chip.

She said, "If that doctor doesn't think more of his own health than that, I am not sure it would be prudent to allow him to work with mine."

After giving this some rathional thought and rereading some of it, I think in euphemistic terms we (the readers) have been misled.

Your friend works at a hospital and has no access to x-ray or a microscope?
And no access to anyone at that hospital who might take it seriously enough to help procure these things or those things she needs to do a serious investigation?
Do they do autopsies there?
Do they work with the police department?

I mean are you expecting me to believe nobody who works in the hospital knows anybody with a microscope?

You work with electronics and electricity and have no access to an ohmmeter?
It doesn't take a genius to use even a simple flash light to determine if this thing is electrically conductive.
What would be the pupose of not trying that and allowing a researcher to crush it?

Reverse engineering is out I think, right?

So I asked myself what would I do if something like this happened to me?

And you know what? I would go to a doctor. I would want to know there were no more. I would want to know if this thing has in some way caused my allergies to become more active. And would want something for my throat, nasal passages, ears, or whatever was affected.

But it appears your friend has not been concerned with her health or any of the patients she may have visited. More likely it appears she has been complacent throughout these 20 days. Certainly she hasn't been actively seeking a solution or she would have already delivered it into the hands of the parties who could help.

Finally tonight you offer your word that you delivered the chip. And say do not contact the Grevaard.

So we are supposed to believe everything you say for the next 17 pages and 20 days like the last 17 page, 20 days where you made the bulk of the posts offering info on what you were going to do?????

What do the kids say these days????
GAME OVAHHHHHHHH!!!!!














[edit on 30-8-2005 by garyo1954]

You are welcome.

As you have already mentioned Revista UFO www.ufo.com.br... My personal favorite for UFO information from South America.

Its full of information straight from , and about A. J. Gevaerd.

Also my Operation Prato thread.

I also consider Operation Prato to be a real event , because I had a close encounter with a Night Light just like the ones described by Hollanda.

I also have the entire Hollanda Interview traslated into english if anyone wants it U2U me.

haha maybe she was drinkin too much goldschlager

Originally posted by Sacreligion
haha maybe she was drinkin too much goldschlager

Somehow I guess you didn't bother to read all 17 pages? We've been through this... A couple of times...

Wow, here we go again.