Have I Disturbed Some One? (Revisited)

Doubledee,

Thanks for the post! I don't know about laye lines too much so any assistance in finding out where they are would be appreciated. Will be glad to post up whatever we find.

I'm assuming you mean the west door of the living room, and then the door that is on the bay on the east side - correct?

The vestibule would have run from north to south with the front door of the living room being at the north end and the south door being right at where the end of the stairs are. That vestibule separated the living room into two rooms with the east room being a parlor or "sitting room" and the west room being a music room. There would have been french doors going into each of those rooms off the vestibule. All of this information comes from the original owner's granddaughter.

Mmm. I might have thought east-west because of how the picture was drawn. Do you still have that? I thought I may have downloaded it, but I didn't. Maybe if I look at it again, I can get my thoughts better in line.

Cheers...

DD.

EDIT - Found the layout. Okay..I'm way off. Anyway, I still think that the east-west doors are odd. Bear did see track something coming from those doors though..right? Or am I just totally off base?


[edit on 19-10-2007 by DoubleDee]

This may sound silly

If you are sharing your home with spirits, it appears that these spirits are of the friendly sort.

Fork-spoon, Springers wallet....

Maybe you could write a thank you note and leave it on the counter and ask a few questions like

This is a wonderful home how long have you lived here?

Ask for a name, and also ask if your attempts to capture them on film might be offensive to them in some way.

If they can place gifts in drawers, they just might be able to write.

This might also prevent the spirits from becoming less hospitable if you know what I mean.

Right now they seem happy to coexist with your family.

Originally posted by DoubleDee

EDIT - Found the layout. Okay..I'm way off. Anyway, I still think that the east-west doors are odd. Bear did see track something coming from those doors though..right? Or am I just totally off base?


[edit on 19-10-2007 by DoubleDee]

DD,

If you can find the post about Bear's behavior it would help. There have been several things happen over the past 4-1/2 years of this thread that I'm sure I've forgotten about. I will look back through to see if I can find the event you are remembering.

Jack,

I like the idea! In fact, what I think I'll do is before I go to bed tonight I'll write the thank you note and even leave the booze, money, food as an offering as ww's granny suggested (I'm not crawling back in that bush to put it under that tree O_O ) and leave them in plain sight on the countertop. I'll also set up the voice activated tape recorder in the kitchen in case they can't write and instead want to speak the answer.

Cool idea!

I don't know why, but I'm really, really not feeling that tree. I have a lurking suspicion (feeling, intuition, whatever) that the events are all connected. A sense of guilt about things- from almost all parties. Just my gut reaction, mind you. Adult male (dutchman) is there because he's angry and guilty about what he did. There is definitely a force trying to wreck comms between you and the spirits, and I posit it's the Dutchman.

DE

This website is so screwed up and it has been ever since the re-format. I, once again for uncounted times, lost an entire u2u to DeusEx...so now I'm saying things here that I would prefer to say in private.

DE - thank you so much for posting to this thread. I believe there may be some connection between the Ann Henry lady that this fork seems to have belonged to and the "Henry" you and elderban heard on the audio in 2003. I'm really curious to see if you have more to input based on the audio.

I LOVE YOUR TOON NAME! Wish we were on the same server.

Can't say I don't adore ol' Jim. No lower jaw, no eyes, tongue down to the collar bone. well, you know where I at if you need me.

I still think there's a first-name Henry in all this. Maybe the kid's first or middle name? I know I'm referred to, considering all the firstborns of my line have the same first name. I get the feeling it's the kid, the mother's trying to talk to you, the kid is scared/curious, and the father's covering his shame. He did something awful, he knows it, he's angry and doesn't want anyone else to know, or deal with the son or mother.

DE

I have written the following note and will leave a blank piece of paper next to it:

To the Spoon Giver,

Thank you so much for giving me the beautiful spoon to complete my set! I love this home very much and have been working hard to fix it up. I hope you like what we are doing. How long have you lived here? What is your name? Can you tell me about the spoon?

Thank you for your kindness,


*

I will place the offering by this thank you note.

Val

This marathon read is well worth the effort. Since you may be entering an active period, based on the past activity, have there been any more episodes with Bear?

With the exceptions of the instances when Bear has been terrified most of what you hav related has been either neutral or beneficial. Has adding the second dog affected Bear’s reactions?

Please keep us posted.

Hi Masonic,

No, we have not noticed any "scared" behavior from Bear in quite some time. And (just going off memory) I don't believe any at all since we got Dinky. I think two things contribute to that - Bear is used to whatever, and having Dinky puts Bear in a type of Alpha male role in which you just can't let them see you sweat. lmao



[edit on 10-21-2007 by Valhall]

This thread is just too good to get lost.

The goings on at Springer and Val’s place is too on target to age off.

Originally posted by Masonic Student


This thread is just too good to get lost.

Yea, this is the thread that got me to registar here, after about a 2 hour read. Many years ago.

I remember back in the day, when Val was the one that posted all the time, and Springer had to be 'dragged' onto the computer, Oh how the times have changed.

[edit on 10/26/2007 by TKainZero]

Just wanted to share with you guys the steps I've taken on the backside to further investigate the spoon.

1. I have submitted both my pics as well as the ebay pics linked in this thread of the set identical to mine to Replacements.com which has a manufacturer/pattern identification service. Their website says it can take around 3 weeks before they get back with you. I submitted all of this to them about a week ago. I'll send a follow up if I don't hear from them in another couple of weeks.

2. I have located some one who is checking into the ability to do nondestructive microspectrometry on the fork and the spoon. They don't know if they can analyze such a big specimen so what they are looking into is whether they can perform the test on the intact utensil, or whether we would actually have to take a specimen from the utensil. The person I spoke with stated that if they can't get the whole utensil in the machine to do the testing, it most likely won't be of value to damage the utensil to get a sample because the results could vary from one area to the next and therefore a small specimen might not be indicative of the whole piece (contamination and such).

The idea of having the microspectrometry done was brought up by my dear friend who is a PhD chemist and has kept up with my ghosty stuff in RL with me. He is enamoured by the pristine nature of the spoon. He wants me to find out if it has residue of a cyanide cleaner on it. The reason being that the intricate detail on the utensils makes it near impossible to clean the build up down in the crevices with just a paste cleaner. In order to get the cracks as clean as they are on the spoon (they are entirely devoid of any buildup - it really does look brand spanking new) you would have to use a cyanide-based liquid cleaner.

Now finding the cyanide cleaner won't tell us all that much other than it could give us a possible explanation of what has kept the spoon clean, but at least we'd have that information and my chemist-friend would get his data. The more interesting information would be the comparative data between the spoon and the fork, I would think.

Anyway, I will share any information I get on either of these fronts as soon as I get it.

[edit on 10-27-2007 by Valhall]

Just wanted to record what just happened. There's probably a normal explanation, but I tend to assume that and not get things recorded. I just got a phone call and when i answered it it was extremely loud white noise (NOT FAX machine). It continued for several seconds and then call disconnected. I dialed *69 and the automated recording stated dial back was unavailable due to the number being out of our servicing area. I'm not sure what that means because if some one calls here from other parts of the country (New York, Michigan, California, etc.) dial back is available. And if it is a telemarketer with a block on their number the automated message on *69 is not the same - it doesn't say "due to the number being out of our servicing area".

Anyway, thought I'd get that recorded. Maybe some one knows what can cause that.

Originally posted by Valhall
I don't know about laye lines too much

Neither do I, but I've been looking into them for the past 6 months a bit. I have my 'rods' and am trying to get used to them.

I am now convinced that ley lines DO exist and that they DO have impact on spirit activities. (as well as our own!)

BTW - the fictional series by Kim Harrison, that starts with the book 'Dead Witch Walking', gets into ley lines. Valhall - I think you'd like it. Pick up a copy of the book. It's fiction, but it'll wet your tastebuds for more ley line info.

Well, we just got another call where no one was on the line. No white noise this time though...just total silence. I stayed on until it clicked and then the automated message came on to hang up. This time when I dialed *69 the automated message said the number was private and could not be dialed back.

I potentially have something from the webcam from last night. It could be the camera acting up. I will get the pics posted tomorrow so that you guys can look it over and let me know what you think.

Till, then, g-nite.

Well, I'm glad I waited until today to upload the images from night before last, because the same thing happened last night. Again, this may be some defect in my camera, but as I explain and show you what is going on, it perplexes me that it is only happening once a night.

Okay, first to how my webcam is operating. When it detects motion it immediately snaps a still shot. There appears to be some fraction of a second delay between detecting motion and the snapshot. Then there is a further fraction of a second delay as the video starts recording (but the first snapshot always precedes the start of the video by a very small amount of time). The camera will then continuously record for 5 minutes. About 3 seconds after the first snapshot (don't ask me why this delay and I can't find where I can change it) the camera takes a second snapshot and then a snapshot every frame until it has reached whatever limit I set. (Night before last I had on 5 snapshots, last night I changed it to 10 snapshots).

Okay, so there are always several activations prior to Springer going to bed due to him going in the kitchen off and on. He usually goes to bed about 1 - causing the last activation by him at that time. Then there shouldn't be anymore activations until I get up in the morning...barring a mouse I guess.

10/28/07:

Monitor log:

Date Time Description
Sunday, October 28, 2007 01:11:39 WebCam Monitor has detected motion.
Sunday, October 28, 2007 01:11:39 Alert 'Video/Audio Recording' started.
Sunday, October 28, 2007 01:11:41 Alert 'Take Snap' started.
Sunday, October 28, 2007 01:11:44 The alert 'Take Snap' completed.
Sunday, October 28, 2007 01:16:42 The alert 'Video/Audio Recording' was completed successfully. The 300 seconds recording was created.
Sunday, October 28, 2007 03:52:54 WebCam Monitor has detected motion.
Sunday, October 28, 2007 03:52:54 Alert 'Video/Audio Recording' started.
Sunday, October 28, 2007 03:52:56 Alert 'Take Snap' started.
Sunday, October 28, 2007 03:52:58 The alert 'Take Snap' completed.
Sunday, October 28, 2007 03:57:57 The alert 'Video/Audio Recording' was completed successfully. The 300 seconds recording was created.
Sunday, October 28, 2007 05:54:51 WebCam Monitor has detected motion.
Sunday, October 28, 2007 05:54:51 Alert 'Video/Audio Recording' started.
Sunday, October 28, 2007 05:54:54 Alert 'Take Snap' started.
Sunday, October 28, 2007 05:54:56 The alert 'Take Snap' completed.
Sunday, October 28, 2007 05:55:51 Monitoring stopped.
Sunday, October 28, 2007 05:55:51 The Alert 'Video/Audio Recording' was aborted by the user.

Okay, what I am showing from the log is the last activation by Springer at 1:11:39 a.m. followed by an activation at 3:52:54 by who knows what and then the activation at 5:54:51 by me.

Now, I'm going to link snapshots. First, this is the initiating snapshot on Springer's 1:11:39 activation:

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And this is the initiating snapshot on my 5:54:51 activation:

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Now, here is the initiating snapshot of the 3:52:54 activation along with the subsequent snapshots:

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Please note the apparent over exposure of the initiating snapshot and please note it does not happen on the first snapshot of either Springer's activation or mine, nor does it happen in the subsequent snapshots of the 3:52:54 activation. Now, there is a little digital defect of sorts in the left upper corner which is why I wonder if this is something going wrong with the camera.

I have also uploaded the accompanying video for the 3:52:54 activation. It's a boring 5 minutes of nothing.

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But then we get to last night. Again, several activation up until about 1:44 a.m. by Springer, one activation of unknown source at 3:31:56, followed by an activation this morning at 5:05 a.m. by me.

Here is the log:

Date Time Description
Monday, October 29, 2007 01:44:12 WebCam Monitor has detected motion.
Monday, October 29, 2007 01:44:12 Alert 'Video/Audio Recording' started.
Monday, October 29, 2007 01:44:14 Alert 'Take Snap' started.
Monday, October 29, 2007 01:44:17 The alert 'Take Snap' completed.
Monday, October 29, 2007 01:49:15 The alert 'Video/Audio Recording' was completed successfully. The 300 seconds recording was created.
Monday, October 29, 2007 03:31:56 WebCam Monitor has detected motion.
Monday, October 29, 2007 03:31:56 Alert 'Video/Audio Recording' started.
Monday, October 29, 2007 03:31:58 Alert 'Take Snap' started.
Monday, October 29, 2007 03:32:01 The alert 'Take Snap' completed.
Monday, October 29, 2007 03:36:59 The alert 'Video/Audio Recording' was completed successfully. The 300 seconds recording was created.
Monday, October 29, 2007 05:00:00 Monitoring was stopped because the device scheduler's stop time was reached.
Monday, October 29, 2007 05:05:19 Monitoring started with motion detection for Recording and Snap s).
Monday, October 29, 2007 05:05:28 WebCam Monitor has detected motion.
Monday, October 29, 2007 05:05:28 Alert 'Video/Audio Recording' started.
Monday, October 29, 2007 05:05:30 Alert 'Take Snap' started.
Monday, October 29, 2007 05:05:32 The alert 'Take Snap' completed.
Monday, October 29, 2007 05:10:31 The alert 'Video/Audio Recording' was completed successfully. The 300 seconds recording was created.
Monday, October 29, 2007 05:10:56 Monitoring stopped.

I am not including the initiating snapshots of Springer and my activations this time (I do have them saved) but suffice it to say, they are not overexposed...only the first snapshot at the 3:31:56 activation is...while all the subsequent snapshots at that activation are not. Again, the little digital defect is shown in the upper left corner of the first snapshot.

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As always, I look forward to hearing what you think about this.

P.S. To answer the inevitable question up front - no, there is no flash on the camera.

[edit on 10-29-2007 by Valhall]

interesting with the camera val
no thoughts on that why that would happen and I didn't really study the picture tonight, but I'll look at it again tomorrow.

as for the phone calls, that white noise one is a little creepy.

reply to post by Valhall


Yes! Finally I can actually listen to the EVP's! I've been reading this thread for several days off and on now and I'm on page 33. Thanks for the excellent log of the activity in your house; I'm just amazed that you've kept up with it for over 3 years (so far in the thread!).

Every time I get a chance to read this thread I get weird shivers (even before I saw any pictures of anything), and something strange usually happens (like a bang or just recently I looked at the security camera nd saw this strange green light in the middle of it, thought it was some kind of glare--and then it moved and looked like a person in a green hoodie...then it moved again and looked almost cthuloid--when I realized it was probably a spider (we have tons of them here) on the lense that the camera can't focus on.)

Whatever may be actually happnening in your house, Val, your reports are definitely making me more aware of what's going on around me! Thanks and I hope that by the time I reach the end of this thread, nothing bad has happened. Good luck and best wishes.