Have I Disturbed Some One? (Revisited)

reply to post by MountainStar


I don't know exactly what you've gotten yourself into and what you may have stirred, but I wouldn't despair, there is always some sort of spiritual action that you can take to change the course of events or lessen the cause. Feel free to u2 me.

Well, I can't set up my webcam tonight The webcam Springer bought is missing. It'll probably turn up in a peanut butter jar or something.

We'll go get one tomorrow to set up in the kitchen.

[edit on 10-17-2007 by Valhall]

so which tree is it val? The one you guys are already keeping the grandson from and what's the reason?

and have you ever had any "feelings" about the tree granny picked?

This is the tree we stay away from

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It's the only dead post oak on the property. It has a HUMONGOUS active beehive in it and if you get close enough to disturb them they come after you. Even Springer, when he mows the lawn with the riding lawnmower, mows in high gear around that tree and then drives like he's in the Indy 500 away...lmao.

The tree your granny picked is interesting for two reason:

1. It's inaccessible - so no worries in having to tell the grandson to stay away, you can't get to it for the huge flowering bush that is growing right in front of it.

2. It's right ON/IN the fence that separates our property from the property to the east. BUT, you have to remember that the original owner owned the land all the way down this block and the house that is just to the east of us was built by the original owner for his son and his daughter-in-law...in fact, the garage of that house actually extends on to our property. So if the fence line was moved to where the real surveyed property line was, that tree would fully be on our property.

[edit on 10-17-2007 by Valhall]

OH! One more thing I wanted to clarify. Is the tree which your granny identified as being the one the offering should be placed under also the one that should be avoided?

Val, when you do find the webcam, and get it set up, I have an idea. Borrow a techno gadget of some sort from someone. Set it up infront of the webcam. They are absoultly fascinated with new things. One of the "ghosties" in my old house was taken away with my computer, and digital clocks. Think with the mind of someone from 100 years ago. Imagine their curiosity. Its no wonder they love your kitchen and daughters room so much. Seems like the most fool proof way of catching them red handed.

Thanks, mrs. Great Idea! I might set my cell phone up to charge every night in full view of the webcam. I got hold of my son and he's going to pick me up a webcam and come over later to help me get it set up.

I'm excited about the webcam idea. Any pointer from others who have set one up will be greatly appreciated.

Originally posted by Valhall
Well, I can't set up my webcam tonight

The webcam Springer bought is missing.

[edit on 10-17-2007 by Valhall]

Just, before you go to bed tonight, walk into your kitchen and ask (out loud) for them to please return it by morning, because you need it. If you do, betcha $10 you find it tomorow either out in the open, or in the magical drawer .

reply to post by Valhall


That could work, if you use a ring that has not been heard in your house before. It needs to be something they have not seen before, that would make them so curious they couldnt resist. If you do the cell phone, call it in the middle of the night, from your bedroom. I would love to see what happens.

reply to post by Valhall


Yes! Same tree that she doesn't like is the one you leave the offering to, that's the tree she feels the "dutchman" most strongly associated with.

I find it interesting that that particular tree is inaccessible, sort of protected in it's own way one might say........

Interesting too that it's on the fence line too. I wonder, have you ever asked the neighbors to either side of you if they experience anything wierd? (I know it's not exactly the type of thing you want to start a conversation with but it would be fascinating to find out if perhaps one entity roams multiple houses.

Hi All!

My son picked up a webcam for me and helped me pick out a software package and get things set up. We actually had it monitoring last night and it activated several times. It was a good exercise to test the sensitivity of the camera/software and to learn how the software archives. I'm currently testing out a trial version of WebCam Monitor 4.2 and I like it so far. I will probably end up buying it unless some one recommends something comparable in price with more features.

Okay, we ran into problems - lol. ALL of the activations were due to two things: moths on the outside of the window and the wind blowing the branches of the trees that occlude an illuminated bush about 50 yards down the street in another yard. SO! We're going to have to block the window off at night when the camera is monitoring to prevent those activations. We'll probably either hang a towel or place a piece of paneling in front of the window.

I've uploaded one snapshot the software took so that I can show you where some of the historical events have taken place.

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Okay, you are looking to the west. We have not remodeled the kitchen so you are looking at the only cabinet space I have . On the left of the picture you will see a wide shallow drawer just below the countertop. That drawer is where I had placed the fork wrapped up in a towel, and where the spoon "appeared".

On the right side of the pic you will see a vertical column of 4 drawers. The second drawer from the bottom is the one that I keep my kitchen towels, dish rags and table cloths in, and that is where Springer's wallet "appeared" after its long absence.

Also, almost dead center in the kitchen window you will see a blue-green glow - that's the illuminated bush down the street. It's causing issues because it is partially occluded by the branches and leaves of one of our trees, so when the wind blows our tree it causes motion in that occluded area and it triggers the camera.

We'll get the window blocked off and try again tonight to see if we get any activations with those sources of movement removed.

And just for fun, I got a shot of me so that when we get a ghosty you can compare and say - nah, that's not Val!

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I need to know more like how intune to the spiritual world and did you buy 2nd hand things.

Probaly you are having something second-hand that belong to someone who pass away...

Children are often more intune to the spirtual world than adults are. Make them stay there and ask them to inform you if they hear anything. I suggest you also check th history of your house. If there are any history of people commiting suicide here, ask a priest or monk to chase away the spirits. If you unable to do so, ask the spirits gently to leave your family in peace. Also, ask them to if there's anything you can do for them because I suspect the spirits are earth-bound...those spirits are not able to pass on for some reason.

Here are my suggestions, I hope this will help.

Dana

Okay, there isn't any ill feeling inside the house. What about outside? Some souls can't be felt by normal beings, but they can be felt by monks and people like that.

I suggest you ask a monk or priest etc to purifly the house. I don't really think you have disturbed anyone...

I hope this helps and your children would stop hearing those voices...

Best wishes,
danachua

Thanks, dana, for your input.

I was asked by my chemist friend to conduct two experiments:

1. I've done this one - hold the fork and spoon and conduct an attempt at capturing EVPs about the spoon, who left, why, and what I should do with it. I asked several questions, but can't detect any response.

2. We have wrapped the fork in a towel and placed it back in the back of the drawer it was in when the spoon appeared. We have wrapped the spoon in a towel and placed it in the back of the drawer where Springer's wallet appeared.

We will leave them in those locations indefinitely and see what the ghosty-cam picks up.

Fabulous idea!! I cant wait to see what all you can capture on that new webcam thing.

What will you do if you capture something on the webcam Val? How will you feel about it?, and will it change anything for you?

Originally posted by mrsdudara
Fabulous idea!! I cant wait to see what all you can capture on that new webcam thing.

What will you do if you capture something on the webcam Val? How will you feel about it?, and will it change anything for you?

I will post it here. I will feel personally relieved that I have given myself an explanation for the strange things that go on around here on occasion. And it will give me peace of mind that I'm not insane. lol But seriously, it will make me believe there is something very important about the fork and spoon being together and it will give me a new avenue that I will feel is important to research.

Well, it appears I've got my sensitivity set too high on my motion detection, so I've done some adjustments to lessen the false activations. Nothing to report on last night's recordings.

Bear with me as I learn the in's and out's of this. I've not messed with this type stuff before.

nice to see you Val

I'll be interested to see if the separation experiment has any results.
I hope to have some more info for you soon on "objects manifesting" but I've started my house project and it may have to wait a few more days.

oh and I told my granny you're setting up a camera, she said you'll only see shadows. (did she mean as in shadow people? or that you won't catch anything but just shadows?) I don't know, I can't stand it when she says stuff and then refuse to elaborate. I was wondering if she perhaps meant that YOU are only capable of seeing them as shadows?

[edit on 10-19-2007 by worldwatcher]

Holy Murphy. It took me 4 days of reading (at work on lunch) to finish this thread and get updated! Quite proud of myself for keeping interest in something for so long!

One thing which struck me from reading through this thread. When you first posted the layout for you home, I immediately thought the two doors in the living room were linked somehow. As I think you mentioned later on you found out there was a vestibule in the original design (I'm assuming that this was where it was) The fact that your grandson was spooked looking at one door, then I believe you said a lot of knocking etc occurred on the other. I also believe you mentioned that Bear watched something move from one door to the other? I don't recall what it is called (laye line, witch line, waye line), but its an apparent spiritual line(s) which criss-cross the earth. Is there a way of looking to see if you have one running through these doors? I only mention this because you seem to have a lot of activitity and it seems some of your neighbours as well. This line (if they exist) could be amplifing these phenomenon.

Just another stray thought. You said these two doors are on the east and west side of your home - exactly?. Sun rise - Sun set. Could be a little pagan, but that seems interesting as well.



[edit on 19-10-2007 by DoubleDee]