Salvatore Pais confirms science in MH370 videos are real during live stream

a reply to: Lazy88

Are you claiming I'm trying to draw foot traffic to a specific site? Where have I done that? I didn't even provide the correct link to the videos in my OP lol.

But if you think finding a few screenshots are enough to disprove the entirety of the two videos, then I can't help you there. I've provided answers to every question that's been asked thus far and you refuse to accept it. You literally being ignorant to the information I'm bringing to the table.

- I've already showed you the background is not static.
- I've already stated the vapor from the plane is actually smoke coming from the 500 pounds of lithium ion batteries that were stored in the cargo.
- The satellite video comes from the SBIRS surveillance system
- The drone video comes a MQ-1C Gray Eagle with Thermal Layer
- The Cop e Tiger military exercise was happening in the area of the Nicobar Islands (which are the coordinates in the satellite video) at the time the plane disappeared so all our most advanced military assets were already in the region.

Let me know if you have any more questions and I'll be happy to answer.

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: lostgirl

Okay, your points are duly noted. I just don't see a motivation for the US, or any other government, to hijack MH370. What purpose could it possibly serve? The government(s) are up to a whole lot of clandestine and black sh!t, no argument, but hijacking and crashing MH370 serves no political purpose.

One other thing...nobody (and I mean NO ONE) shows up at Diego Garcia to land. Period. Anything within 100 miles of Diego Garcia would be met with fighter escorts and likely shot down without question. So, a divert to Diego Garcia is completely out of the question.

The only reason I used Diego Garcia as a location reference was just that, as a geographical reference in a very large ocean, the Indian Ocean. Otherwise, I could have easily used another geographical landmark. I even hesitated to use DG as a reference just because of some of the crazy theories about diverting there (which would NEVER happen).

At the time, there were B-2 Spirits staged at DG. You don't go anywhere near one of those things! Most people, even on a base, are not even allowed to know they're there, and these people have all sorts of clearances.

MH370 was carrying 20 staff from Freescale Semiconductor, all heading to China, to work in a chip fabrication plant in Tianjin.

Days before the disappearance, Freescale announced it was bringing to market 11 different radio/radar related products. It is probable that some of those products had either been used in military stealth aircraft (such as the B-2 Spirit), or alternately, and far more likely, that they would compromise stealth capability.

How do you stop a foreign power from utilizing such equipment that they are fabricating in-country? The only clear way to prevent it is to prevent production of the chips in the first place.

Diego Garcia is a perfect place to divert to, if the operation was to prevent China's access to tech.

Also, although composite panels float, so do seat cushions and luggage. Where did they wash up?

I'm with lostgirl. The elaborate hours-long slow suicide by drowning thousands of miles from anywhere doesn't make sense if all he wanted was to take as many with him as possible. If he ditched the plane hard into a city it would take even more lives than were onboard, and it would be relatively quick, painless and inevitable, too.

So, imagine if someone on the plane who had official authority, entered the cockpit and announced to the pilots "We need, for reason of national security, to ensure that these engineers don't get to China, and so we are diverting you to a secure military airfield. Please follow this flight plan so that we won't be traced. No-one will be harmed and we will avoid an international incident. Also, it is necessary that you don't communicate that this is happening. The destination is distant so that our involvement is not obvious."

Also, if it ditched into the ocean, why is some of the wreckage burnt on their interior surfaces?

a reply to: chr0naut

Okay, let's run with your idea for a moment...

If DG, forget the plane, but what do you do with all the passengers?

a reply to: chr0naut
Re:

So, imagine if someone on the plane who had official authority, entered the cockpit and announced to the pilots "We need, for reason of national security, to ensure that these engineers don't get to China, and so we are diverting you to a secure military airfield. Please follow this flight plan so that we won't be traced. No-one will be harmed and we will avoid an international incident. Also, don't communicate that this is happening."

Based on the recordings of air traffic control and the pilot & co-pilot, the final voice heard from the cockpit is irrefutably an American accent - Here's a link to the documentary from 2014 where the recordings can be heard:

MH370 Documentary

You can follow along with the narration by clicking on the transcript below the video - each voice heard (including the cockpit computer) is notated, and when it gets to the last words ever heard from flight MH370, even the transcript notation labels those last words, "Good Night, Malaysian Three Seven Zero.", as simply, "Cockpit Voice", whereas, each phrase spoken by pilot & co-pilot are labeled with their names!

Given all of that, it certainly seems to me that whoever the third person was in the cockpit, once they were leaving Malaysia air-space, he wasn't taking any chances of letting the pilot or co-pilot speak to air traffic control.

@ Flyingclaydisk

If DG, forget the plane, but what do you do with all the passengers?

If it 'was' a US government/military operation - well, how concerned, historically, have they been at incurring a little collateral damage?

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: chr0naut

Okay, let's run with your idea for a moment...

If DG, forget the plane, but what do you do with all the passengers?

Lots of options: Wipe their memories chemically (nepenthe?). Pay them and give them new identities. Imprison them. Execute them, or a mix of.

I think the real story is possibly that they had an interior fire, which cut comms, navigation, some fly-by wire systems and suffocated those onboard. The cabin, separated from the passengers, lasted a bit longer with the pilots essentially flying blind, hoping to chance on flying over populated space where they might be noticed. Autopilot maintained some systems after the crew realized they were loosing consciousness, and eventually the plane ran out of fuel and ditched, sinking relatively intact, and hence few bits of wreckage.

But all the satellite signals indicate that it ditched over the Indian Ocean, somewhere. It had fuel enough to reach Beijing, so it could have even reached Africa. The wreckage was found closer to Africa.

a reply to: lostgirl

a reply to: chr0naut

Well, I fully believe that Obama was a none too nice guy with some pretty evil ambitions, but this would be even more evil than I would think him capable of. So, maybe even I will have to admit some tunnel-vision because I just cannot accept that the US government would knowingly "dispose" of 239 people over 20 scientists for anything.

This government is capable of some pretty evil and clandestine sh!t, but I'm sorry, that's just too much for me to accept.

So, I will bow out now.

originally posted by: b0kal0ka
a reply to: Lazy88


- I've already showed you the background is not static.

How and where. Watching the actual video shows otherwise. Where older images are exact background matches for the videos.

originally posted by: b0kal0ka
a reply to: Lazy88

- I've already stated the vapor from the plane is actually smoke coming from the

There is no evidence of damage to the engines where firefights use thermal imaging that sees through smoke.

As far as satellite. How are satellites getting side view. And staying with the targets.

Utter failure by you to try to justify hoaxes. Where you fail to prop up your sources.

Sorry.

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: lostgirl

a reply to: chr0naut

Well, I fully believe that Obama was a none too nice guy with some pretty evil ambitions, but this would be even more evil than I would think him capable of. So, maybe even I will have to admit some tunnel-vision because I just cannot accept that the US government would knowingly "dispose" of 239 people over 20 scientists for anything.

This government is capable of some pretty evil and clandestine sh!t, but I'm sorry, that's just too much for me to accept.

So, I will bow out now.

How many have died in American 'police actions' over the years, and for what?

For instance, Afghani tribesmen couldn't threaten America in any way. And what was there that the US wanted to control - since Afghanistan is not noted for vast natural resources?

American servicemen dead: 2,459. CIA operatives dead: 10. Afghani's dead: 209,351+, just for oil and poppies???

I think that you are in denial about how many lives US leaders have and would sacrifice arbitrarily.

And it hasn't all been Obama's fault. The rot goes way back into US history and continues to this day.

Trump approved more than 2,243 known drone strikes, more than Obama did, before Trump classified the drone strike numbers to hide them from the public (Airwars has estimated 16,000 drone and airstrikes under Trump's first term). For what? To save the US from attack from the Middle East and Sub-Saharan Africa? What 'National Security' threats did they actually represent? Who knows how many Biden has done in secret (though I'd guess there's fewer than under Trump)?

Anyway, this will probably be deleted as being off-topic, despite it being a direct answer to your post.

originally posted by: chr0naut

I think the real story is possibly that they had an interior fire, which cut comms,

Aren’t there several lays of coms. By various devices. Where alarm codes are sent out and recorded by ground stations.

originally posted by: b0kal0ka
a reply to: Lazy88

- I've already showed you the background is not static.

Again. From stock video.

originally posted by: Lazy88
a reply to: ArMaP


The color video is claimed to be from satellite because it’s highly unlikely with no evidence there was anything in the area to film it. If it was civilian or in most cases military it would have a transponder. Unless stealth, it wound be on radar. A ballon over the ocean that happen to be in the flight path of 370? With video ability to film the jet? Why would a military assets film 370? And not through the heads up display? Civilians aircraft would have a transponder broadcasting. And most likely would film through a window.

Any record of aircraft in the area would be included in the flight 370 investigation.

But it’s worse than that. From the way pixels stack, the crappy resolution, the use of static backgrounds, and stock footage. The videos are a hoax.

Anyway. The “explosion” for this video is also found to be from stock footage.

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: chr0naut

I think the real story is possibly that they had an interior fire, which cut comms,

Aren’t there several lays of coms. By various devices. Where alarm codes are sent out and recorded by ground stations.

Yes, but they were in a bit of a comms null to ground stations at the time, and if the fire was fast enough the cabin staff would not have necessarily known until things were going quite wrong. Digital systems also multiplex data over the same wires - it makes the harness lighter, so the first sign of a problem could well have been no data at all, and hence no alarms.

a reply to: chr0naut

I know you don't like America or anything American. It's okay, I get it. Seems to me you perceive America as pure evil. To a degree, I can understand why, but through out your time here, you have always had a very negative take on America. Your opinions here only further exemplify that.

But here's one important thing...You are NOT from America, and you don't live here. You form your opinions from afar.

I'm sorry you don't like America, and just wish it would go away. I only wish the place you live and signal your virtue from was better.

Don't you?

edit - What you really want, in your heart of hearts is for America to be different, more like the world you think is the right way. Okay, well, make your world the right way first, and show those successes (but you can't)...and then we'll pay attention.

What you want is anger, and stress. You want unhappiness and fighting. You want political uprising...why? Because you, NZ, can't do it yourselves. So you live vicariously through us, Americans. You want America to fail for the same reasons that people love to see "others" fail. Why? Because it's not YOU! It's fun to watch (on TV).

So, if you want me to support your constant doom porn, then give me a good reason. To date, you never have...except for a great big batch of sour grapes.

Enjoy your world, Chroaunot. One day, time might catch up to your negative attitude.

Have a great day, my friend!

a reply to: Lazy88

Are you purposely ignoring everything I say? I've answered those questions already - here it is again:

- the background is not static. look at this gif in this link to see the clouds are actually evolving. you can see this in the videos if you slow it down frame by frame.

- regarding the smoke - a B777 Fire suppression bottle washed up in the Maldives March 25th, 2014. you think it's perfectly fine for a commercial plane to be loaded up with 500 pounts of lithium ion batteries?

- I'm not sure what you're not understanding about the satellites. the overhead view of the plane comes from the SBIRS satellite system. The side view comes from a MQ-1C Gray Eagle with Thermal Layer as I mentioned in my last post.

I've provided sources for every single statement of mine so let me know what else you need.

And what do you know? Candace Owens just interviewed CIA whistleblower Kevin Shipp today and he confirms the CIA was involved in MH370's disappearance.

youtu.be...

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: chr0naut

I know you don't like America or anything American. It's okay, I get it. Seems to me you perceive America as pure evil. To a degree, I can understand why, but through out your time here, you have always had a very negative take on America. Your opinions here only further exemplify that.

But here's one important thing...You are NOT from America, and you don't live here. You form your opinions from afar.

I'm sorry you don't like America, and just wish it would go away. I only wish the place you live and signal your virtue from was better.

Don't you?

edit - What you really want, in your heart of hearts is for America to be different, more like the world you think is the right way. Okay, well, make your world the right way first, and show those successes (but you can't)...and then we'll pay attention.

What you want is anger, and stress. You want unhappiness and fighting. You want political uprising...why? Because you, NZ, can't do it yourselves. So you live vicariously through us, Americans. You want America to fail for the same reasons that people love to see "others" fail. Why? Because it's not YOU! It's fun to watch (on TV).

So, if you want me to support your constant doom porn, then give me a good reason. To date, you never have...except for a great big batch of sour grapes.

Enjoy your world, Chroaunot. One day, time might catch up to your negative attitude.

Have a great day, my friend!

Honestly, I like some things and some people American.

But in much of the world there is such a thing as a statesman, someone willing to look for compromise in hopes of a win-win situation where nobody really looses. I don't think many current political leaders in any country retain that idea.

The drive to 'only ever compete' forcing the committees of the stupid to fight forever without reason, and everything escalates.

originally posted by: b0kal0ka
a reply to: Lazy88



- the background is not static.

Running the video back and forth clearly shows the clouds are a static background.

a reply to: b0kal0ka

As pointed out by Mick West. There is a composition error in the hoaxed thermal video. The contrails uncharacteristically / unrealistically jump around.

originally posted by: b0kal0ka
a reply to: Lazy88

- regarding the smoke - a B777 Fire suppression bottle washed up in the Maldives March 25th, 2014. you think it's perfectly fine for a commercial plane to be loaded up with 500 pounts of lithium ion batteries?

Which has what with you claiming the fake contrails are actually fake smoke? 🤨

More on the static cloud background being from stock.

MH370 Teleportation Video Fakery: Clouds Stock Footage Found!!

edit on 3-12-2024 by Lazy88 because: (no reason given)

a reply to: b0kal0ka

Ok? You think obviously hoaxed videos proven repeatedly to be hoaxes on many levels by many people are real? Guess the joke is on you.

a reply to: Lazy88

I could not care less if mainstream debunkers like Corridor Crew and Mick West say its fake, I will form my own opinion. The logic they use to "debunk" these videos could literally be applied to any video on the internet.

When you get a chance, take a look at how people reacted to the Tic Tac video when it first appeared online. Everyone was convinced it was CGI until the Navy confirmed it.

a reply to: Myhandle

steven seagal did it to air force one, back in 1997
when harrrison ford was president....... look it up

pllus half of movie ideas came from miliitary cool stuff
you know SOMEONE built one or tried it
we can tap into a submarine underwater, air aint much difffrent

flown to diego garcia hidden in a hangar made for b2
THEN kill everyone and dump in ocean

kidnapping the 12? scientists that made a device
to make plane invisible ffrom radar.. maybe from
L3 corp or Freescale Semiconductor

if you think our governmint or CORPORAATIONS
wouldnt kill 300 peoplle to keep a secret,, or
TO MAKE MONEY you dont know our POLITICIIANS


my memorys a little fuzzy, but......