Salvatore Pais confirms science in MH370 videos are real during live stream

The man who's been mentioned several times in Michael Shellenberger's testimony submitted to Congress back in November, Salvatore Pais, has confirmed the science in the MH370 videos is REAL during a live stream with Ashton Forbes. I know this website likes to believe they MH370 videos have been debunked, but most of us have just fallen for a CIA psy-op - the videos are real.

Live stream is going on right now at this link:
www.youtube.com...

Here are the MH370 videos for anyone that hasn't seen them yet:
web.archive.org...://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ok1A1fSzxY
web.archive.org...://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShapuD290K0

Here's the link to Michael Shellenberger's testimony. You can just Ctrl+F Salvatore Pais there and you'll see his name mentioned several times.
oversight.house.gov...

a reply to: b0kal0ka

Huh?

What videos? What science are you referring to? I tried to watch the live stream, but it wasn't talking about MH370 at all. The archive links lead nowhere.

Care to explain?

I have a very strong interest in this subject, and also a number of theories about what happened, and where the plane (wreckage) actually is (and it's not where they're looking).

a reply to: b0kal0ka

to determine what people wish to belive, its good to have 2 sides to the discussion

so here is a take on why those videos may be fake

a reply to: UpIsNowDown2

Well, not knowing what videos the OP was referring to initially, if it's the ones debunked in the video you listed, well, then I don't care. Aliens did not abduct MH 370, that much is clear. And, if that's testimony which is actually taking place at the Congressional level, then it's just all the more justification for term limits because anyone who would even sit and listen to nonsense like that is flipping crazy and shouldn't be running our government...at all!

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Sorry about that, I've never posted a thread on here so I screwed up all the links lol. But essentially, there are scientific papers out there (Hal Puthoff, Sal Pais, Ken Shoulders, etc.) that support what we're seeing in the MH370 videos. In the live stream, they touch on the MH370 videos in the beginning. I tried to link the Archive links because it shows the dates the videos were uploaded - just a few weeks after MH370 disappeared in 2014.

You can watch the both videos on this Vimeo link:
vimeo.com...

a reply to: UpIsNowDown2

yeah but this debunk attempt did not do it for me. they found a VFX asset that barely matches a single frame from one of the two videos - not sure how that's supposed to debunk the entire thing. if we go by that logic, we can debunk literally any video on the internet.

a reply to: b0kal0ka

Okay. No worries.

Well, definitely take a look at the video posted by UpIsNowDown2 (above) then. Do this before you comment much further and potentially look silly. If those are the videos you're referring to, and it sounds like you are, then they are clearly CGI.

There's some much more interesting, albeit highly technical, recent research into MH 370 which is gaining a lot of traction. It's a theory developed by an amateur radio (HAM) operator in Europe. It has some challenges (which I would expect, due to people trying to justify their own theories (and search locations)), but any theory should be able to stand up to peer review. I have long argued they are looking in the wrong place for the MH 370 wreckage. I also know for 100% fact that there is much more information about the track of MH 370 than has been released due to military secrecy about capabilities.

Just to elaborate a bit...

Most of the existing theories are all based on a tunnel vision view of what happened, thus all of the 'most probable' search locations are a direct outfall of this tunnel vision. The basic assumption is that MH 370 wasn't under control of the pilots after it left the South China Sea. I don't believe this was the case, and I also believe this can be proven (someday). I call it the "Left Turn Theory". You could also call it the "Right AND Left turn theory" (but the left turn is much more difficult to describe. A prominent moderator here and I have debated this theory for years. It basically goes like this...

There are a number of things which can be explained about MH370, but here's (3) things which can't:

1. It took intelligent control to choose the route crossing back over Malaysia and Thailand. No coincidence would have the plane fly right along the border between the two countries (which it did).

2. Then we get to the first big item. Somewhere after Penang MH370 made a right turn. Some argue it wasn't a "turn", but rather a 'drift'. Okay, but it's awful curious this 'drift' was just enough to skirt western Indonesian airspace.

3. Lastly, and biggest of all; once MH370 was out of range of Indonesian radar they made a left turn to head south out over the Indian Ocean. This was a conscious maneuver, meaning someone was "flying" (controlling) the plane at this point. Somewhere some government has military data which proves this. The Straights of Malacca are some of the most heavily monitored air and sea space in all of Asia.

At any rate, the current theories are based on INMARSAT data which was picking up signals from the Rolls Royce engines. The theories are all based on the notion that no one was at the controls and MH370 had been on autopilot for hours by this time. Hence, the search locations are all off of western Australia.

Another problem is, most of the theories assume all the passengers and likely the crew were dead by this point. But they didn't have to be. No one aboard would have had any idea where they were flying that night. All they would have known was they were on a plane at night. Zahari could have locked the flight deck door and not said a thing and no one would have known any different, nor would they have known the co-pilot was dead.

Consequently, if the "Left Turn" theory is valid, then we can conclude that Zahari was in control. Thus, if he was in control, he would have never flown toward Australia. If his intentions were to fly out and ditch in the middle of the Indian Ocean, then he would have flown much further west...approximately 2,550 miles west (or about 600-800 miles south of Diego Garcia, which would have been over the horizon for them). This much better explains why the only recovered wreckage was found on Reunion, Mozambique, Mauritius, Madagascar and South Africa.

Lastly, if you look at the geography of western Indonesia, and the flightpath from Penang, Malaysia, you can clearly see it would have taken a very deliberate left hand turn to get pointed anywhere over the Indian Ocean, let alone pointed to Australia.

BTW...I believe the real crash site is 793 miles SW of Diego Garcia at roughly -17.54S x 67.106E

edit - If you're wondering about my interest in MH370, it's because I worked and lived in Malaysia for several years as an ex-pat. I was a Platiunum Kris member on Malaysian Airlines (MAS), and regularly flew on them back to the States when I couldn't get on a Singapore Airlines flight which worked with my schedule. I also helped build Kuala Lumpur International Airport, of which MAS was one of the principal bond holders, as a senior advisor to the Malaysian government.

To me, MH370 was more than just a big deal.