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Salvatore Pais confirms science in MH370 videos are real during live stream

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posted on Dec, 2 2024 @ 08:10 AM
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I agree with Flyingclaydisk, aliens did not abduct this plane and it was indeed a deliberate act. However, it was performed by the US military and NOT the pilot. There were 20 Freescale Semiconductor scientists and engineers on this single flight (having this many people on a single flight would violate any corporate travel policies) going to China. China was monitoring this flight based on the image they released of the flight back in 2014.

The satellite video first appeared on YouTube on May 19th, 2014 and the drone video appeared on June 12, 2014. The footage we see in the satellite video is consistent with the satellite image Trump released from USA-224 in 2019 and the FLIR drone footage from the DoD Navy UAP videos from 2017. If these videos were fake, the hoaxer would already need knowledge of this tech back in 2014.

And for those of you that claim plane parts were found, sure. Those parts could legitimately be from the plane. But think about it, how would that disprove the authenticity of these videos? We have no idea what happened during (or after) the event displayed in the videos so whats to say those parts broke off at some point. All I know is that the plane absolutely did NOT crash into the ocean like everyone wants to believe. The largest search rescue mission in the history of humanity did not find a single article of clothing, body, piece of plastic, seat cushion, etc.



posted on Dec, 2 2024 @ 08:12 AM
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a reply to: Myhandle

yup, that's right, those engineers were indeed on that flight. and if you look into what happened to that company after this event, you'll start digging down another rabbit hole. The company was called Freescale SemiConductors.

Unfortunately, it looks like the CIA's CGI debunk psy-op has worked on a lot of us truth seekers. But the truth will ultimately prevail, these videos will be publicly accepted in time.



posted on Dec, 2 2024 @ 08:21 AM
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a reply to: WeMustCare

Sorry, but this debunk does not do it for me. You guys found VFX assets that slightly match a couple frames in one of two videos - how does that disprove the authenticity of these videos? If we use that kind of logic, we could "debunk" literally any video on the internet.

Answer me this question - why would a hoaxer create TWO fake videos within a couple of weeks of a random plane disappearing that just happens to not have been found 10 years later and never claim credit? That seems like quite the coincidence.

These videos were completely outside of the paradigm even for us conspiracy theorists back in 2014. If people were to look at the footage of just the plane flying in the videos (before the orbs appear), everyone would agree its real. Why would the "hoaxer" take this already incredible footage, then add these insane orbs and a zap to it at the end?



posted on Dec, 2 2024 @ 08:42 AM
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a reply to: BeyondKnowledge3

thanks for your help, that is indeed the video.

regarding your question about the technology being real, there's a long list of scientists out there you can start looking into. the most obvious imo would be Hal Puthoff and Salvatore Pais - just do a google search of their scientific papers and you'll see that this is stuff has been researched for decades.

or if you'd like, you can start looking through the DIA's FOIA reading room which contains papers with titles like Traversable Wormholes, Stargates, and Negative Energy

DIA FOIA Reading Room

Traversable Wormholes, Stargates, and Negative Energy



posted on Dec, 2 2024 @ 09:34 AM
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a reply to: b0kal0ka

I really think you need to apply Occam's Razor to MH370's disappearance. Ask yourself a few questions:

1. Why would the US or anyone else employ such fantastical technology against a civilian airliner when there are 10,000 other far simpler ways to accomplish the same task? Some of the things you are suggesting (i.e. stargates, transferrable worm holes, etc.) IF they existed would require nearly biblical amounts of energy to operate, energy which wouldn't be readily accessible over the middle of the Indian Ocean. Instead, a simple fire would accomplish the same goal.

2. There's no credible evidence to indicate there's some mistake in interpreting the Rolls Royce data uplinked from the engines to inmarsat. It's not location oriented data, but it is proof the airliner was still transmitting for many hours over the Indian Ocean. And how do we know it was over the Indian Ocean? Because even satellites orbiting the Earth have a "horizon". The only reason it wasn't directional data was because there's not at least (3) of these satellites in any one hemisphere at the same time, and certainly not over the Indian Ocean where few aircraft ever fly. So, are you suggesting this information is false? And, if so, what would be the point of falsifying such information? It would serve no point.

3. As for the recovered wreckage, several of the recovered items have been positively identified through unique and discrete serial numbers confirming they did in fact come from MH370. So, this isn't up for debate. Regarding your assertion that this is not proof that the event you are suggesting still didn't happen, I can only add that it is not possible to prove a negative. Consequently, I would ask...how do you "know" MH370 "absolutely did NOT crash into the ocean"? In order to make such a claim, you must have proof, and those two videos (alone) are not proof.

I will agree with you that it is odd searchers never found more wreckage like you describe from the crash. However, I attribute this to focusing search efforts on the incorrect location due to tunnel-vision of what caused the event in the first place. Much of that wreckage has now likely dispersed, been eaten or sank. Just look at how long it took researchers to find the Great Pacific Garbage patch in the Pacific Ocean. That thing didn't get created overnight, and it's millions of times bigger than any debris field from MH370 would be, yet it still took researchers decades to find it. Now put this into perspective of locating MH370 debris.



posted on Dec, 2 2024 @ 10:02 AM
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recall the space shuttle 'columbia" disintegration... so was MH370 over ocean catastrophe....
no portals only 'sphincters' involved



posted on Dec, 2 2024 @ 10:02 AM
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recall the space shuttle 'columbia" disintegration... so was MH370 over ocean catastrophe....
no portals only 'sphincters' involved



posted on Dec, 2 2024 @ 10:02 AM
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recall the space shuttle 'columbia" disintegration... so was MH370 over ocean catastrophe....


no portals, only 'sphincters' involved
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posted on Dec, 2 2024 @ 10:30 AM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

1. Why would the US or anyone else employ such fantastical technology against a civilian airliner when there are 10,000 other far simpler ways to accomplish the same task? Some of the things you are suggesting (i.e. stargates, transferrable worm holes, etc.) IF they existed would require nearly biblical amounts of energy to operate, energy which wouldn't be readily accessible over the middle of the Indian Ocean. Instead, a simple fire would accomplish the same goal.

A vulgar display of power to avoid a war? What if it didn’t take biblical amounts of energy? The implication would be that we are little g gods.
You might already thought of that and dismissed it though. Occam’s razor is pretty reliable



posted on Dec, 2 2024 @ 10:40 AM
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a reply to: Myhandle

It's only a vulgar display of power if other people know and recognize what it is. Likewise, the vulgar 'display-er' would need to take credit for it, else no one would know where it came from, thus who to be afraid of. And, if it truly was a God of some sort, theologians would be quick to claim it as proof of a higher power.

And speaking of vulgar, Occam's Razor once again applies in the form of...'He who smelt it, most likely dealt it'!

See? It all comes back to good ol' Occam.



posted on Dec, 2 2024 @ 11:01 AM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Trust me, I've contemplated these videos for a long time. When I first looked at them, I immediately thought they were fake. However, the extensive details in them kept drawing me back - each time I'd revisit them, I'd find a new little piece to it. I've always lived by Occam's Razor but just because there is something happening that we don't understand, doesn't mean it's fake. Even when you apply that methodology to it being a hoax, it doesn't make sense.

But to answer your questions:

1. Great question. In my opinion, it was a show of force to China. The US knew China was monitoring this plane since the engineers were deflecting to China so they wanted a way to tell China "DON'T # WITH US." Or, it could just be a cleaner way of conducting this operation since there were so many eyes on the plane.
I'm glad you asked about the energy too because THIS is what we should be paying attention to. All the UFO talk lately has been that there's stuff flying around airspaces with unknown means of propulsion and that it can't possibly be humans. Well I'm going out on a limb to say it actually is human and likely something we reverse engineered from a prior UFO crash. As for what exactly the energy source is, I believe it's zero-point energy - it's harnessing the quantum vacuum fluctuations (casimir effect, Pais' superforce, etc). I think this is ultimately helps provide some insight into Project Blue Beam as well but that's a whole other topic.

2. As far as I remember, the source of the location data came from an excel spreadsheet - something that can be easily manipulated. I could be wrong on this though so if you have any resources on this, let me know. The reason they'd falsify the data though is simple - they don't want people to search anywhere near where the event actually took place. if you look at the coordinates on the video, it leads us to the Nicobar Islands. And do you know what was happening in that region of that world at that exact time? The Cope Tiger Exercises between USA, Thailand, and Singapore. All our most advanced assets would have already been in that area.
And in case you haven't seen what our satellites can do, I suggest you take a look at this SBIRS satellites video:



3. I'm still skeptical that those parts are actually from MH370 but I'll play along. We don't know what happens to the plane during or after the zap. It could have been teleported, annihilated, or something else altogether. Either way, we don't fully understand what's happening to the plane in the video so finding some random pieces of the plane won't prove the videos one way or another. I know it didn't crash into the ocean because I know we have sufficient technology to prove it. When the Titan sub imploded deep in the ocean last year, the US military's underwater acoustic instruments heard it and were able to pinpoint exactly where it happened. If a plane crashed into the ocean, they'd obviously be able to hear it as well. Let alone all the debris (plastics, seats, clothes, etc) that would rise to the surface.

www.aljazeera.com...
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posted on Dec, 2 2024 @ 11:23 AM
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a reply to: b0kal0ka

Which videos?

The ones from this thread listed below are soundly debunked beyond a reasonable doubt.




The Untold Story of Malaysian Flight MH370

www.abovetopsecret.com...



Are your videos different than the two debated over in the thread “The Untold Story of Malaysian Flight MH370”.


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posted on Dec, 2 2024 @ 11:34 AM
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a reply to: b0kal0ka

Well, I guess my response would be this...

1 & 2 - I work in aviation. Specifically I work in the electronics and communications side of aviation in engineering. I'm pretty familiar with air to ground, air to air and satellite uplink comms. It's what we do.

3. The reason the Titan sub implosion was acoustically observed was because of its location and the proximity to the next generation SOSUS gear (for detecting Russian submarine activities in the Atlantic). Systems like these exist in the northern Pacific also, but not a lot of coverage in the southern Indian Ocean. Now, other governments may have similar systems, but they're not going to be in the Indian Ocean either. The middle of the Indian Ocean is a lonely, lonely, place and not many people go there. All the more reason for places like Diego Garcia.



posted on Dec, 2 2024 @ 02:27 PM
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Yes, those are the same videos I'm talking about and they have not been debunked. Finding VFX assets that somewhat match random frames from one of two videos is not enough - if we go by this logic, any video on the internet can be debunked. Let's not forget that the Tic Tac videos were once debunked as well.



posted on Dec, 2 2024 @ 03:38 PM
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a reply to: b0kal0ka

its not just 1 or 2 frames, the whole background does not move, the clouds do not evolve in any way, its a still frame photo background

and the thermal camera shows plane contrials which if it was a true thermal image would not be visible

watch the video i posted if you have the time or inclanation, MH370 starts at 3.18min



posted on Dec, 2 2024 @ 04:40 PM
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a reply to: b0kal0ka

All the same. Those videos get posted here every few months. And why and how they are seriously debunked is revisited.

If people are telling you those videos are authentic, you need new sources.



posted on Dec, 2 2024 @ 10:38 PM
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a reply to: UpIsNowDown2

the clouds do indeed move, see for yourself. x.com...

the thermal camera isn't showing contrails, it's showing the smoke emanating from the 500 pounds worth of lithium ion batteries that were stored in the cargo illegally The Deadly Cargo Inside MH370 (Daily Beast)

I've already seen the video you posted. those guys honestly made me cringe and their recreation attempt was terrible lol. It still does not make sense to me at all why or how someone would hoax these videos.



posted on Dec, 2 2024 @ 10:45 PM
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a reply to: Lazy88

and we'll keep posting it until this website begins to accept it as being real. the way you guys treat these videos is no different to how normies treat conspiracy theories so I'm used to all the ridicule we've been getting anyways.

please reconsider why you think the videos are fake and ask how it makes sense. the truth is staring us right in our faces but it's too unbelievable for anyone to accept it.
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posted on Dec, 3 2024 @ 03:28 AM
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originally posted by: b0kal0ka
a reply to: Lazy88




please reconsider why you think the videos are fake


Because it’s proven someone used screenshots of stock footage / photos and used computer effects to generate the action in your videos against a static background. With you having no explanation why vapor trails are showing up clearly and distinctly on supposed thermal imaging with no explanation what platform and video equipment was used to capture the video, with you having no explanation how and where that platform came from to be in the right spot to capture the video.

Your videos have been soundly debunked several times by many sources. On many levels.

You’re not fighting ignorance. You leading the charge of ignorance.



posted on Dec, 3 2024 @ 07:32 AM
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One has to wonder if some people post to create foot traffic to specific sites and have to keep that sites cash cow on life support?




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