Salvatore Pais confirms science in MH370 videos are real during live stream

originally posted by: b0kal0ka
a reply to: Lazy88

How did the hoaxer make these videos in such short time with so much detail and accurate science?

For me, Government deflection, deception, cover up; meant to be debunked over time to natural conclusion of 'case closed'. I don't have proof, just a hunch.

originally posted by: b0kal0ka
a reply to: Lazy88

What's the story you've come up with to fit your hoaxer scenario? How did the hoaxer make these videos in such short time with so much detail and accurate science?

It’s been covered in the reference material you act like it doesn’t exist.

What’s your story to try to con or hoax people into the contrails clearly rendered to be contrails into the false narrative it’s smoke from a fire that doesn’t show up on the hoax thermal imaging from a sealed / pressurised fuselage?



Got the name and know where the 3k Ashton Forbes got hoaxed out of ended up.

Got a reason why hoaxers post hoax videos on YouTube everyday other than to see how many idiots will fall for the hoax?

Got a reason why people would send money to grifter like Ashton Forbes?

First Post: Seeking Advice About Emerging 'Free Energy' Scammer Ashton Forbes

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I forgot about all the energy scams that were just on YouTube.


Ashton Forbes now pushing energy swindles. What a grifter. On the same level as YouTube marketing. Can’t make this $hit up.

😂😂😂😁😁😁😁

a reply to: Lazy88

Ashton Forbes lives rent free in your head 😂😂😂. I don't give a # about him.

I'll ask for a fifth time. You keep engaging with my threads so answer me.

What's the story you've come up with to fit your hoaxer scenario? How did the hoaxer make these videos in such short time with so much detail and accurate science?

originally posted by: b0kal0ka
a reply to: Lazy88

Ashton Forbes lives rent free in your head 😂😂😂. I don't give a # about him.

Calling a proven grifter a grifter is calling a spade a spade.


Unfortunately. I asked you first about the contrails rendered to look like contrails you keep trying to con and hoax people by falsely arguing they are smoke from a cargo fire from a sealed / pressurised fuselage where the fire doesn’t show up on supposed thermal imaging.




So b0kal0ka, why you trying to con people with blatantly false arguments? That’s the real question.

a reply to: Lazy88

I've answered a million of your questions already. You don't get any more answers from me until you answer mine.

What's the story you've come up with to fit your hoaxer scenario? How did the hoaxer make these videos in such short time with so much detail and accurate science?

a reply to: b0kal0ka

originally posted by: Lazy88

MH370 went missing on March 8, 2014. Ten weeks after that, an anonymous YouTuber, RegicideAnon, posted a video that purported to be a stereo satellite image of a plane. The video (since deleted but still available on archive.org) shows some clouds over a blue ocean background. A plane, banking steeply, flies into view from the top left.

About fifteen seconds later, a white orb-like object flies in and begins to loop around the plane. It’s joined a few seconds later by two more. The three orbs orbit the plane as it levels out; then there’s a sudden flash of light, and the plane and orbs vanish without a trace.

It was a simple-looking fake, something any artist could knock out in a few days with common tools such as Blender and After-Effects. Most people recognized this and paid it very little attention. It had little impact but gained a steady trickle of views.

Three weeks later, a second video was released. This showed what looked like the same scene, but now from the perspective of a military drone filming with a thermal camera. Again, the plane flies into view, the orbs follow it, and then it vanishes in a flash. Again, most people assumed—quite correctly—that it was fake, and no one really paid it any attention.

That should have been the end of it. But fast-forward to 2023. People on the Reddit forum r/UFOs suddenly rediscovered the videos. Reddit user Voelkero posted links to the video and commented, “My hope is that some of you will be able to conclusively prove that it is faked.”

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originally posted by: UpIsNowDown2

originally posted by: Lazy88
a reply to: ArMaP


The color video is claimed to be from satellite because it’s highly unlikely with no evidence there was anything in the area to film it. If it was civilian or in most cases military it would have a transponder. Unless stealth, it wound be on radar. A ballon over the ocean that happen to be in the flight path of 370? With video ability to film the jet? Why would a military assets film 370? And not through the heads up display? Civilians aircraft would have a transponder broadcasting. And most likely would film through a window.

Any record of aircraft in the area would be included in the flight 370 investigation.

But it’s worse than that. From the way pixels stack, the crappy resolution, the use of static backgrounds, and stock footage. The videos are a hoax.

Anyway. The “explosion” for this video is also found to be from stock footage.

Debunks of the Aliens Abducting a Plane

MH370 Teleportation Video Fakery: Clouds Stock Footage Found!!

Strange. All things posted in this thread.

a reply to: Lazy88

Nope, you STILL haven't answered my question. I want the STORY behind the hoaxer and why they would bother to make two perfectly in-sync videos so soon after the plane disappeared.

If this is a hoax like you claim, then let's work out the story behind it.

a reply to: b0kal0ka

Ok, let me attempt to answer your questions.

An infinate number of monkeys wants to talk to you about the script for Hamlet they worked out in an infinate amount of time.

Now to explain that answer.

People are board. They look for something to do. Some are quite talented in ways you have no understanding of. They make things with those talents to improve their talents and show what they can do.

Those videos probably took less than an hour to make both of them given the right individual with the right equipment and talent. No one ever said they started on it after the disappearance. There is nothing indicating those videos were not made years before the aircraft in question disappeared. You assumed the video was started after the disappearance.

Noone ever stated that the video creators made those videos to be about MH370. Again you assumed that. Someone else had a copy and thought it would be fun to fool people by posing that it was about that aircraft.

The monkies example also explains your obsession for these videos. In all the world that is on the internet, there has to be a few so gullable that they think those videos are real.

I am not trying to insult you but you are just beating a dead horse. It had begun to smell days ago. You are just stirring up the stink and getting it all over yourself.

Find something new to make a thread about. Something that is not so fake it is obvious.

a reply to: b0kal0ka

The Satellite data recorded for flight MH370 may have come from classified sources.
Specific bus architecture and capabilities for the constellation would be.
Rendering images was done using CGI methods that produced recognizable artifacts in some cases.
The images from the far side of the moon in the 1960's are a good example of that.

In this case the investigators released satellite data to the public. Multi-image matching would be used to identify the object as a Boeing 777 but the exact algorithm that generated the image avatar for screen display might never be known.

There is a lot of number crunching that goes on before the CG greens and the blues show up on a display screen.

There are so many plane crashes that have left us with unanswered questions.
Colgan air Flight 3407 for example so much makes no sense.

originally posted by: b0kal0ka
a reply to: Lazy88

Nope, you STILL haven't answered my question. I want the STORY behind the hoaxer and why they would bother to make two perfectly in-sync videos so soon after the plane disappeared.

If this is a hoax like you claim, then let's work out the story behind it.

A simple enough reason would be money

Views on social media platforms generate money for the uploaded and the more they are shared by others to sites like ATS gives them more money

a reply to: UpIsNowDown2

Thats a good observation, the definition of a HOAX is that it has been fully assimilated by *some* and determined to be mis-leading.

So then what is the motive?

I'm not sure these videos have been fully assimilated, I summarized the very limited knowledge I have been reading concerning technical authenticity. Personally I still have not been able to find anything other than *potentially* serious educational inquiry?

originally posted by: BeyondKnowledge3
a reply to: b0kal0ka
Those videos probably took less than an hour to make both of them given the right individual with the right equipment and talent. No one ever said they started on it after the disappearance. There is nothing indicating those videos were not made years before the aircraft in question disappeared. You assumed the video was started after the disappearance.

Noone ever stated that the video creators made those videos to be about MH370. Again you assumed that. Someone else had a copy and thought it would be fun to fool people by posing that it was about that aircraft.

You really think it's unreasonable to assume these videos are showing MH370 huh? I appreciate you for not insulting me unlike some of the others here but, let me take you through a few facts since you guys all think I'm an idiot:

- The videos are showing the exact silhouette of a 777-200ER (MH370 is the only missing 777 in history).

- Satellite coordinates put it on the flightpath of MH370 in the Nicobar Islands



- Officials at the 460th Operations Group Commander at Buckley AFB confirmed SBIRS provided technical data to the intelligence community to help solve MH370. Scroll through the slideshow in the link below to see.
Exclusive Look At Sbirs And Its Capabilities -Aviation Week

- The youtuber that uploaded the videos posted on his twitter account that the videos were MH370.
RegicideAnon -Twitter


I know you'll be disingenuous and say none of these reasons are valid but any objective person would see these facts and at least admit the videos are displaying MH370 (fake or not).

originally posted by: UpIsNowDown2

originally posted by: b0kal0ka
a reply to: Lazy88

Nope, you STILL haven't answered my question. I want the STORY behind the hoaxer and why they would bother to make two perfectly in-sync videos so soon after the plane disappeared.

If this is a hoax like you claim, then let's work out the story behind it.

A simple enough reason would be money

Views on social media platforms generate money for the uploaded and the more they are shared by others to sites like ATS gives them more money

You realize these videos were uploaded in 2014 and got no traction right? Youtube ended up taking it down altogether for some odd reason and only up until last year did people start looking at it again. The only reason more people believe them now is because of all the UFO chatter the last few years. Back in 2014, you would be stupid to think a UFO video showing orbs circling a plane would generate you money.

a reply to: b0kal0ka

Prior to uploading any video the uploader has zero idea if it will get any traction

I was merely offering a simpler solution, MONEY, hell some people make 100s of videos in the hope just 1 goes viral and either earns them money or online attention

Perhaps the person who uploaded these videos was hoping for one of those two outcomes

Edit
Why in 2014 would such a person think that back then YouTube paid out more to the content creators than they do today

a reply to: UpIsNowDown2

Apologies, I misunderstood what you meant. But that's a fair point.

My only counter would be that the videos are not as easy to make as the debunkers online make them out to be. Just look up the Corridor Crew's remake attempt to see how bad they did. Even using all the resources they have (being a massive youtube channel) and using today's technology, they couldn't get it right.

And this is before we get into all the suppressed science/technology (plasma physics, casimir effect, zero point scalar interferometry, fractal toroidal moments, etc.) and classified military resources (Citrix remote terminal, footage from MQ-1C drone, false color IR, NROL-22 footage, etc.) the supposed hoaxer would have to know of that he implemented into the video.

There are far far too many coincidences with these videos to simple be a hoax. Do you not agree?

originally posted by: b0kal0ka

Just look up the Corridor Crew's remake attempt to see how bad they did.

Got a link?

a reply to: b0kal0ka

Shrugs…

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: b0kal0ka

Just look up the Corridor Crew's remake attempt to see how bad they did.

Got a link?

Yeah, these are the guys Mick West copied his "debunk" from. Look around the 7:00 mark to see their recreation.



They also "debunked" the same Gimbal video the Navy said is real. Interesting huh?