I thought Trump was the existential threat?

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: cherokeetroy

Trump has had 4 years to mull things over. He's had 4 years to analyze data coming out about the vaccines. Now it's his turn to "figure it all out". We'll see if there's going to be any actual justice this time around or if it'll be the same old song & dance.

Going back to what started this you said Trump failed, killed a million people

Biden comes in and makes one bad decision after another for four years and that is OK

Is that what I literally said? Don't put words in my mouth.

Trump was booed into silence at his own rallies for bringing up the vaccines. Do you know why?

It takes a big man to admit making a mistake. Trump seems incapable of this type of honest self reflection. In Trump's mind, he doesn't make mistakes. This is self destructive behavior. If he won't own up to his mistakes, he'll never learn from his mistakes. He's doomed to repeat them over and over again.

originally posted by: cherokeetroy
Is that what I literally said? Don't put words in my mouth.

You are right, you didn't say that. Another person much like yourself said that in another post, I stand corrected.

It takes a big man to admit making a mistake. Trump seems incapable of this type of honest self reflection. In Trump's mind, he doesn't make mistakes. This is self destructive behavior. If he won't own up to his mistakes, he'll never learn from his mistakes. He's doomed to repeat them over and over again.

The first 6 months no one in the world knew crap about the virus. Everyone was jumping through hoops trying to figure it all out. Most deaths were caused by going on ventilators, later we learned that just putting people on their stomachs was 100x better than ventilators. Trump handed Biden 6 months' worth of data, a vaccine, and a better understanding of what we were dealing with that turned out to be much less of a thing than originally thought.

With all that Biden failed and misstepped for four years, but you seem to see Trump as the problem. Biden failed to even do one thing correctly even with all the gained knowledge and vaccine that Trump didn't have up front.

a reply to: Xtrozero

Biden should have been behind bars a long time ago. Biden never should have been in office in the first place. If Trump would have "drained the swamp" during his first term, the 2020 election wouldn't have been stolen and Biden wouldn't have become President. That was Trump's failure and the country suffered as the result. If Trump keeps repeating his failures, the country will continue suffering.

a reply to: andy06shake

Pretty sure that has been provided more than enough times here that I shouldn't need to spoon it to you again. As to your second point...yes...they were very corrupt...but not dumb and inside what became Russia had much more measures of control than the newly freed militaries of the soviet satellites. I honestly would put Iran at the least ahead of Ukraine on the corruption scale...not sure about NK cause well not a lot of info gets out there.

End of the day the lines have been drawn...the west has tried to rule the world and force their forms of government and even culture on the world. It isn't working out so well and eventually if our collective countries push hard enough we will all get to taste the sun...its honestly an excersize in stupidity.

Personally I don't think we have any business in ukraine and we damn sure shouldn't have perpetrated a color revolution and regime change to install western puppets. Was Ukraine in NATO or the EU worth tue level of conflict it has already risen to? And further...the level it appears it could rise to?

Wanna see NATO boots in Ukraine in direct conflict with another nuclear nation...I sure as f#&% don't...

a reply to: RickyD

Pretty sure that's not proof and just another one of your unsubstantiated claims.

Also pretty sure you understand how the burden of proof functions.

And if such has been provided round here, you should be able to point to it without too much trouble.

Ile take that as you simply dont have the goods.

End of the day Russia is in the wrong postcode.

As to what i wish to see, and end to the madness and Russia going back home might be nice.

Pretty sure Mad Vlads is not up for making sense and doing just that all the same.

So what would you like to see?

Ukraine give up and capitulate to Russian scum invaders?

Good luck with that because i think you may find they simply dont want to give in and go home, at least not without keeping their nation and having most of their land returned.

As to your West running the world nonsense.

Grow up and look out a window.

Money and power rule the world and the fact of the matter is that's all over.

People with such dont really give a rats arse about cardinal points on a compass.

The west is simply where you live and places like Saudi Arabia, India, and China, might think rather differently with regard to who rules and where.

The world is a big place RickyD my advice see as much of it as you can as it may add perspective.

originally posted by: cherokeetroy
a reply to: Xtrozero

Biden should have been behind bars a long time ago. Biden never should have been in office in the first place. If Trump would have "drained the swamp" during his first term, the 2020 election wouldn't have been stolen and Biden wouldn't have become President. That was Trump's failure and the country suffered as the result. If Trump keeps repeating his failures, the country will continue suffering.

It's like you haven't a clue what happened during Trump's first term. Not even the republicans would work with him. Everyone was trying to find a way to remove him. Not sure if you ever heard of "Russiagate", but I seem to remember it being a thing.

I was impressed with what he was able to accomplish despite all of the opposition. Good news is, he knows the job and the terrain this time. But I suspect there is nothing he could do to please you.

I was impressed with what he was able to accomplish despite all of the opposition.

a reply to: network dude

Me too! Trump always kept his cool, nobody could have succeeded in that environment-yet he accomplished so much. Then, as we have all witnessed the persecution since Jan 6th 2021 culminating in his re-election as the 47th president was the greatest comeback-not just in politics- but the greatest story of redemption. Trump is a juggernaut. Amazing

originally posted by: RickyD

Wanna see NATO boots in Ukraine in direct conflict with another nuclear nation...I sure as f#&% don't...

I really see Trump as perfect for Ukraine. Putin is neck deep in the sh!t with Ukraine and he needs an out that is also a win. Putin has had 19 or so wars, and with each one, he just walked in hardly firing a bullet rolling tanks down the city centers, and he thought Ukraine would be the same. What he thought would be a month has turned into 3 years with 3+ years to go if even possible. Not only that, but the isolation and sanctions are true killers to Russia as a whole.

What Trump is going to do is tell him he can have Donbas and a land bridge to Crimea, and if he doesn't take it then the might of US airpower will enter the war destroying all his gains. He then will tell Ukraine if they do not take the deal then the US will pull all support. In the end the war will end...

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: RickyD

Wanna see NATO boots in Ukraine in direct conflict with another nuclear nation...I sure as f#&% don't...

What Trump is going to do is tell him he can have Donbas and a land bridge to Crimea, and if he doesn't take it then the might of US airpower will enter the war destroying all his gains. He then will tell Ukraine if they do not take the deal then the US will pull all support. In the end the war will end...

We’ll see. Thing is, if this whole plan is not just a weak sell out bluff by Trump then his going to have to make Russia give back land they have gained during the war. I’m not personally happy about allowing Russia to have there “land bridge”, but regardless, any peace deal only works if Russia is forced to hand back a significant amount of land gained during the war.

a reply to: fringeofthefringe

Why are you still harping on Biden and Harris supporters? It's like 7 weeks to go and they're impact is gone for 4 years. You'll be taxing Canadian maple syrup to counter the fentanyl crisis, deporting criminal Venezuelans, Haitian puppy eaters, banning the woke from society, and screwing Ukraine out of NATO soon enough, no worries.

If you can't be happy in a blowout victory, can you be happy with anything? You get the strong president, a GOP of loyalists, The House, Senate, and Supreme Court, what more could you possibly want?

Every losing administration stops giving a # and goes on vacation. Were they supposed to play golf, file 82 lawsuits against dozens of boogeyman, and say the election was stolen? Drag out their defeat to stay relevant?

There is no reason left to be angry. It should be hope and a mind toward making our lives better. You're making us great again and everyone's live better now, not using the outgoing administration to keep people as pissed off as possible. Never works out well when political parties rally around oppression cards even after gaining total power.

If I could ask a question to these folks (like the rabble rousing and vitriolic contributors of publications like The Gateway Pundit) one question it would be:

originally posted by: JadedGhost

We’ll see. Thing is, if this whole plan is not just a weak sell out bluff by Trump then his going to have to make Russia give back land they have gained during the war. I’m not personally happy about allowing Russia to have there “land bridge”, but regardless, any peace deal only works if Russia is forced to hand back a significant amount of land gained during the war.

Putin will need to give back land. He will win with Donbas alone as that is rich in energy, and the land bridge opens up more of the black sea to him along with a large area directly to Crimea. It's all about how you sell it to the people in Russia. I'm sure they are all asking each other WTF are we doing in Ukraine as 100,000s of them die in the effort.

originally posted by: Degradation33

Why are you still harping on Biden and Harris supporters? It's like 7 weeks to go and they're impact is gone for 4 years. You'll be taxing Canadian maple syrup to counter the fentanyl crisis, deporting criminal Venezuelans, Haitian puppy eaters, banning the woke from society, and screwing Ukraine out of NATO soon enough, no worries.

Even the left knows how bad Harris is no matter how much they hate Trump. The only tariffs that will actually happen are China, and maybe the EU to some degree. Everyone else including Mexico and Canida is going to play nice. One thing the left still seems to not understand after 4 years of seeing it is Trump tends to come off the top rope and then calms down when the actual negotiations happen.

If you can't be happy in a blowout victory, can you be happy with anything? You get the strong president, a GOP of loyalists, The House, Senate, and Supreme Court, what more could you possibly want?

a reply to: Degradation33
I am elated with the electorial landslide coupled with the majority. However, Trump has the house by a hair, the senate is far from bullet proof because there are GOP rinos in the senate. Trump will mostly accomplish his mandates through executive order. The battle is far from over, the next four years Trump needs to go scorched earth on the treasonous democrats-from Jan 6th to the lawfare we all witnessed, even russiagate and crossfirehurricane have not been properly adjudicated. Just lick your wounds and go crawl under a rock, we have work to do.........
this is what MAGA looks like

originally posted by: Degradation33

Why are you still harping on Biden and Harris supporters?

Those supporters will be the hit squads and smear mongers in 2028.

They're already regrouping in their retreats ❗️

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: Degradation33

Why are you still harping on Biden and Harris supporters?

Those supporters will be the hit squads and smear mongers in 2028.

They're already regrouping in their retreats ❗️

But they have no leaders with dignity left to motivate them. All those who pushed drunk Kamala are balled up in a fetal position. Those leaders are no longer revered and respected by (intelligent) liberals.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Degradation33

Why are you still harping on Biden and Harris supporters? It's like 7 weeks to go and they're impact is gone for 4 years. You'll be taxing Canadian maple syrup to counter the fentanyl crisis, deporting criminal Venezuelans, Haitian puppy eaters, banning the woke from society, and screwing Ukraine out of NATO soon enough, no worries.

Even the left knows how bad Harris is no matter how much they hate Trump. The only tariffs that will actually happen are China, and maybe the EU to some degree. Everyone else including Mexico and Canida is going to play nice. One thing the left still seems to not understand after 4 years of seeing it is Trump tends to come off the top rope and then calms down when the actual negotiations happen.

this one tickles me. Everyone seems to be busting blood vessels over Mexico and Canada tariffs, but they don't seem to grasp that they are being used to negotiate, not punish. Unless negotiations fail. We need the two nations to secure their borders as we secure ours. And if they will do that, it will benefit all involved. Trump knows this, which is why he is using tariffs. You would think after all this time, folks would be smart enough to see how he operates. He's been the same guy all his life. He even wrote a book explaining all this.

I'm looking forward to retribution by success. Showing the haters that he isn't going to put them in rail cars and gas them all, but instead, make things work better and smoother for all.

a reply to: Xtrozero

Trump 1.0 revisited won't hurt me. Musk influence bodes well for my crypto holdings anyway, especially The DOGE.

Last time he made a big deal out of trade and then changed NAFTA to USMCA, which I believe just changes the name. Maybe one meaningless part. I didn't like the aluminum tariff war with Canada. Now he's floating 25%? Why? To puff out our chest like an Incel Country?

He's done some concerning things. Like Keith Kellogg as National Security Advisor. If you read between the lines his Russia peace plan involves putting Ukraine NATO membership on indefinite hold, possibly including it. That's kinda what you can parse through his politician double speak.

If so, Putin wins. He wanted Ukraine never to be in NATO. He gets that. Putin has the administration to give him the best ceasefire possible. Makes me wonder how many conservative outlets The Kremlin has ACTUALLY influenced...

For China and tariffs in general.

I'm not looking forward to my electronics going up, China does a lot, and Thailand and Vietnam usually make sub-China quality products. But I also don't want to pay for the American manufacturing and labor markup.

I'm all for hurting China, but at least give Apple a chance to move iPhone manufacturing to Vietnam first. I would not want to have to pay for American labor to make my techno crap. Or any of the other things that would happen with a massive China tariff.

It's fine if you're in the top two tax brackets. But 25% will hurt if it's across the board. 60% to China will really hurt.

The auto industry may hurt the country most under tariffs.

I have a glorified Toyota, and unlike a many Toyotas, it's almost 100% Japanese, even the base model.

Japan does a 4.3% import tariff, so why doesn't Trump just match all foreign countries rates instead? I think that's the thing he's going for anyway. If he's about eye for an eye capitalism, just take an eye. That's 1.39% for Germany, 4.3% for Japan, but 20% from the UK. And no one can feel slighted.

Nice compromise to an all-purpose tariff. My glorified status symbol Toyota is taxed 4.3%. Much better than 20 or 25%.

Automotive is a good thing to look at. The worst off are all the brands most outsourced. Mercedes is as German as T Mobile. An American made Mercedes is 21% American parts, and 79% outsourced. A slightly higher rate than General Motors, which is 70% outsourced.

And while people will love the prospect of manufacturing being persuaded to return to America, the anti-globalist return to as close to 100% domestic is going to cost EVERYONE BUT the top brackets.

The top bracket isn't driving a Ford Fusion EVER, but the brackets that would buy a $23,000 S model Fusion are subject to the 80% of that car that is foreign and get dealt the brunt of the tariff markups impact.

I hope he backs off the 20% or 25%, except China who is 50 or 60%, because that would screw over the middle and lower classes and be far worse than inflation with the most outsourced products.

Which is more than people realize.

a reply to: network dude

Yes I'm aware. Poor, victimized, defenseless Trump got picked on by the Swamp.

But the fact is, he was no stranger to politics, he was no stranger to the people he was up against. He was no stranger to the game. He should have known what to expect. He should have been better prepared. There was nothing stopping him from exposing the Obama/Clinton/Biden crime family syndicate. He made the choice not to. He chose not to declassify. It was a bad choice because it led to the disastrous Biden Presidency. The stolen election is something Trump complains about nonstop all the while refusing to take any responsibility for allowing it to happen by shielding his enemies. Just like he refuses to acknowledge the perils of Operation Warpspeed and the dangers of the vaccine. In hindsight, maybe it wasn't the greatest idea to unleash an experimental gene therapy onto the public creating a nation of lab rats.

The "Father of the Vaccine's" silence about the dead and the injured as he continually sings nothing but praises for the clot shot diminishes his credibility.
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You seem to believe he's learned and he knows the terrain this time and there will be a different outcome but the process of learning requires the essential step of being aware of your own failures and weaknesses. If Trump lacks awareness of his failures, he'll remain stuck in a loop of repeated behavior patterns leading to the same old outcomes.

a reply to: Degradation33

No wonder you're confused. Anyone would be if they were worried about all that jibberish!

Have you contacted The Trump Team about all these concerns and outlined some suggestions? 😀

originally posted by: Degradation33
If so, Putin wins. He wanted Ukraine never to be in NATO. He gets that. Putin has the administration to give him the best ceasefire possible. Makes me wonder how many conservative outlets The Kremlin has ACTUALLY influenced...

Ukraine wasn't on some final decision to join NATO when Putin invaded. I don't think they would be in NATO even today if he didn't.

I'm not looking forward to my electronics going up, China does a lot, and Thailand and Vietnam usually make sub-China quality products. But I also don't want to pay for the American manufacturing and labor markup.

Before China was Korea, and before Korea was Japan. In each case, the cheap labor dried up as the labor force went from dirt poor to middle class and then got too expensive. When that happens industries look to the next "cheap labor" country. China is in its death throws as to cheap labor and they do some unsavory things like steal technology or hold companies ransom for their technology.

It is time for the US manufacturing to move away from China and on to the next area, and tariffs will just excel that move away from China. Business goes the direction of most profit and China was that current for 30 years, and now they are not... Within 1 year they will shift just as they have done in the past.