I thought Trump was the existential threat?

According to the New York Times, US and European officials have discussed a range of options they believe will deter Russia from taking more Ukrainian territory, including providing Kiev with nuclear weapons.

I thought Biden had years of diplomatic and foreign affairs experience? This is the best the Biden regime can muster?

It’s hard to believe you’re the good guys when you are passing out nukes to desperate regimes.

Do the Biden/Harris and the Harris/Walz supporters find themselves scratching their heads? Is this what you were supporting? Do you see now why getting Trump into office was so important? Between the border invasion, the economy and WW||| anyone supporting Biden/Harris needs to go sit at the kids table for Thanksgiving. And I heard the legacy media is asking were is Trump's press conference, wow, does anyone in the media want to hold the current administration accountable? Why isn't Biden holding a press conference and does Kamala have the audacity to go to Hawaii for a vacation at this time?
Just WOW!!
God help us

originally posted by: fringeofthefringe

According to the New York Times, US and European officials have discussed a range of options they believe will deter Russia from taking more Ukrainian territory, including providing Kiev with nuclear weapons.

I thought Biden had years of diplomatic and foreign affairs experience? This is the best the Biden regime can muster?

It’s hard to believe you’re the good guys when you are passing out nukes to desperate regimes.

Do the Biden/Harris and the Harris/Walz supporters find themselves scratching their heads? Is this what you were supporting? Do you see now why getting Trump into office was so important? Between the border invasion, the economy and WW||| anyone supporting Biden/Harris needs to go sit at the kids table for Thanksgiving. And I heard the legacy media is asking were is Trump's press conference, wow, does anyone in the media want to hold the current administration accountable? Why isn't Biden holding a press conference and does Kamala have the audacity to go to Hawaii for a vacation at this time?
Just WOW!!
God help us

Biden administration did hard work painting that Ukraine is some puppy holding unicorn with Zelensky.

The fact is, it’s a corrupt regime that has a history of corrupt government officials and defense ministers who have been rain sacking millions and reselling our military aid and supplies.

We all saw Biden doing this before Trump gets into office.

January 20th can’t come soon enough.

And now let us pray....

They never did understand or even know the true reasons for that war (or why Obama allowed Crimea to go back into Russian hands). 🍌

It'll be a good discussion if anybody ever decides to start. 😀

a reply to: fringeofthefringe

Trump is going to love Russia giving away nuclear technology to the likes of the Iranians and North Koreans.

So there is that.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: fringeofthefringe

Trump is going to love Russia giving away nuclear technology to the likes of the Iranians and North Koreans.

So there is that.

What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: fringeofthefringe

Trump is going to love Russia giving away nuclear technology to the likes of the Iranians and North Koreans.

So there is that.

You think they haven't done that yet? 😁

a reply to: Dalamax

You wish to see the likes of Iran or North Korea with functional modern Nukes Dalamax?

That's like giving a child a box of matches and a can of paraffin to play with by my guess.

Sounds like a bad idea by my guess.

a reply to: fringeofthefringe

It occurred to me this morning while watching a documentary called prophecy of the popes that we are always trying to make better, more deadly ways to kill each other. Why does that seem to be our driving ambition rather than all the many other problems going on in the world. Famine. Unclean drinking water, abject poverty and homelessness.

Oh right. Helping people live better lives doesn't make trillions of dollars for the military industrial complex and foster distrust of our fellow man. I forgot.

a reply to: xuenchen

Hope would be a better word xuenchen.

I mean it's a terrible idea by my guess.

And i think most sane people would agree, and even a few lunatics may raise an eyebrow at those kinds of nefarious shenanigans.

a reply to: Shoshanna

It occurred to me this morning while watching a documentary called prophecy of the popes that we are always trying to make better, more deadly ways to kill each other.

Thats spot on Shoshanna and kind of part and parcel of the paradigm humanity has followed throughout recorded history.

Does wonders for technological advancements but not so much for people.

That being said think about what we could have achieved with a couple of 1000 years of peace on earth, both spiritually and technology-wise?

Guess we will never know the way we are going.

a reply to: fringeofthefringe

There is nothing in that article that says that anyone is actually providing Ukraine with nukes.

But The Russian Federation is nuclear armed, so it is reasonable that there would be discussion of nuclear weapons and possible deterrents in high level talks.

And Putin has directly suggested that it will use the nuclear option against Ukraine and NATO if pushed to it.

Part of Russia's strategy has been brinkmanship.

originally posted by: xuenchen
They never did understand or even know the true reasons for that war (or why Obama allowed Crimea to go back into Russian hands). 🍌

It'll be a good discussion if anybody ever decides to start. 😀

When an enemy nation (Russia) attacks and annexes an (at the time) unallied nation (Ukraine), you can't really assign blame to the USA.

You seem to think they are/were both under US control.

And it seems that many have forgotten that Russia is the aggressor, they attacked Ukraine when Ukraine was not attacking Russia.

originally posted by: Shoshanna
a reply to: fringeofthefringe

It occurred to me this morning while watching a documentary called prophecy of the popes that we are always trying to make better, more deadly ways to kill each other. Why does that seem to be our driving ambition rather than all the many other problems going on in the world. Famine. Unclean drinking water, abject poverty and homelessness.

Oh right. Helping people live better lives doesn't make trillions of dollars for the military industrial complex and foster distrust of our fellow man. I forgot.

Its because we are apex predators-look at the history of humans-we have stomped,subjugated,tortured,slughtered,eaten everything that has ever got in our way as a species,including membes of our own and all of the rest of nature.

What we today know as greed is something which helped us survive near extinction events by fighting for and hoarding resources to the detriment of everthing else.
That part of our nature is now exploited by mega rich elites and corporations to make them even more mega rich.

Humans didn't get to be the top creature on our planet by being nice sadly.

Individuals can be kind and generous-but collectivley we are more like "the flood" from Halo,or "the borg" from star trek.

Its a very unpalatable truth that many flat out refuse to even think about,and maybe the reason any other intelligent life in the universe tries to hide from us or at least keep their distance.

Why not? It’s the same as giving nukes to Zelinsky.

Again, what’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

a reply to: andy06shake

Part of Russia's strategy has been brinkmanship.

a reply to: chr0naut

So Biden-touted for his foreign policy expertise spanning six decades- has, in the eleventh hour of his failed presidency, with a smooth transfer of power at hand, Biden has decided to play nuclear brinksmanship with Russia all while Kamala is enjoying a "much deserved?" vacation. Just pathetic. Not the statesman we were told he is and today the legacy media is content with covering Joe pardoning a couple turkey's...no Hunter was not one of them.

a reply to: Dalamax

I think you may find that Ukraine used to have the 3rd largest nuclear arsenal on earth before they chose to give them up in good faith.

To be honest through, i dont think giving Ukraine the likes of nukes to play with would be a good idea given the predicament in which they find themselves.

Because they may be apt to use them.

That is not what is happening through, and would only lead to further madness as i have already suggested.

Again, and as any good parent knows, giving children matches to play with is a terrible idea.

Especially if the child also happens to be a religious maniac with an agenda to satisfy.

originally posted by: fringeofthefringe

Part of Russia's strategy has been brinkmanship.

a reply to: chr0naut

So Biden-touted for his foreign policy expertise spanning six decades- has, in the eleventh hour of his failed presidency, with a smooth transfer of power at hand, Biden has decided to play nuclear brinksmanship with Russia all while Kamala is enjoying a "much deserved?" vacation. Just pathetic. Not the statesman we were told he is and today the legacy media is content with covering Joe pardoning a couple turkey's...no Hunter was not one of them.

Isn't it funny how Gateway Pundit is supportive to a regime that is a stated enemy of the USA and of the NATO countries. It's like they have been actually 5th column traitors to the USA.

In the quoted article from 'Antiwar' there is no mention of Biden at all. But it's a bit hard to know who said what because Gateway Pundit quotes snippets from numerous sources so it can spin its anti-American subversiveness.

In fact, Russia poses a nuclear threat, and not only to the Ukraine, and has provided nuclear weapons and delivery systems to other countries. Are NATO, Ukraine and the USA to just roll over and submit to the threats explicitly given by Putin?

Thousands of nuclear arms had been left on Ukrainian soil by Moscow after the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991. But in the years that followed, Ukraine made the decision to completely denuclearize.

In exchange, the U.S., the U.K. and Russia would guarantee Ukraine's security in a 1994 agreement known as the Budapest Memorandum.

source is soon to be defunded

Ukraine became a deep state cesspool.

The Pentagon said on Thursday that it has operated 46 biolabs in Ukraine handling dangerous pathogens, after previously dismissing the charges as Russian propaganda.

some here seem to be unaware of this

Let's just send more weapons, pay government salaries and money to buy munitions. What could go wrong?

a reply to: chr0naut

In the quoted article from 'Antiwar' there is no mention of Biden at all.

It's in the last sentence. Doesn't say who, where, or in what context.

“Several officials even suggested that Mr. Biden could return nuclear weapons to Ukraine that were taken from it after the fall of the Soviet Union.”

Besides that, we were given to understand that the former nuke arsenal of Ukraine have long been dismantled.