Well, here we go red lines crossed Biden gives the go ahead to use long range missiles

a reply to: Ravenwatcher

UK and France are talking about boots on the ground.....

I think France has not ruled out the possibility but I haven't heard any serious suggestion here in the UK.
If it was I don't think it would get much support at all.
I can't see it happening, not in the foreseeable future....there would have to be a real live threat to a NATO country and let's face it, from what we now know of Russia's fighting capability unless they use nuclear weapons they pose no threat....maybe a threat to nations like Moldova, but not NATO.

And that is all down to the fighting spirit of the Ukrainian people and the aid they have received from 'The West'.

....and talks of giving Ukraine a Nuke

Is there?
From who?
I don't think any sane person would support that at this point.

originally posted by: cherokeetroy

Since Joe Biden gave his blessings to escalating U.S. involvement last week, Ukraine has launched rockets into Russia 3 times.

The third barrage came today: www.thegatewaypundit.com...

From what I've read, Ukraine military personnel don't have the training to launch these sophisticated missiles at specific targets. The launching, targeting, guidance is being handled by AMERICANS, or NATO personnel.

If Vladimir Putin loses his cool and launches weapons that start WWIII, it will be too late (and pointless) for us to complain about Joe Biden's stupidity and callousness.

Something needs to be done NOW. Since removing Biden from office probably won't change anything at this point, the preference is to keep Vladimir Putin from striking the nations who are supplying these weapons and people for bombing targets inside of Russia.

a reply to: WeMustCare

It looks like the latest missiles, have hit a command Centre in Rostov on Don , the place that coordinates the attacks in the theatre. There is also an emergency meeting of NATO chiefs tomorrow, regarding the use of the short range ballistic missile by Russia.

originally posted by: annonentity
a reply to: WeMustCare

It looks like the latest missiles, have hit a command Centre in Rostov on Don , the place that coordinates the attacks in the theatre. There is also an emergency meeting of NATO chiefs tomorrow, regarding the use of the short range ballistic missile by Russia.

Do you think its true that if America stops helping Zelenskyy, the European countries will stop helping him fight Russia and tell him to let Vladimir have what he wants? Some analysts are saying that is what's going to happen in 55 days or so.

originally posted by: WeMustCare

originally posted by: cherokeetroy

Since Joe Biden gave his blessings to escalating U.S. involvement last week, Ukraine has launched rockets into Russia 3 times.

The third barrage came today: www.thegatewaypundit.com...

From what I've read, Ukraine military personnel don't have the training to launch these sophisticated missiles at specific targets. The launching, targeting, guidance is being handled by AMERICANS, or NATO personnel.

If Vladimir Putin loses his cool and launches weapons that start WWIII, it will be too late (and pointless) for us to complain about Joe Biden's stupidity and callousness.

Something needs to be done NOW. Since removing Biden from office probably won't change anything at this point, the preference is to keep Vladimir Putin from striking the nations who are supplying these weapons and people for bombing targets inside of Russia.

If Biden were removed somehow (unlikely) that means Harris would become president. If tensions escalate further (WW3), she would remain in charge. And no Trump.

That’s a double ‘SHTF’ situation lol that none of us with any logic wants.

A nightmare scenario that would rival any nuclear apocalypse movie or fallout game.

Harris cackles echoing around while you trek dehydrated through the mountains in South America, with a glowing radioactive haze on the horizon. Hearing a faint Trump “we would have made America great again” hallucination.

Sad.

a reply to: WeMustCare

I do not think so. On the surface it looks like it is to protect the dollar, at a deeper level it is to protect the Rothchild banking system. If the dollar goes so does the ability of the USA /Israel control system collapse. If the USA and NATO win then it has Russia to exploit like a new found planet . If Russia win the people that caused it will be citizens of neutral countries and out of the new system with plenty of their assets in Gold . It appears NATO is prepared to fight a limited nuclear war using Ukraine as a proxy. It will get more messy in my opinion and Trump wont make a difference.

I don't know where anyone is getting the idea that the UK is considering sending troops to Ukraine, it's absolute nonsense.
If anyone has any reliable sources please provide them.

And it's an even more ridiculous claim to suggest anyone is thinking about supplying Ukraine with nuclear weapons.

Seems to me to be a desperate attempt to scaremonger and justify support for and submission to Putin.

a reply to: Freeborn

The same place where they are getting the idea America is going to give Uklarine nukes i should imagine.

Just daft people talking out their @rse.

a reply to: Tolkien

I dont think god has much to do with it Tolkien.

Mate, you are the one calling people you obviously dont like "savages".

When history clearly illustrates a lot of the poor sods are anything but, which could indeed be interpreted to sound rather racist.

As to the woman card you are playing, well they are property of the state in the USA, or at least their wombs now are.

Then there is the problem you have where child marriage is concerned which continues to persist.

People in glass houses Tolkien.

As to capital punishment, killing people is killing people, there is no real humane way to do that by my guess.

I dont know how i feel about that, given the things some people can do to one another, but i certainly would not call it humane, possibly necessary in some instances all the same.

originally posted by: Ravenwatcher

War is not lost Russia has lost many more soldiers MANY and had to bring in North Koreans unless he gets another up of North Korean soldiers it's over I'm surprised that Poland isn't swimming in NK defectors. Russia needs to bow out save some pride claim a victory and move on ,

I think I read several times they are losing 6 to 1, and recently it could be much higher, so we are talking 1000s per day. They are also enlisting people in their 50s too. They promise big money for 4 months and then keep them there until they die. They do have a much larger population, but holy crap they have no problem losing in one day what we lost in 20 years.

originally posted by: andy06shake

As to the woman card you are playing, well they are property of the state in the USA, or at least their wombs now are.

The election is over so you can put this dead horse back in the closet for another 4 years when you can dust it off and try it again.

originally posted by: annonentity
If Russia win the people that caused it will be citizens of neutral countries and out of the new system with plenty of their assets in Gold . It appears NATO is prepared to fight a limited nuclear war using Ukraine as a proxy. It will get more messy in my opinion and Trump wont make a difference.

The dollar has a long way to go before it isn't the world currency. As to that neutral country, the last time they controlled Ukraine they killed off 1/3 of the population and put 100,000s in concentration camps. Seems like they have no problem doing that again in their path of total destruction.

a reply to: Xtrozero

Facts are hardly a dead horse Xtrozero, elections or otherwise.

Roe v Wade was overturned, giving the power to decide abortion rights to 50 states.

Again just a fact.

originally posted by: WeMustCare

originally posted by: annonentity
a reply to: WeMustCare

It looks like the latest missiles, have hit a command Centre in Rostov on Don , the place that coordinates the attacks in the theatre. There is also an emergency meeting of NATO chiefs tomorrow, regarding the use of the short range ballistic missile by Russia.

Do you think its true that if America stops helping Zelenskyy, the European countries will stop helping him fight Russia and tell him to let Vladimir have what he wants? Some analysts are saying that is what's going to happen in 55 days or so.

Which analyst(s) has claimed that as it's the polar opposite of what any politician or military/defence have claimed in Europe in recent weeks? All have gone on record since the US election to reaasert unwavering support for Ukraine and are increasing spending and weapons production for Ukraine and national defences with European NATO members setting the bar at 3 - 4% GDP and setp up the new European Defence Alliance as Trump is expected to greatly reduce or potentially totally cut off support for Ukraine and weaken defensive/political alliance with Europe..