Well, here we go red lines crossed Biden gives the go ahead to use long range missiles

originally posted by: andy06shake

Trump was all for the vaccine Xtrozero.

I'm for the vaccine too, as with Trump who pushed it "warp Speed" to get it out to the very old and high-risk who were getting hit hard. Trump did very well in that area, and then the liberals made it mandated for all which was a very bad thing to do, and totally ignored the "my body my choice" that your abortion peps scream all the time.

Chemo is good too in fighting cancer, but I wouldn't tell everyone to do it no matter what, whether you have cancer or not...lol geez

a reply to: Xtrozero

And they dont tell everyone to do Chemo nether, so there is that.

LoL geez.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Tolkien

I dont think god has much to do with it Tolkien.

Mate, you are the one calling people you obviously dont like "savages".

When history clearly illustrates a lot of the poor sods are anything but, which could indeed be interpreted to sound rather racist.

As to the woman card you are playing, well they are property of the state in the USA, or at least their wombs now are.

Then there is the problem you have where child marriage is concerned which continues to persist.

People in glass houses Tolkien.

As to capital punishment, killing people is killing people, there is no real humane way to do that by my guess.

I dont know how i feel about that, given the things some people can do to one another, but i certainly would not call it humane, possibly necessary in some instances all the same.

Fail again.
Your race card has again been declined.
Many Afghans could pass for European with their light skin and light eyes, like the famous 1984 National Geographic photo of Sharbat Gulat

Savage is an antonym of civilized and it is appropriate.

And NO ! All execution methods are NOT the same.
Being burned at the stake while conscious and alive is "savage" (we don't do it anymore).
And far more cruel and painful than modern "lethal injection" which is painless and quick

a reply to: Tolkien

Yeah im failing.

You're entitled to your opinions.

But that's what they are.

As to how they sound...................

Fail would be my guess.

And how do you know the modern "lethal injection" is painless?

Loads of people come back from beyond the grave to tell you so?

Opps "Fail".

Can lethal injections fail?
Yes – lethal injections can fail.

Lethal injections are more likely to go wrong than any other execution method. And when an execution is ‘botched’ it results in tortuous pain. Judges have compared it to “waterboarding” and being “burned at the stake”.

To date, six people have survived lethal injections, one as recently as February 2024.
Three of these executions took place in the state of Alabama.

One of them was Kenneth Smith. Kenneth Smith survived a traumatic hours-long lethal injection attempt in November 2022. After the failed attempt, he was simply returned to his cell on death row.

On 26th January 2024, Kenneth Smith was executed by the state of Alabama using nitrogen gas. Like lethal injection, the new method of nitrogen hypoxia has been dressed up as being more humane on without any evidence or testing. And like lethal injection executions, it proved to be anything but humane.

Where they have failed, the perps dont look to be too chuffed.

reprieve.org...
www.theguardian.com...
apnews.com...
www.bbc.co.uk...

Anyhoo back on topic is probably for the best.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Tolkien

Yeah im failing.

You're entitled to your opinions.

But that's what they are.

As to how they sound...................

Fail would be my guess.

And how do you know the modern "lethal injection" is painless?

Loads of people come back from beyond the grave to tell you so?

Opps "Fail".

Can lethal injections fail?
Yes – lethal injections can fail.

Lethal injections are more likely to go wrong than any other execution method. And when an execution is ‘botched’ it results in tortuous pain. Judges have compared it to “waterboarding” and being “burned at the stake”.

To date, six people have survived lethal injections, one as recently as February 2024.
Three of these executions took place in the state of Alabama.

One of them was Kenneth Smith. Kenneth Smith survived a traumatic hours-long lethal injection attempt in November 2022. After the failed attempt, he was simply returned to his cell on death row.

On 26th January 2024, Kenneth Smith was executed by the state of Alabama using nitrogen gas. Like lethal injection, the new method of nitrogen hypoxia has been dressed up as being more humane on without any evidence or testing. And like lethal injection executions, it proved to be anything but humane.

Where they have failed, the perps dont look to be too chuffed.

reprieve.org...

Because Medical Assistance In Dying (MAID) used for assisted suicide in Canada and Europe uses the exact same protocols to assist terminal patients that request it as is used in US prisons.

If you were able to think for a few seconds, you would realize quickly that this technique, which uses sedatives to make you unconcious, IS painless and quick and much more humane than dying slowly and painfully while primitives throw rocks at you.

Yes.
I am calling the Taliban "primitives"
Again.
Because by their actions, they are

But hey.
Gotta keep up the woke and virtue signalling, actual facts be damned......

a reply to: Tolkien

Mate those articles blow your claim of modern "lethal injections" being painless out of the water.

Sorry.

It's not me that has an issue with rational thought methinks or the one making outlandish nonsensical claims.

As to what you choose to call the Taliban, ok, but do you remember when you were arming their predecessors with Stinger missiles to do your bidding?

And i dont even necessarily disagree with calling a terrorist organization such.

But then then they were allies.

Pieces on a game board change and so do definitions.

Actions indeed and all that jazz.

As to keeping up i suggest you do so with the actual facts.

Have a nice night, i need to go walk the dogs.

originally posted by: andy06shake

And they dont tell everyone to do Chemo nether, so there is that.

LoL geez.

My point is whether you think forcing everyone to take chemo is a good or bad decision.

a reply to: Xtrozero

I dont think forcing anybody to do anything is a good idea.

Mainly down to the fact that you're apt to catch more flies with honey than Vinegar.

And nobody forced me or mine to do anything we did not wish.

See if "They" had wanted to "force" people to take the vaccine, they would have told people they could not have it.

And that is how the world spins.

Anyhoo really need to take these dogs out have fun.

a reply to: annonentity

A confusing mess indeed.

By all accounts a complete and utter s@it show.

Where i hail from annonentity if it did go full-on nuclear exchange, it's apt to be over in microseconds anyway, which would be a small mercy really.

Then, about 50 minutes later, if that, our subs would mass launch SLBMs and return the favour.

As to what to look for if its a flash on the horizon, it probably be the last thing you ever see.

Sounds terrifying but we have already done the 1980s so.....................

a reply to: WeMustCare

If Vladimir Putin loses his cool and launches weapons that start WWIII, it will be too late (and pointless) for us to complain about Joe Biden's stupidity and callousness.

So, according to you; Putin loses his cool, starts throwing nuclear weapons around willy nilly and starts WWIII.....but it's all Biden's fault?

I get that you don't like Biden - not many people do - but I really don't follow that logic or reasoning.

a reply to: annonentity

It appears NATO is prepared to fight a limited nuclear war using Ukraine as a proxy.

What on earth makes you think that?
The only country threatening the use of nuclear weapons is Russia.

NATO has a history of hostility and encroachment dating back to the Bill Clinton era in the ’90s.

For example, NATO backed and allowed Croatia to annex Krajina during the Yugoslav Wars, and soon after, brought Croatia into NATO.

Genocide was confirmed and documented by the notorious Croatian Ustashi, that was largely overlooked by the media, which focused on Serbia. Meanwhile, Serbia’s territory was gradually eroded under Clinton and drunken Yeltsin.

Additionally, NATO established permanent bases across the Balkans after the conflict.

Putin witnessed this under the leadership of the drunken Yeltsin, whom Bill Clinton had a particular influence over. Yeltsin pouted, but that was about it. Then, enters Putin.

Fast forward to 2014 Maidan coup in Ukraine.

You had clear documentation of a creature that’s looks akin to a mutated Owl, Victoria Nuland (ISW institute study of war is connected to her and her husband as being one of the Co-founders along with other related family members) being neck deep in Ukraine during the Maidan coup.

Such reporting is unsurprising when we consider the specific nature of ISW as a think tank. Funded by important military contractors in America’s military industrial complex such as General Dynamics, DynCorps International, and CACI International, ISW is also a creation of the “Kagan industrial complex.” It was founded by Kimberly Kagan, the wife of military historian Frederick Kagan, who in turn is the brother of Robert Kagan — co-founder of the infamous neo-conservative think tank the Project for a New American Century. It would be remiss not to mention that Robert Kagan is married to none other than Victoria Nuland, who was until recently heading up the U.S. State Department’s policy on Ukraine and Europe.

responsiblestatecraft.org...

Not to mention, Hunter Biden was in Ukraine with Burisma at the time while his father Joe was Vice President under Obama.

There were definitely hands in the cookie jar, and it wasn’t just Russia’s.

a reply to: Freeborn

It's in this interview with a guy that knows his stuff. Who thinks that the USA and the UK have gone insane.A senile president and a BlackRock stooge completely out of touch with reality. Which makes a chilling conclusion.

originally posted by: Tolkien
I am calling the Taliban "primitives"
Again.
Because by their actions, they are

You know, our civilized life is only based on our reality that is created by a thin bubble of an easy life. I have joked many times that all the vegetarians in LA would become cannibals within a month or two if we were hit by a massive EMP. More people in the world live your "primitive" life than not.

originally posted by: annonentity
BlackRock stooge

Who is that?

a reply to: Xtrozero

The UK PM.

a reply to: Xtrozero

I agree with that.

Take away all the lovely toys and luxuries and technology that make us think we are so special.

And underneath you find the apex predator that we really are.

originally posted by: andy06shake

And underneath you find the apex predator that we really are.

But but we are so nice...well until we are not so nice anymore... Read my foot notes...

a reply to: Xtrozero

Certainly not nice when you take away our safety guards and rules.

The truth is after that, its simply survival of the fittest.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Xtrozero

I agree with that.

Take away all the lovely toys and luxuries and technology that make us think we are so special.

And underneath you find the apex predator that we really are.

I would say our ability to make and utilise toys is what makes humans an apex predator.

Ever seen a chimpanzee fight a man? That chimp is going to eat Arnie alive. Quite possibly literally and in reality without too much difficulty.

Humans are dangerous because of our ability to wilfully dominate and collaboratively engineer our environment to facilitate that end.

It’s our toys that enable us and cooperation that allow us to produce those tools. Division is such an important aspect of our governance for this reason, socialise the loses, privatise the profits.