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WATCH LIVE: US Congress hearing on UFOs, unidentified anomalous phenomena

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posted on Nov, 13 2024 @ 09:19 AM
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Witnesses opening statements

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Hearing Date: November 13, 2024 11:30 am
2154 Rayburn House Office Building
Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth
Subject
Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth
Date
November 13, 2024
Time
11:30 am
Place
2154 Rayburn House Office Building
Cybersecurity, Information Technology, and Government Innovation
National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs




Scheduled for Nov 13, 2024 #uap #houseofrepresentatives #politics
The US House of Representatives' Committee on Oversight and Accountability hears from witnesses including former counterintelligence officer Luis Elizondo on unidentified anomalous phenomena and information that should be made available to the public as a matter of national security.

The hearing is scheduled to begin at 11:30am ET.





posted on Nov, 13 2024 @ 09:28 AM
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a reply to: putnam6

My guess would be this will be a nothing-burger.



posted on Nov, 13 2024 @ 09:36 AM
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a reply to: putnam6

From the man who will be the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), just over 2 months from now.

JOHN RATCLIFFE on UFOs: www.abovetopsecret.com...

He will be as "open" as his boss (President Trump) will allow him to be.




posted on Nov, 13 2024 @ 09:48 AM
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I want to hear more about the "non human intelligence"
But I am guessing they are going to try to play it down and say it may be a foriegn A.I.
Which I highly doubt as its been going on since pre Biblical times.

I hope we will get a bit more than "We don't really know what it is and we don't have any crashed alien tech or bodies,honest."

I bet they deny Immaculate constellation exists too.




posted on Nov, 13 2024 @ 09:53 AM
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originally posted by: Cvastar
a reply to: putnam6

My guess would be this will be a nothing-burger.


OK...

I expect the CEOs of Lockheed Martin and Raytheon to fly in on thier reverse engineered UAPs and drop off the NHI for questioning



posted on Nov, 13 2024 @ 10:10 AM
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originally posted by: onestonemonkey
a reply to: putnam6
I want to hear more about the "non human intelligence"
But I am guessing they are going to try to play it down and say it may be a foriegn A.I.
Which I highly doubt as its been going on since pre Biblical times.

I hope we will get a bit more than "We don't really know what it is and we don't have any crashed alien tech or bodies,honest."

I bet they deny the Immaculate constellation exists too.



Who knows but supposedly allegedly Gallaudet will discuss a nuclear submarine being followed by a USO that could do manoeuvers that known human tech cannot duplicate.

or the GIANT UAP that materialized over one of our aircraft carriers

Ive never heard these stories and along with Immaculate Constellation, all could be true or could be disinformation and anywhere in between.



posted on Nov, 13 2024 @ 10:17 AM
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It would be great to hear more about USO's,maybe some more info on the suspected base off the coast of Cali/Mex.

Also,imagine if Biden told them "Just release everthing!" so he could take the credit instead of Trump,who we are told wants to tell the truth on the subject.

Its a stretch,but who knows how(or if) Joes mind works these days.





posted on Nov, 13 2024 @ 10:24 AM
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originally posted by: onestonemonkey
a reply to: putnam6
It would be great to hear more about USO's,maybe some more info on the suspected base off the coast of Cali/Mex.

Also,imagine if Biden told them "Just release everthing!" so he could take the credit instead of Trump,who we are told wants to tell the truth on the subject.

Its a stretch,but who knows how(or if) Joes mind works these days.




LOL, I don't know but it's one of the reasons I joined ATS way back when, NGL discussing elsewhere is difficult to do. At least here I know people know the basics...

Could be just a bunch of people covering thier azzes but it feels different...

who knows perhaps they will drop some nuggets to get the public's mind off of other issues.

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posted on Nov, 13 2024 @ 11:41 AM
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It's tic tac UAP, not TIK TOK you dumbazz

Chairman GROTHMAN



posted on Nov, 13 2024 @ 11:52 AM
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Maybe a closed door secession revealed they both have ties to China.



posted on Nov, 13 2024 @ 12:04 PM
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originally posted by: Lazy88
a reply to: putnam6

Maybe a closed door secession revealed they both have ties to China.



err Grothman is just a dumbazz politician and not's plug into the verbiage

FWIW 2 witnesses Galludet Elizondo included said probably NHI 2 the other 2 not sure

but still deeking around whistleblower protection, definitely some slow-motion legislative BS going on

Elizondo says there are non-human biologics since before he joined the service

Mr Timmons who is Air Force wants to know is it China or NHI too.

My only concerns about saying it's China it gives the DoD carte blanche to classify as National Security issue
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posted on Nov, 13 2024 @ 12:26 PM
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All four witnesses did confirm that the military/dark programs are definitely hiding something. And government entities are intimidating/illegally coercing/character assassinating people into silences instead of just using normal lawful means to have people stick to classification as required.

I liked they mentioned over classification is rot that has permeated all levels and departments of government. Added. And needs dealt with.
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posted on Nov, 13 2024 @ 12:39 PM
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originally posted by: Lazy88
a reply to: putnam6

All four witnesses did confirm that the military/dark programs are definitely hiding something. And government entities are intimidating/illegally coercing/character assassinating people into silences instead of just using normal lawful means to have people stick to classification as required.

I liked they mentioned over classification is rot that has permeated all levels and departments of government. Added. And needs dealt with.


Thats the runaround part of this chit that irks the hell out of me, and FWIW Above Top Secret came to that conclusion easily before 2000...



posted on Nov, 13 2024 @ 12:48 PM
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Well I'll have to go back and watch or sometimes it's better for me to read the transcript, but it seems like slowly inching forward...

I prescribe to the theory multiple countries have knowledge but none have control beyond marginal exploitation of the recovered tech.




This was the most important part to me so far...

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Rebecca Collins (the real one)
@RealOneRebecca
๐ŸšจJUST NOW in Congressional hearing on reports of UAPโ€™s:
๐‘๐ž๐ฉ. ๐†๐š๐ซ๐œ๐ข๐š (๐‚๐€): โ€œDo you believe, just for the record, that the federal government, any part of the federal government, is knowingly concealing evidence about UAPโ€™s from the public?โ€
๐ƒ๐ซ. ๐†๐š๐ฅ๐ฅ๐š๐ฎ๐๐ž๐ญ: โ€œYes sir.โ€
๐Œ๐ซ. ๐„๐ฅ๐ข๐ณ๐จ๐ง๐๐จ: โ€œ100%โ€
๐Œ๐ซ. ๐’๐ก๐ž๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ž๐ง๐›๐ž๐ซ๐ ๐ž๐ซ: โ€œYes.โ€
๐Œ๐ซ. ๐†๐จ๐ฎ๐ฅ๐: โ€œYes.โ€

๐‘๐ž๐ฉ. ๐†๐š๐ซ๐œ๐ข๐š (๐‚๐€): โ€œOK, down the line, for the record again, just briefly, what do you believe UAPโ€™s could be or are?โ€
๐ƒ๐ซ. ๐†๐š๐ฅ๐ฅ๐š๐ฎ๐๐ž๐ญ: โ€œStrong evidence that they are non-human higher intelligence.โ€
๐Œ๐ซ. ๐„๐ฅ๐ข๐ณ๐จ๐ง๐๐จ: โ€œI echo my colleagues comments, sir.โ€
๐Œ๐ซ. ๐’๐ก๐ž๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ž๐ง๐›๐ž๐ซ๐ ๐ž๐ซ: โ€œI genuinely do not know.โ€
๐Œ๐ซ. ๐†๐จ๐ฎ๐ฅ๐: โ€œDonโ€™t know, but we must find out.โ€





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posted on Nov, 13 2024 @ 12:56 PM
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originally posted by: putnam6

Thats the runaround part of this chit that irks the hell out of me, and FWIW Above Top Secret came to that conclusion easily before 2000...



Then why bother with the hearings. If you already know, why do you have any interest into todayโ€™s hearing.

I donโ€™t need the government or congress to tell me what to believe. But this type of bipartisan hearing is what is needed to drive change in the government. Along with true sentiment from a majority of citizens. From actual scientific research and evidence.


Ufologists driven to make profit to a target audience isnโ€™t progress. I hope all four witnesses in todayโ€™s hearing are credible. But isnโ€™t one witness making profit on their on book on UAPโ€™s.



posted on Nov, 13 2024 @ 01:20 PM
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In fact. Isnโ€™t the hearings about not letting the military/dark programs control the UAP narrative. Investing trust in open credible civilian research. Thatโ€™s what you want, right?
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posted on Nov, 13 2024 @ 01:23 PM
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Funny, when I pointed out โ€œAll four witnesses did confirm that the military/dark programs are definitely hiding somethingโ€ in a concise manner before your post,

You postedโ€ฆ


originally posted by: putnam6

Thats the runaround part of this chit that irks the hell out of me, and FWIW Above Top Secret came to that conclusion easily before 2000...


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posted on Nov, 13 2024 @ 01:25 PM
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originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: putnam6

Thats the runaround part of this chit that irks the hell out of me, and FWIW Above Top Secret came to that conclusion easily before 2000...



Then why bother with the hearings. If you already know, why do you have any interest into todayโ€™s hearing.

I donโ€™t need the government or congress to tell me what to believe. But this type of bipartisan hearing is what is needed to drive change in the government. Along with true sentiment from a majority of citizens. From actual scientific research and evidence.


Ufologists driven to make profit to a target audience isnโ€™t progress. I hope all four witnesses in todayโ€™s hearing are credible. But isnโ€™t one witness making profit on their on book on UAPโ€™s.





Yay! Discussing my rationale for being interested in the UFO topic(for the hundredth time) a topic that has intrigued me since reading about the UFO in Pascagoula in the 70s on a forum where the topic has been entrenched under its umbrella of topics covered since its inception no less...

As if we are no longer discussing UAPs, UFOs, and USOs on ATS hopefully a mod will wander by and drop one of these



I also know this is how our government works, slowly and haltingly, It's the nature of the beast, and in a country of 330 million plus of diverse and somewhat divided opinions, it's probably the best speed and course. Because any sudden declarations, actions, and revelations would likely set a large portion of emotionally fragile persons off.

see the recent election responses...

The above hypothesis doesn't mean I need the government for anything at all, BUT it would be ignorant AF to not listen to such hearings and try and glean any information or I can just beat my chest and declare " I don't need the government to tell me what to think" as some will.



posted on Nov, 13 2024 @ 01:38 PM
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originally posted by: Lazy88
a reply to: putnam6

In fact. Isnโ€™t the hearings about not letting the military/dark programs control the UAP narrative? Investing trust in open credible civilian research. Thatโ€™s what you want, right?


I don't where you're pulling that assessment from but it's so far away from my thoughts on this subject, we probably should move to the Mindreading and Psychic Premonitions folder.





posted on Nov, 13 2024 @ 02:17 PM
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Michael Shellenberger

@shellenberger
IMMACULATE CONSTELLATION - Report on the US governmentโ€™s secret UAP (UFO) program

From a whistleblower and released today by
@NancyMace
and discussed in todayโ€™s Congressional hearing

FULL REPORT

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