Abortion Funds Are In ‘A State Of Emergency’

a reply to: Annee

More or more reported....what does that even mean? Google is your friend here.

Private discussion and now is everyone's business???? Yeah, when they put on the pussy hats, yelled not my president and then Kamala had the Abortion bus at the Democratic National Convention. Think about that...no funding but they gave free abortions during a National Convention.

The topic of this thread is abortion funds a in a state of emergency.

If they have been banned and no one can get them then why are there more abortions?

Funds have not dried up.
Abortion is not illegal.

End of discussion.

originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: Annee

More or more reported....what does that even mean? Google is your friend here.

Private discussion and now is everyone's business???? Yeah, when they put on the pussy hats, yelled not my president and then Kamala had the Abortion bus at the Democratic National Convention. Think about that...no funding but they gave free abortions during a National Convention.

The topic of this thread is abortion funds a in a state of emergency.

If they have been banned and no one can get them then why are there more abortions?

Funds have not dried up.
Abortion is not illegal.

End of discussion.

Skipped over a whole lotta history there since Roe vs Wade was enacted in 1973. And the “moral police” were the ones pushing their self-righteous agenda long before that.

Again — there was a spike in funding due to media coverage which has subsided.

That usually happens (not exclusive to abortion).

The real issue is the closure of so many individual Planned Parenthood facilities. Used to be able to just walk in the door and get help. Now many have to go out of state.

More funds are needed.

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Abortion Funds Are In ‘A State Of Emergency’

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a reply to: matafuchs

THERE HAVE BEEN MORE ABORTIONS IN THE US SINCE ROE V WADE WAS REVERSED.

Maybe, maybe not.

Measuring the number of abortions that occur in the United States has always required some amount of estimation—and thus uncertainty—because of several complicating factors (including abortion stigma and incomplete reporting), and these challenges have only increased post-Roe. The Monthly Abortion Provision Study seeks to mitigate these challenges by combining data collected directly from abortion providers with a statistical modeling approach that helps us estimate caseloads at facilities for which we do not have data and helps us to better quantify our uncertainty.

www.guttmacher.org...

It's an educated guess, as to the number, since we don't really have the 2023-2024 numbers yet.

I would suggest, however, that these abortion bans have scared a lot of women into getting abortions that they otherwise wouldn't have, because of their fear that if something goes awry they'll abandoned by their medical providers.

I would suppose more women of childbearing age would opt to wait until the laws are changed to better protect their health and wellbeing.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

How is funding for abortions and funding to better protect their health and well being the same thing?

Here you go. From their own website.....

LINK

oday, the Biden-Harris administration released toplines of its proposed budget for Fiscal Year (FY) 2024, which reaffirms its support for sexual and reproductive health care. The release reiterates the Biden-Harris administration’s commitment to addressing the abortion crisis, and includes $512 million for the Title X program, 79% more than it received in 2023, and modest increases for global programs – with $600 million for bilateral family planning and reproductive health and $57.5 million for the United Nations Population Fund (UNFPA). Planned Parenthood will look for continued support for sexual and reproductive health and rights in the administration's full budget. That includes continuing to strike the Hyde Amendment, as well as striking related discriminatory abortion restrictions, including the Weldon Amendment in the Labor-HHS budget bill and the harmful Helms Amendment, which restricts the use of U.S. foreign aid for abortion.

This whole thread should be in the hoax bin....

a reply to: matafuchs

The Hyde Amendment is alive and well.

The Hyde Amendment is an annual funding restriction that Congress has included in the appropriations acts for the Departments of Labor, Health and Human Services, and Education. It prohibits federal funds from covering abortion services for people enrolled in Medicaid, Medicare, and the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP)2. The amendment has been in place since 1976.

crsreports.congress.gov...

Title X only pays for abortion under EMTALA, which SC0TUS has recently refused to enforce.

SCOTUS declines to hear Texas abortion law challenge, a blow to HHS' EMTALA enforcement

Title X doesn't pay for on demand abortions. And now, hospitals are refusing care for women suffering from miscarriage.

Women are being forced to carry a diseased fetus, that will never achieve viability, to term, unless she slips into sepsis or starts convulsing, hopefully close to a hospital.

This whole thread should be in the hoax bin....

Sigh...
You just don't get it.
People like you are a prime example of why this issue shouldn't be in the hands of voters or elected officials. It's an issue that belongs to the woman concerned, her doctor and her family.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

You….
You just don't get it. People like you are a prime example of why this issue shouldn't be in the hands of voters or elected officials. It's an issue that belongs to the woman concerned, her doctor and her family.

You again….
these abortion bans have scared a lot of women into getting abortions that they otherwise wouldn't have

Wowee 😅

originally posted by: Vermilion
a reply to: Sookiechacha

these abortion bans have scared a lot of women into getting abortions that they otherwise wouldn't have

Wowee 😅

You don’t get it.

There’s no time/accommodation to work with a doctor/family/family planner, counselor, etc.

A window opens — you grab it.

Cuz it may not open again.

a reply to: Annee

You don’t get it.

They don't get it.

Great very informative and very long speech here: I'm gonna woman'splain something to men here about abortion as health care. Just so you know.

Most women know this stuff but so many men don’t that I’m going to use my nursing background to tell you. I also have had personal experience with a D&C after losing a twin pregnancy at 20 weeks.
Pregnancy 101 starts here.
Apologies in advance if this is too rudimentary for you.

A D&C is a surgical procedure to remove abnormal tissues from the uterine lining. Dilation and curettage (D&C) is a surgical procedure in which the cervix is opened (dilated) and a thin instrument is inserted into the uterus. This instrument is used to remove tissue from the inside of the uterus (curettage).
Statistically, It is safer than having a tooth pulled.

When a woman miscarries several things can go bad. During the first 3 months (first trimester =12 weeks)
a woman’s hormones may dip or fluctuate so much that the pregnancy is unsustainable. Sometimes the fetus is malformed or incomplete and isn’t going to keep growing normally. Maybe a trauma happens;
at any rate the fetus isn’t going to make

Around the transition into the second trimester things get tricky.
......
Problems like:
The amniotic fluid is escaped, thru a tear or spontaneous rupture.
The placenta detached and no blood or nutrients can get to fetus.
The fetus just doesn’t develop as it should. Trauma can be a factor;
a fall or car wreck, the flu, or just a miscarriage happening late.
The problem at this point is if the fetus is dead and the contents are not expelled it festers.
The further along in the pregnancy the worse the complications.

Now Mom needs real HELP. Second trimester from 12- 20 weeks problems are much more serious.
She will need Mifepristone or a like drug to stimulate contractions to expel the remainder
and sometimes followed with a D&C to suction out anything left behind.
This is the SAME drug that is used in labor/delivery to stimulate labor or post partum bleeding.
Also some women will also need a D&C in a timely manner.

Now, If the contents are still there, the patient may have waited weeks, sometime months the woman is going into sepsis. A systemic infection that goes into every organ . Kidneys shut down, patient can go into shock or a coma. Death is imminent. Surgery and heavy medical support is your only hope.
They will take the whole uterus is it gets this far.

NOW imagine bleeding out in a parking lot with your husband, because the Dr is worried about losing his or her license. Or losing consciousness and waking up without a uterus because YOU waited too long.
Or explaining to her family why she died.

a reply to: Vermilion

There are some states, like Texas, where it isn't safe to be pregnant especially if it's an at-risk pregnancy for some reason. Knowing this, women will go get an abortion, early, where it's safe, easy to access and affordable, and hold out until it's safer.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

It's an issue that belongs to the woman concerned, her doctor and her family.

Correct, and should not involve the Federal Government. There is no civil right to discuss.

Women are being forced to carry a diseased fetus, that will never achieve viability, to term, unless she slips into sepsis or starts convulsing, hopefully close to a hospital.

No, they are not. Amber Thurman used an abortion pill. It did not do the job correctly. Why is the company who made the pill not being sued? Why are women not boycotting that company and that pill? It kills women. The doctors did not withhold care she died from an infection. They worried about operating because of her condition.She was given the D&C and died on the table. A procedure that just did not happen and would not have been necessary if the pill worked. Nothing was withheld but the story the media tells is so much different.

Kamala Harris is lying to the American Public on the campaign trail.

Educate yourself so you do not simply scare young girls into thinking they have no control of their body.

Anything else about funding?

a reply to: matafuchs

Correct, and should not involve the Federal Government.

The Federal Government was never involved. The federal government protected the constitutional right. That's the duty of the federal government.

Now that SC0TUS revoked that constitutional right, to make those decision, states have the power to make those decisions for all women, not their doctors, not the women, whose bodies are involved, not her family, who may be left raising her existing children.

Amber Thurman used an abortion pill.

I'm not talking about Amber!

But so what if she used the abortion pill? She died because she couldn't get a D&C. Lack of access to medical care killed Amber Thurman.

Anyway, since when do we let people die because they broke a law? The whole reason the case, Roe V Wade, was so powerful socially, was because so many women were dying from botched abortions. And here we are again, making America great again. /sarc

Making something suddenly illegal isn't going to stop people from using/doing it. You can't legislate your morality into someone else's life.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

Have fun defending nothing. I explained it, tried to show there is no loss of funding as well as showed no one is dying from not getting an abortion. No one.

It is all to scare people and thank god my daughter is not subjected to this fear mongering.

Anyone fighting for the ability for abortions is not part of a solution.

a reply to: matafuchs

I explained it, tried to show there is no loss of funding

The OP is wrong?

no one is dying from not getting an abortion. No one.

Keep telling yourself that. Keep being complicit.

A dramatic rise in pregnant women dying in Texas after abortion ban

It is all to scare people and thank god my daughter is not subjected to this fear mongering.

Is she pregnant and living in a state with an abortion ban that might very well let her die, should she miscarriage or have serious health complications? Gee! I sure hope not.

Anyone fighting for the ability for abortions is not part of a solution.

Solution? What do you think is the problem, that needs to be solved?

This thread is about funding running low for women in need of an abortion, for whatever reason,

a reply to: Sookiechacha

The federal government protected the constitutional right.

There is no constitutional right to abortion.
SCOTUS does not have the authority to revoke a constitutional right.
You know this but you say….

Now that SC0TUS revoked that constitutional right

As far as Texas maternal mortality rates and your link….
The totally unbias truth seekers at Gender Equity Policy Institute, the ones who did the “analysis” of the CDC data, have never released their findings.
They gave very little of it to NBC who ran with results which Jezebel and similar “totally reliable news sources” ran with.
It’s debunked garbage.
From 2021-2022 maternal mortality rate dropped 35%.
Do you want to know why?
Less abortions due to the Texas Heartbeat Act.
Abortions kill mothers.
The more abortions, the more mother deaths.
Ask Amber Thurman and Candi Miller.

That article was another attempt to paint anti abortion laws as dangerous to moms.
They tried it back in 2016 with a report by the Obstetrics and Gynecology journal.
The report claimed that the maternal mortality doubled.
The pro-aborts immediately blamed it on the defunding of planned parenthood.
Turns out the facts show that the defunding occurred after the supposed increase in maternal mortality.
Debunked.
Then more facts came out showing that report was totally inaccurate and the reality is that the maternal mortality rates actually went down 65%, not up.
Debunked.

It looks like all this hoopla about defunding abortion is just another hoax to generate fear in hopes of increasing abortion funding.

That NBC article has already been corrected for false numbers, by themselves.
I’m sure there will be more corrections showing its total garbage.
Here’s their correction, from your link…

CORRECTION (Sept. 21, 2024, 8:17 a.m. ET): A previous version of this article misstated the maternal mortality rates by demographic. The figures represent the number per 100,000 live births, not percentages. 🤡

originally posted by: MrGashler
a reply to: Annee

Didn't take you long to end up at the "It's cheaper to just kill them" line.

What's it like living your life with no soul?

Michael Meyers, Jason, and Freddy Krueger have nothing on the modern American leftist. Total psychos!

originally posted by: Wookiep

originally posted by: MrGashler
a reply to: Annee

Didn't take you long to end up at the "It's cheaper to just kill them" line.

What's it like living your life with no soul?

Michael Meyers, Jason, and Freddy Krueger have nothing on the modern American leftist. Total psychos!

I strongly support LIVING CHILDREN.

After every LIVING CHILD is cared for, housed, fed, loved, educated, etc. — then I’ll hear what you have to say.

Pump it out — then it’s no longer of interest — very familiar with that one.

FUNDING: I expect it’s become more local since SCOTUS kicked it back to the states.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

Women dying during pregnancy is not the same as women dying without abortion funding. That article is trash.

Name a few women who have died because they were denied, by law, an abortion. You cannot. You also cannot show funding for abortions is causing deaths.

They are fine do to the 100 Abortion Fund Finders....

Link

In some ways, there have never been more dollars flowing into abortion rights organizing, with philanthropies finally stepping up and more Americans activated over freedoms they previously doubted were really at stake. With hundreds of candidates vying for office and abortion rights on the ballot in 10 states, advocates have been busy raising money to spend through November. In June, the ACLU pledged more than $25 million to protect abortion rights; this was followed by $40 million weeks later from Planned Parenthood, then another $100 million from a new coalition of national groups.

But even as money flows toward protecting abortion rights, the financial burden of accessing abortion services has grown more severe, as bans force people to travel further and delay procedures until they are riskier and more expensive.

This strain is overwhelming the nation’s 100 abortion funds, which are mostly volunteer-led organizations that help people end unwanted pregnancies by paying for their abortions as well as practical support like travel costs — and the tab for this kind of aid quickly adds up.

Seems like inflation is hurting them also. Thanks Kamala Harris for making it harder to let girls get abortions....

a reply to: Vermilion

There is no constitutional right to abortion.

Not anymore. SC0TUS revoked it in the Dobbs decision. This is not an arguable point; this is a matter of history.

The Supreme Court on Friday overruled Roe v. Wade, eliminating the constitutional right to an abortion after almost 50 years in a 6-to-3 ruling.

www.nytimes.com...

But you keep being complicit in your forced birth crusade and all the debauchery that goes with it; pregnant 11 year girls carrying their uncle's mistake, women dying on their bathroom floors from botched abortions, being found by their children.

You do you!

What do you actually know?

And how do you know it?

I’ve had a miscarriage, 2 live births, and an elective abortion.

First pregnancy miscarried. Afterbirth did not come out, so had to do a D & C. Actually, very painful (not a walk in the park). If I had not had proper care I probably would have died.

2 live births —!no complications.

4th pregnancy I chose to abort.

So, I personally went through this process.

After thinking about it and making my decision — I went to my LOCAL Planned Parenthood. $300 cash up front. Some women may need a few weeks to come up with that much cash (which is higher today).

It was easy — as it should be. No radical protestors blocking the entrance.

Every woman deserves the right to make these decisions regarding her reproductive choices.

FUNDING: I doubt what I paid covered more than keeping the lights on and paying the rent.

FUNDING: I sincerely hope more articles are put out like this one to encourage an increase in funding — for ALL states.