Abortion Funds Are In ‘A State Of Emergency’

a reply to: MrGashler

We've been down this road before Sook. A few times actually. But since you're interested in my opinion,

Yes.
Yes.

I think that's crazy and insane that you believe that sex creates "souls". Only for those souls to be damned to Hell for eternity, by some arbitrary god of yours.

Did you really think that I was actually saying Annee didn't have a soul?

Yep. I thought you were pulling the "Holier Than Thou" card.

Did you really not understand that the use of the word "soul" was more referring to her lack of morality with regards to taking an innocent human life?

So, you were pulling the "Holier Than Thou" card.

I can't understand how anyone would think it's moral to force a woman to carry an unwanted pregnancy to term. That makes you the immoral soulless one, in my book.

Are you digging for some logical inconsistency that you can try to use as a gotcha?

You're the one running around calling people "souless", not me.

originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: network dude

Well, frozen sperm is just as good as fresh — if not better (according to some experts).

And can be tested for abnormalities.

Men really aren’t needed.

and vegetables and meat come from the grocery.
//insert Homer backing into the hedges meme//

a reply to: network dude

you might think that babies have no soul,

Get over yourself. I don't believe that sex is a sacred mechanism that creates "souls". And no, I don't believe that a fertilized egg has suddenly gained a "soul".

But if you are hell bent on killing

I'm hell bent on girls and women having autonomy over their own bodies. K?

originally posted by: burntheships
Sigh.

Another abortion thread.
All the same.

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a reply to: marg6043

Democrats should be funding the abortion rights; they seem to have plenty of money for campaign paid by the wealthiest donors in the nation.

Kamal's campaign war chest has reached 1 billion dollars. All that money doesn't seem to be having a lot of success.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: network dude

Well, frozen sperm is just as good as fresh — if not better (according to some experts).

And can be tested for abnormalities.

Men really aren’t needed.

and vegetables and meat come from the grocery.
//insert Homer backing into the hedges meme//

Talk about not relating.

a reply to: FullHeathen

Is the reason you chose to ignore 97% of what I said because you can't provide the data? Why did you do that exactly?

Interesting. Where is this museum at? And why did they only display the preserved corpses of those fetuses and not also include fetuses who have been aborted voluntarily?

a reply to: Annee

Without men you would have no argument here. Think about it.

No overreaction. I am having a conversation with facts not emotions. Why should the right to an abortion be a civil right? It is a medical procedure. It is a option. A choice. It is not a right.

Healthcare is also a choice but the Progressives want it to the a right. The US owes you nothing but the protections of our Constitution.

a reply to: Annee

I do not see men in the streets yelling save my balls.....I do here MY BODY MY CHOICE from women so.....are you sure about who is overreacting?

Way to jump right in and politicize it.

a reply to: Annee

To be fair when was the last time it wasn't politicized? It used to be pro-life or pro-choice now its pro-abortion or limits on how long into the pregnancy is acceptable for an abortion. Abortion should not be discussed in terms of a presidential or federal issue its a states right issue now. We should do the same with education just like alcohol and marijuana, driving laws and many others. I like having states different and allowing people in each state to vote on as many issues as possible. Less power in DC is a good thing to me.

a reply to: fringeofthefringe

Why does a state get to control my reproductive rights?

a reply to: MrGashler

Is the reason you chose to ignore 97% of what I said because you can't provide the data? Why did you do that exactly?

I'm busy lazy.

from: A dramatic rise in pregnant women dying in Texas after abortion ban

From 2019 to 2022, the rate of maternal mortality cases in Texas rose by 56%, compared with just 11% nationwide during the same time period, according to an analysis by the Gender Equity Policy Institute. The nonprofit research group scoured publicly available reports from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and shared the analysis exclusively with NBC News.

“There’s only one explanation for this staggering difference in maternal mortality,” said Nancy L. Cohen, president of the GEPI. “All the research points to Texas’ abortion ban as the primary driver of this alarming increase.”

“Texas, I fear, is a harbinger of what’s to come in other states,” she said.

Where is this museum at?

I don't dox, but it was in a sub basement of a large hospital.

fetuses who have been aborted voluntarily?

Maybe, just maybe, people have those images thrust in their faces at any pro-life rally.

I just have to say thank goodness I live in a state where our Governor made sure women have access to reproductive health care.

My middle daughter is the first of my 3 daughters to become pregnant. Everyone was thrilled. This week at her 5 month appointment and ultrasound there was no heartbeat. Now everyone was heartbroken. Her doctor immediately recommended another doctor and stated she needed to contact him urgently as well. Followed up yesterday and he scheduled her again immediately for a D&E at the hospital today, before her life was in danger. That's where I spent my full day today, waiting with her husband.

I cannot imagine dealing with this heartbreak and possibly losing her, or her fertility because of the loss of Roe and laws of men who want to control women's bodies, even at the detriment of women themselves.

originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: fringeofthefringe

Why does a state get to control my reproductive rights?

The state would not, the People, community, in the state would vote on it. That is the point. At least if you don't like the results of said vote you can move to New York, California or somewhere that more reflects your values.

a reply to: fringeofthefringe

But you are incorrect.

The Arkansas Supreme Court upheld the state’s rejection of signed petitions for an abortion rights ballot initiative on Thursday, keeping the proposal from going before voters in November.

AP News

An example that a state is refusing to allow its citizens to even vote on it.


And this lovely news nugget.
DeSantis had to be sued to stop threatening tv stations with prosecution for running ads for an abortion amendment proposal.

Tampa Bay Times

originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: fringeofthefringe

But you are incorrect.

The Arkansas Supreme Court upheld the state’s rejection of signed petitions for an abortion rights ballot initiative on Thursday, keeping the proposal from going before voters in November.

AP News

An example that a state is refusing to allow its citizens to even vote on it.

No, vote for a govenor or legislators that support your values. Are you following me? Not that I mind.
From the article:

The ruling dashed the organizers’ hopes of getting the constitutional amendment measure onto the ballot in the predominantly Republican state, where many top leaders promote their opposition to abortion.

I am not agreeing or disagreeing with what DeSantis's administration did but the point I was making was vote DeSantis out and vote in a pro abortion govenor and legislators or move to a state that shares your values or be an activist in Florida.
From second article:

The ruling puts a temporary halt to one of DeSantis’ most brazen attempts to defeat Amendment 4, which would overturn the six-week abortion ban he signed into law.

a reply to: fringeofthefringe

And until that election, how many women will die? How many women or girls will have to have their rapists baby?

I sincerely hope any female family members never have to be in that situation, only then will you actually care about a woman's life or fertility.

originally posted by: nugget1

New findings from the Monthly Abortion Provision Study show that an estimated 1,037,000 abortions occurred in the formal health care system in 2023, the first full calendar year after the US Supreme Court’s decision in Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization overturned Roe v. Wade. This represents a rate of 15.9 abortions per 1,000 women of reproductive age,* and is a 11% increase since 2020, the last year for which comprehensive estimates are available. It is also the highest number and rate measured in the United States in over a decade.

www.guttmacher.org...

15.9 per 1,000 women. That's a pretty high number! Maybe spend some of those never-ending funds on educating women about pregnancy prevention? Or free birth control for all?

We keep hearing about dclining birth rates which will destablize our entire financial system in the near future, yet spend vast sums to promote ending pergnancies. What a crazy world we live in now.

Quiz Time!

Even though only 30% of America is Black/Hispanic, 64% of Abortions are with Black/Hispanic Women.

Source: www.kff.org...

Besides Racist Democrats, what other groups really like easy-to-get abortions?

And until that election, how many women will die?

a reply to: frogs453

I hope none. I am just calling it like I see it, that seems to be the process. It is a states rights issue and voters need to vote for people, govenors and legislatures that will reflwct their values. I wish you or no women any harm.

originally posted by: fringeofthefringe

originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: fringeofthefringe

Why does a state get to control my reproductive rights?

The state would not, the People, community, in the state would vote on it. That is the point. At least if you don't like the results of said vote you can move to New York, California or somewhere that more reflects your values.

Why are my reproductive rights any of the general public’s business.

Let alone giving authority for the general public to vote on it.