The debate. Who wins?

originally posted by: DBCowboy

They'll ask her questions on abortion, the 2025 thing, and environment.

Ah, the core issues that keep America standing strong, of course!

The muted microphones work in Trumps favor, Kamala won't be able over talk him.

originally posted by: RickinVa
The muted microphones work in Trumps favor, Kamala won't be able over talk him.

"Aimmm Speeeaging"

As a non American looking into American politics I cannot believe how apparently half of Americans still believe your news channels or that the current administration is good for American.

Seriously the overwhelming vast majority of the planets populations doesn’t believe not even a little bit men can be women or vice versa. they also want and even demand their country have strong secure boarders. Demand ID to vote and demand elections be fair and completely publicly open. They want more affordable housing to secure their futures and they want the cost of food to go down. They want affordable energy. Affordable medicine.


These are not American issues these are HUMAN issues. Issue the vast majority of humans concern themselves with because they are extremely important factors in determining the quality of our lives.

Trump seems to care,discuss and act on these issues and the people love him for it.

What’s Kamala’s platform? What is she going to do that she couldn’t have done already? What’s her big running ticket?
Building trumps wall? Reparations? For 13 percent of the population in which the other 87% pay? Doubtful….is she the feminine empowerment juggernaut? Ms steal your man? Ms single female lawyer?What’s her platform? No more mean words only communism?

That’s what it looks like from the outside anyway.


a reply to: malte86

a reply to: Athetos

This is abit off topic but the notions you're speaking on strike right to the core.

The states largely have lost its tangible production of goods export status. Instead we have USD and culture to export. Two fronts that are desperately failing.

Would it matter if the microphone's were turned off for the entirety of the 'debate' because as far as I can tell - and yes, I could easily be wrong here - most people have made their minds up already.
And let's face it, gone are the days when politicians debated policies.....its all about 'optics' now.
And gone are the days when people actually understood policies.

originally posted by: Freeborn
Would it matter if the microphone's were turned off for the entirety of the 'debate' because as far as I can tell - and yes, I could easily be wrong here - most people have made their minds up already.
And let's face it, gone are the days when politicians debated policies.....its all about 'optics' now.
And gone are the days when people actually understood policies.

Supposedly quite a few are undecided, FWIW and in most close elections motivating them to vote can change the scope of the election in battleground states.

Most places Ive seen seem to think whoever gets 4 of 6 of Pennsylvania, Georgia, Wisconsin, Michigan, North Carolina, and Arizona

After the debates are over it will boil down to:

originally posted by: Freeborn
Would it matter if the microphone's were turned off for the entirety of the 'debate' because as far as I can tell - and yes, I could easily be wrong here - most people have made their minds up already.
And let's face it, gone are the days when politicians debated policies.....its all about 'optics' now.
And gone are the days when people actually understood policies.

Harris has done one single softball interview. That's it.

She was not elected in any primary.

I, for one, just want to hear her speak unscripted.

originally posted by: TheLieWeLive

I am curious to which accent Kamala uses tonight.

If she busts out the stereotypical Indian accent at some point I will vote for her.

a reply to: wAnchorofCarp

and he should reply....."It's about time...."

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I think most people are intelligent enough to understand that it’ll be a completely new administration though.

It’ll be the same exact puppeteers that’ve been pulling Joey’s strings and the same people that are in Joey boy’s administration. Give or take a few. # ain’t gonna change, well…. not for the better anyway.

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The administration introduced a rule in 2024 to phase out gas-powered vehicles. The rule requires the majority of new cars sold in the United States to be EVs or hybrids by 2032. As the Wall Street Journal Editorial Board noted, the rule means that “gas-powered cars can make up no more than 30% of auto sales by 2032.”

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originally posted by: malte86
Since, strangely, there isn't a thread about today's debate yet, I'll take the lead. What are your predictions? Who will emerge as the winner in the polls after the debate?

My prediction: Harris will win 60:40 (according to the polls afterwards). Trump will create various word salads that no one understands, he will certainly argue below the belt, become agitated, and undoubtedly will need to be interrupted multiple times. I think he will say little of substance and remain vague on important issues (abortion, etc.). Overall, he will deliver a hectic and populist performance and play the 'we're all doomed if I'm not elected' card. Harris, on the other hand, will likely try to appear more statesmanlike, focusing on unity and a romantic vision of society. She will counter many of Trump's contradictory or false statements, and Trump will not be intellectually capable of handling it. Overall, I believe she will come across as more composed and less aggressive, making constructive suggestions without doom porn.

In the end, Harris supporters will say: yeah, she demystified him! And Trump's supporters will say: whatever, I'll vote for him anyway.

Decisive for the election? I doubt it. Only in one scenario: if Trump consistently shines and Harris fails on all levels. I don't see that happening.

So, what are your thoughts and predictions?

I think Kamala will do as good as Biden did.

a reply to: malte86

He won't need to get angry or cut Harris off. She'll be easily cut down with a few words. She's a major F up and has been since she got into politics. I know it, you know it, Trump knows it, America knows it.

What are the drinking rules for tonight's debacle???


Drink when you hear convicted felon, double drinks for any cackles.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: burntheships
a reply to: DBCowboy

How are they going to ask her any questions at all, I wonder?

Can't ask her about anything that has to change because
she is the one who brought it all on American to start
with.

They'll ask her questions on abortion, the 2025 thing, and environment.

I guess they could ask Trump about childcare costs or credit card debt.

Spoiler… he just completely changes the subject.