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originally posted by: KrustyKrab
a reply to: WeMustCare
So at whose discretion would they open the mics? Seems as though that would be very open to interpretation, saying the “network” would do it is pretty ambiguous. It could be a staffer in the control booth trying to control the debate for all we know. This is ridiculous it should be either closed or open mic, period.
originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
I can't speak for others, but the debates have always been just pure pain for me to watch. There are just so many lies, exaggerations and campaign promises which will never be acted upon, it drives me crazy.
On the one hand the debates are too long, but on the other they are not nearly long enough to be informative. It's almost like you have to make them several hours long so each candidate exhausts all their hot air and bull# and is forced to reveal what they are really saying, or planning. It's like you never get through the pre-planned sound bytes and campaign bravado before it's time for the next question. I sometimes wonder if it wouldn't be better to mute the first couple of minutes of each candidate's responses and only air the last couple minutes.
The debates are structed more like reality TV than they are a true debate. In fact, the word "debate" shouldn't even be allowed, IMO. Under the official rules of true "Debate", both candidates would be disqualified and asked to take a seat. Plus, the moderators generally have no real understanding of true debate rules; they're just news media mouthpieces.
The presidential debates are more about who can get the best one-liner and the most zingers on the other guy. No real policy ever gets discussed in detail.
To me, watching the debates is like...dancing with a belt sander.
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: network dude
"He was given the keys to the car, all he has to do is drive it."
And not crash it?
If he can keep his gob shut, he will probably win.
It's a big "if" though.
Thats like asking Liz Truss to say something smart.
originally posted by: WeMustCare
a reply to: Oldcarpy2
Voters are smarter than you think.
I think I'll take the 5th on that....
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
I can't speak for others, but the debates have always been just pure pain for me to watch. There are just so many lies, exaggerations and campaign promises which will never be acted upon, it drives me crazy.
On the one hand the debates are too long, but on the other they are not nearly long enough to be informative. It's almost like you have to make them several hours long so each candidate exhausts all their hot air and bull# and is forced to reveal what they are really saying, or planning. It's like you never get through the pre-planned sound bytes and campaign bravado before it's time for the next question. I sometimes wonder if it wouldn't be better to mute the first couple of minutes of each candidate's responses and only air the last couple minutes.
The debates are structed more like reality TV than they are a true debate. In fact, the word "debate" shouldn't even be allowed, IMO. Under the official rules of true "Debate", both candidates would be disqualified and asked to take a seat. Plus, the moderators generally have no real understanding of true debate rules; they're just news media mouthpieces.
The presidential debates are more about who can get the best one-liner and the most zingers on the other guy. No real policy ever gets discussed in detail.
To me, watching the debates is like...dancing with a belt sander.
they should start with each candidate alone in a room being asked questions, then answering, by themselves. Then each one gets to see the others answers, then speak to those answers. Once the election is over, the one who wins, won't have to deal with opposition, (unless it's Trump, then the MSM will oppose him all the way), so we need to see what they would do based on their own thinking, or lack thereof.
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: UKTruth
I think Trump supporters are in for a rude awakening on September 10th.
Trump has only ever come out on top in debates by bullying his opponents and if he tries that against Harris, he's going to get panned.
The brief for Harris is quite simple - attack Trump and wind him up.
There is no way Trump will be able to keep his cool.
I think Harris will destroy him.
Does ANYONE think Trump will be able to respond to personal attacks with something like ' These personal attacks are just made up campaign talking points because the Democrats have nothing to offer the American people except open borders, high taxes and high inflation, plus ongoing wars. Their whole campaign is about me precisely because their record is so awful'.
No chance - he's going to blurt out something campaign ending like how she's not black.
I think you are spot on as far as what Trump would have to do to win. But if he tries something totally new and innovative, he can pull this off. The new and innovative thing I speak of, is "being quiet" when needed. Allow her to answer, allow her to speak and tell all of her thoughts. And answer by hilighting the admin's failures then speaking to what he would do different. I know, pipe dream, but one that would work, if he could pull it off. If he says stupid things, and loses to this train wreck, it's on him alone. He was given the keys to the car, all he has to do is drive it.
Yeah - I think it's fairly obvious what he needs to do - but we all know he can not.
He's in a no win situation IMO. He cant win the debate really, only lose it badly.
If he does well it will remain a tight race and then we're into the cold hard place where election fraud swings it for Harris.
If he does badly, the election is well and truly over.
Keep in mind that the week after the Democrats are very likely to get their Orange Jump Suit moment as Trump is processed into jail.
originally posted by: EyeoftheHurricane
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
I can't speak for others, but the debates have always been just pure pain for me to watch. There are just so many lies, exaggerations and campaign promises which will never be acted upon, it drives me crazy.
On the one hand the debates are too long, but on the other they are not nearly long enough to be informative. It's almost like you have to make them several hours long so each candidate exhausts all their hot air and bull# and is forced to reveal what they are really saying, or planning. It's like you never get through the pre-planned sound bytes and campaign bravado before it's time for the next question. I sometimes wonder if it wouldn't be better to mute the first couple of minutes of each candidate's responses and only air the last couple minutes.
The debates are structed more like reality TV than they are a true debate. In fact, the word "debate" shouldn't even be allowed, IMO. Under the official rules of true "Debate", both candidates would be disqualified and asked to take a seat. Plus, the moderators generally have no real understanding of true debate rules; they're just news media mouthpieces.
The presidential debates are more about who can get the best one-liner and the most zingers on the other guy. No real policy ever gets discussed in detail.
To me, watching the debates is like...dancing with a belt sander.
they should start with each candidate alone in a room being asked questions, then answering, by themselves. Then each one gets to see the others answers, then speak to those answers. Once the election is over, the one who wins, won't have to deal with opposition, (unless it's Trump, then the MSM will oppose him all the way), so we need to see what they would do based on their own thinking, or lack thereof.
You mean something along the lines of the infamous Saddleback Forum ?
originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: network dude
Yeah, I've said essentially this for a long time. For the debates to be effective, both candidates need to be isolated from each other, and from any audience. They should be forced to respond, in a pre-determined time frame after which their mic and response will be cut off. Neither candidate can hear the other. This would be "Part 1" of a debate. Then, "Part 2" would be each candidate is given the other's responses to each of the questions, and they are allowed a pre-determined time frame to rebut the other's comments, again after which the mics would be cut off.
"Part 3" of a debate would be a equal period of time for each candidate to say whatever they want. They could cover previous questions/responses, or they could speak about their campaign, BUT they only get a pre-allotted time to do this; how they choose to use this time is on them.
originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: network dude
Cage matches to the death...now I LIKE that idea!!!!
I'd be all over that on PPV!!!!
originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: asabuvsobelow
what we really need are deadlines based on time.
originally posted by: CarlLaFong
a reply to: WeMustCare
Doesn't Kamala's best friend, Dana Walden, run ABC?
Spoiler Alert: YES.
originally posted by: billxam1
a reply to: WeMustCare
It all makes no sense. Comrad Kamala should love the mic mute idea because the "moderators" could mis-quote Trump leading to hilarity. Of course no muted mics would allow for a real word salad shooter cackling festival of epic proportions.
originally posted by: UKTruth
I think Trump supporters are in for a rude awakening on September 10th.
Trump has only ever come out on top in debates by bullying his opponents and if he tries that against Harris, he's going to get panned.
originally posted by: CarlLaFong
a reply to: WeMustCare
Doesn't Kamala's best friend, Dana Walden, run ABC?
Spoiler Alert: YES.
Along with kid-glove treatment...Kamala gets the questions and answers ahead of time...along with whatever else she wants.