US Army Rebukes Trump Campaign

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: Moon68

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: Moon68

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: Moon68

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: Moon68

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: 777Vader
With Trump, it was upon invitation of the family, same thing.

NO

It’s about the rules in place that apply to everyone.

The family does not get to break the rules either.

Stop making excuses.

The military gets to set the rules for civilians. Interesting….

When it's a military cemetery, yes.

So the military has more rights over the family. Is that the spirit of the USA’s founding?

Hummm. How do you think government controlled healthcare is going to work out.

It's nothing to do with rights over the family.

It's a military cemetery and quite rightly there are rules that apply.

I spent a year on funeral detail and I can assure you, the military is very accommodating for the families of the fallen. Y'all need to stop talking about sh*t you know nothing about.

Where did I say they weren't?

Doesn't mean that there aren't rules that people are expected to follow while there.

Any unofficial recording of a military detail, photo or video, is against code. When it comes to the bereaved, there are special exemptions left to the discretion of the detail commander, OIC or NCOIC.

So the mititary sets the rules at military cemeteries.

What I said.

And ignored the rest of what I said.

Typical

Ignored what?

Military makes the rules at military cemeteries.

That is what I said.

You agree.

Not sure what point you think you are making.

You don't get it, obviously never military. The codes are written to keep soldiers from being stupid, most notably E-4 and below. Unless there's a police action or a crime is committed in a military jurisdiction, military code does not apply to civilians. Can a Commander ask a civilian to follow military protocol? Sure. If said civilian doesn't, the Commander is SOL.

It's a military cemetery. The military sets the rules.

People can't just decide they don't apply regardless if they have relatives buried there.

I can't think of any way to make you understand how that system works. You've never been a part of it so either you're being deliberately obtuse or you're just obliviously ignorant.

a reply to: SourGrapes

No one is against him taking photos with the family. Using the photos for a campaign ad? Manhandling a worker because you don't think rules apply to you? As the other family they said how they feel with people stepping all over their sons grave and not even blurring his name out in the campaign ad, highly upset. That's disgusting.

originally posted by: Moon68

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: Moon68

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: Moon68

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: Moon68

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: Moon68

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: 777Vader
With Trump, it was upon invitation of the family, same thing.

NO

It’s about the rules in place that apply to everyone.

The family does not get to break the rules either.

Stop making excuses.

The military gets to set the rules for civilians. Interesting….

When it's a military cemetery, yes.

So the military has more rights over the family. Is that the spirit of the USA’s founding?

Hummm. How do you think government controlled healthcare is going to work out.

It's nothing to do with rights over the family.

It's a military cemetery and quite rightly there are rules that apply.

I spent a year on funeral detail and I can assure you, the military is very accommodating for the families of the fallen. Y'all need to stop talking about sh*t you know nothing about.

Where did I say they weren't?

Doesn't mean that there aren't rules that people are expected to follow while there.

Any unofficial recording of a military detail, photo or video, is against code. When it comes to the bereaved, there are special exemptions left to the discretion of the detail commander, OIC or NCOIC.

So the mititary sets the rules at military cemeteries.

What I said.

And ignored the rest of what I said.

Typical

Ignored what?

Military makes the rules at military cemeteries.

That is what I said.

You agree.

Not sure what point you think you are making.

You don't get it, obviously never military. The codes are written to keep soldiers from being stupid, most notably E-4 and below. Unless there's a police action or a crime is committed in a military jurisdiction, military code does not apply to civilians. Can a Commander ask a civilian to follow military protocol? Sure. If said civilian doesn't, the Commander is SOL.

It's a military cemetery. The military sets the rules.

People can't just decide they don't apply regardless if they have relatives buried there.

I can't think of any way to make you understand how that system works. You've never been a part of it so either you're being deliberately obtuse or you're just obliviously ignorant.

I do understand how it works.

It's a military cemetery.

The military can and does set rules about what can take place there.

That is how it works.

Weird tangents you bring up about military code don't change that.

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: Moon68

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: Moon68

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: Moon68

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: Moon68

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: Moon68

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: 777Vader
With Trump, it was upon invitation of the family, same thing.

NO

It’s about the rules in place that apply to everyone.

The family does not get to break the rules either.

Stop making excuses.

The military gets to set the rules for civilians. Interesting….

When it's a military cemetery, yes.

So the military has more rights over the family. Is that the spirit of the USA’s founding?

Hummm. How do you think government controlled healthcare is going to work out.

It's nothing to do with rights over the family.

It's a military cemetery and quite rightly there are rules that apply.

I spent a year on funeral detail and I can assure you, the military is very accommodating for the families of the fallen. Y'all need to stop talking about sh*t you know nothing about.

Where did I say they weren't?

Doesn't mean that there aren't rules that people are expected to follow while there.

Any unofficial recording of a military detail, photo or video, is against code. When it comes to the bereaved, there are special exemptions left to the discretion of the detail commander, OIC or NCOIC.

So the mititary sets the rules at military cemeteries.

What I said.

And ignored the rest of what I said.

Typical

Ignored what?

Military makes the rules at military cemeteries.

That is what I said.

You agree.

Not sure what point you think you are making.

You don't get it, obviously never military. The codes are written to keep soldiers from being stupid, most notably E-4 and below. Unless there's a police action or a crime is committed in a military jurisdiction, military code does not apply to civilians. Can a Commander ask a civilian to follow military protocol? Sure. If said civilian doesn't, the Commander is SOL.

It's a military cemetery. The military sets the rules.

People can't just decide they don't apply regardless if they have relatives buried there.

I can't think of any way to make you understand how that system works. You've never been a part of it so either you're being deliberately obtuse or you're just obliviously ignorant.

I do understand how it works.

It's a military cemetery.

The military can and does set rules about what can take place there.

That is how it works.

Weird tangents you bring up about military code don't change that.

No you don't understand.

I'm done beating my head on this rock.

GFC

originally posted by: Moon68

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: Moon68

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: Moon68

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: Moon68

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: Moon68

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: Moon68

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: 777Vader
With Trump, it was upon invitation of the family, same thing.

NO

It’s about the rules in place that apply to everyone.

The family does not get to break the rules either.

Stop making excuses.

The military gets to set the rules for civilians. Interesting….

When it's a military cemetery, yes.

So the military has more rights over the family. Is that the spirit of the USA’s founding?

Hummm. How do you think government controlled healthcare is going to work out.

It's nothing to do with rights over the family.

It's a military cemetery and quite rightly there are rules that apply.

I spent a year on funeral detail and I can assure you, the military is very accommodating for the families of the fallen. Y'all need to stop talking about sh*t you know nothing about.

Where did I say they weren't?

Doesn't mean that there aren't rules that people are expected to follow while there.

Any unofficial recording of a military detail, photo or video, is against code. When it comes to the bereaved, there are special exemptions left to the discretion of the detail commander, OIC or NCOIC.

So the mititary sets the rules at military cemeteries.

What I said.

And ignored the rest of what I said.

Typical

Ignored what?

Military makes the rules at military cemeteries.

That is what I said.

You agree.

Not sure what point you think you are making.

You don't get it, obviously never military. The codes are written to keep soldiers from being stupid, most notably E-4 and below. Unless there's a police action or a crime is committed in a military jurisdiction, military code does not apply to civilians. Can a Commander ask a civilian to follow military protocol? Sure. If said civilian doesn't, the Commander is SOL.

It's a military cemetery. The military sets the rules.

People can't just decide they don't apply regardless if they have relatives buried there.

I can't think of any way to make you understand how that system works. You've never been a part of it so either you're being deliberately obtuse or you're just obliviously ignorant.

I do understand how it works.

It's a military cemetery.

The military can and does set rules about what can take place there.

That is how it works.

Weird tangents you bring up about military code don't change that.

No you don't understand.

I'm done beating my head on this rock.

GFC

That's maybe a hobby you should have given up a long time ago then you might understand.

a reply to: Annee

Looks like you've got a living testimonial for anything. 😀

a reply to: frogs453

In the normal world, this would not be reported as such.

No one was attacked. It is as big a lie as Donald Trump trying to fight USSS on 1/6. Still people believe it.
Multiple past presidents and candidate have done the same thing. No issue. There never has been. It is POTUS.

The source?

A woman who works at the cemetery filed an incident report with the military authorities over the altercation. But the woman, who has not been identified but was described as a seasoned official at the cemetery, later declined to press charges. Military officials said she feared retaliation from Trump supporters if her identity became known as part of any formal investigation.

Scared? This is the new media tagline to create fear. Like the trials. Seems there was ONE person out of all those working there with TDS

Where was this violated?

“Partisan activities are inappropriate in Arlington National Cemetery, due to its role as a shrine to all the honoured dead of the Armed Forces of the United States and out of respect for the men and women buried there and for their families.”

He was invited, and posed for pictures with family. It was not created for a photo-op. This was a ceremony. He did not hold a rally at Arlington....

and WTF was the POTUS? or VPOTUS? THAT is what the media should be reporting not trying to take something that was asked for and turning it into more hate to get his shot at again.

a reply to: matafuchs

I was just stopping in here, to ask if we had video of the "supposed" incident yet?

I mean, come on. All the people there and it is this one chick, with nobody backing her? Nobody else anonymously coming out saying "hey, I saw it, it happened"?

Utter BS.

She made it up.

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: Annee

Looks like you've got a living testimonial for anything. 😀

I don’t make stuff up.

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: 777Vader
With Trump, it was upon invitation of the family, same thing.

NO

It’s about the rules in place that apply to everyone.

The family does not get to break the rules either.

Stop making excuses.

The military gets to set the rules for civilians. Interesting….

When it's a military cemetery, yes.

So the military has more rights over the family. Is that the spirit of the USA’s founding?

Hummm. How do you think government controlled healthcare is going to work out.

It's nothing to do with rights over the family.

It's a military cemetery and quite rightly there are rules that apply.

Hmm..

"The department encourages and actively supports its personnel in their civic obligation to vote, but makes clear members of the armed forces on active duty should not engage in partisan political activities," his memo read.


www.defense.gov...

Is this is ok?

Joe Biden sounds alarm in Philadelphia speech: Trumpism menaces democracy

www.witf.org...

You just love the authoritarian political BS propaganda, and the misuse of military as a display of power against US civilians. While Biden is a laughingstock against likes of Hamas and Iran.

Too bad Biden ruined his “photo op”?

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: 777Vader
With Trump, it was upon invitation of the family, same thing.

NO

It’s about the rules in place that apply to everyone.

The family does not get to break the rules either.

Stop making excuses.

The military gets to set the rules for civilians. Interesting….

When it's a military cemetery, yes.

So the military has more rights over the family. Is that the spirit of the USA’s founding?

Hummm. How do you think government controlled healthcare is going to work out.

It's nothing to do with rights over the family.

It's a military cemetery and quite rightly there are rules that apply.

Hmm..

"The department encourages and actively supports its personnel in their civic obligation to vote, but makes clear members of the armed forces on active duty should not engage in partisan political activities," his memo read.


www.defense.gov...

Is this is ok?

Joe Biden sounds alarm in Philadelphia speech: Trumpism menaces democracy

www.witf.org...

You just love the authoritarian political BS propaganda, and the misuse of military as a display of power against US civilians. While Biden is a laughingstock against likes of Hamas and Iran.

What has any of that got to do with rules at a military cemetery?

originally posted by: Lazy88
Too bad Biden ruined his “photo op”?

And that has what to do with Trump ignoring, breaking rules at a military cemetery?

Plus abusing a worker?

originally posted by: chiefsmom
a reply to: matafuchs

I was just stopping in here, to ask if we had video of the "supposed" incident yet?

I mean, come on. All the people there and it is this one chick, with nobody backing her? Nobody else anonymously coming out saying "hey, I saw it, it happened"?

Utter BS.

She made it up.

It’s obvious that what is seen at the cemetery should be brought into question.

They missed so many people skulking around that none of this info can be taken as reliable.

First Obama
Then Biden

Now, look at this.

John McCain political ad at Arlington Cemetery

t.me...

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: 777Vader
With Trump, it was upon invitation of the family, same thing.

NO

It’s about the rules in place that apply to everyone.

The family does not get to break the rules either.

Stop making excuses.

The military gets to set the rules for civilians. Interesting….

When it's a military cemetery, yes.

So the military has more rights over the family. Is that the spirit of the USA’s founding?

Hummm. How do you think government controlled healthcare is going to work out.

It's nothing to do with rights over the family.

It's a military cemetery and quite rightly there are rules that apply.

Hmm..

"The department encourages and actively supports its personnel in their civic obligation to vote, but makes clear members of the armed forces on active duty should not engage in partisan political activities," his memo read.


www.defense.gov...

Is this is ok?

Joe Biden sounds alarm in Philadelphia speech: Trumpism menaces democracy

www.witf.org...

You just love the authoritarian political BS propaganda, and the misuse of military as a display of power against US civilians. While Biden is a laughingstock against likes of Hamas and Iran.

What has any of that got to do with rules at a military cemetery?

Hmm.

Biden misusing military personal to intimidate US civilians in a hack partisan speech pandering to false narratives. But showing little respect for the military members killed in action.

While you totally ignore Trump was asked to attend a ceremony in the capacity of a former President where he had the respect to show up in the age of video and selfies. Like it or not, that is the age we live in.

Other than the disrespect of looking at his watch, how is that different than Biden at a ceremony?

originally posted by: Annee
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Plus abusing a worker?

What’s the proof on that? Hearsay?

It’s not like liberals to make false allegations. 😁

How’s that Russia Trump Collusion working out?

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Lazy88
Too bad Biden ruined his “photo op”?

And that has what to do with Trump ignoring, breaking rules at a military cemetery?

Plus abusing a worker?

This isn’t the misuse of military personnel?

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Lazy88
Too bad Biden ruined his “photo op”?

And that has what to do with Trump ignoring, breaking rules at a military cemetery?

Plus abusing a worker?

This isn’t the misuse of military personnel?

Biden has nothing to do with what Trump did.

“Trump got on the phone with Biden”

“Hey! Biden — it’s Trump. It’s OK for me to break the rules at a military cemetery and use it in my political campaign. Right?”

a reply to: Annee

I can quote many people that stated that speech was a misuse of military personnel.

Now. If video at the ceremony was such a big deal, why not have the military ban all video?

Again. How was Trump showing up to an invitation as a former president and accommodating family’s something egregious? Just more fake outrage. If it was Biden, what ever floats the families boat.

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: 777Vader
With Trump, it was upon invitation of the family, same thing.

NO

It’s about the rules in place that apply to everyone.

The family does not get to break the rules either.

Stop making excuses.

The military gets to set the rules for civilians. Interesting….

When it's a military cemetery, yes.

So the military has more rights over the family. Is that the spirit of the USA’s founding?

Hummm. How do you think government controlled healthcare is going to work out.

It's nothing to do with rights over the family.

It's a military cemetery and quite rightly there are rules that apply.

Hmm..

"The department encourages and actively supports its personnel in their civic obligation to vote, but makes clear members of the armed forces on active duty should not engage in partisan political activities," his memo read.


www.defense.gov...

Is this is ok?

Joe Biden sounds alarm in Philadelphia speech: Trumpism menaces democracy

www.witf.org...

You just love the authoritarian political BS propaganda, and the misuse of military as a display of power against US civilians. While Biden is a laughingstock against likes of Hamas and Iran.

What has any of that got to do with rules at a military cemetery?

Hmm.

Biden misusing military personal to intimidate US civilians in a hack partisan speech pandering to false narratives. But showing little respect for the military members killed in action.

While you totally ignore Trump was asked to attend a ceremony in the capacity of a former President where he had the respect to show up in the age of video and selfies. Like it or not, that is the age we live in.

Other than the disrespect of looking at his watch, how is that different than Biden at a ceremony?

I am not ignoring that he was invited, I am posting out that invitation of families doesn't change the rules of the cemetery.

Biden was at the ceremony in his capacity as President same as Trump was when he was president. Such things have never been considered political campaigning.