KamalaCare - Candidate Harris to Replace Private Insurance With Government Healthcare.

originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: FlyersFan

From the charts I am looking at from 2020 to 2023, you are right, it goes up and down. Isn't the prudent thing to do is at least give it a try and work out the kinks along the way?

Oh ffs 🤦‍♂️ Pelosi reincarnate. “we got to pass it to see what’s in it”, amiright? Since when did the government ever fix anything that was bad when it started? They tend to always make everything worse mostly due to mismanagement.

What do we have here, just out today. This is government in the insurance business in a nut shell. They screw up everything they touch and pass the buck to taxpayers.

In a move critics say is designed to shield the Biden-Harris administration from election fallout, the administration has leveraged taxpayer funds to mask upcoming increases in Medicare premiums.

Under the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA), which was intended to cap out-of-pocket drug costs for Medicare beneficiaries, insurers are poised to significantly hike monthly premiums, with average bids for Part D plans expected to triple by 2025.

response to potential voter backlash, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) rolled out a three-year "demonstration project" to subsidize these premiums, aiming to keep them artificially low. However, despite the appearance of relief, some critics are saying that taxpayers will fund a dramatic increase in subsidies — from $30 per recipient per month in 2024 to $142.70 in 2025 — raising concerns about the long-term impact on government spending and debt. 

This is only going to get worse in 2025, 2026," Grogan continued. "The program is in a death spiral. They announced a three-year demo. It's already broken. The demo is going to fail. Premiums are still going to go up."

They've destroyed part D premiums," Grogan told Fox News Digital in an interview. "I'm not sure it'll survive legal scrutiny if someone were to sue. Objectively, it shouldn't be done. It's just interjecting $5-10 billion of taxpayer dollars, while the taxpayers are paying the price 85 days before an election. It's sickening."

[url=Biden-Harris administration using taxpayer money to mask Medicare premium hikes before election: critics www.foxnews....

As a Canadian I can say first hand government health care sucks and it sucks bad. Totally incompetent mess like everything run with zero competition. No drive to innovate. No fear of getting fired because it’s impossible. People just die waiting to be seen on the regular.

It’s the absolute worst of both worlds. It’s free but you never get it.

I would absolutely love to have a private separate Canadian system I could pay for to totally by pass the government mess.

I would gladly pay and insurance premiums to not have to ever set foot in the public health care system again.
I don’t even have that choice.

a reply to: Threadbarer

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: nugget1

If what you were saying was true it should be reflected in life expectancy, but it's not. The life expectancy in countries with healthcare systems that rank above the US tend to be higher.

Perhaps that's because they don't allow many of the drugs to be used that are known to be harmful and are commonly used in America?

Might also have something to do with other countries not allowing known hrmful ingredients in their food that are proven to cause serious health issues-including many forms of cancer-that are so common in the American food chain?

America removes these known harmful ingredients when catering to the foriegn food market. What more do we need to know to figure out the obvious difference?

a reply to: Athetos

Canadians don't have access to private health insurance? Do Canadians give immigrants healthcare?

originally posted by: Boomer1947
a reply to: Threadbarer

Or the French, or the Italian, or the Spanish, or the Japanese.

After traveling to countries that provide better health care than in the US at lower costs, it continues to blow my mind that Americans think it's impossible to do better than our current system. That idea is just based on ignorance and arrogance.

Doing "better" is easy, if the demands are fewer and less urgent. I had a fishing guide in Canada who had us lift coolers because he had a hernia. A hernia that was to be repaired in 4 months. he didn't mind much.

Americans wouldn't want to wait 4 days for the operation, let alone 4 months.

It all boils down to what a given society is willing to tolerate.

originally posted by: WeMustCare
Tuesday, August 13, 2024

Based on recent comments from the woman who took part in the Coup against U.S. President Joe Biden, new Presidential candidate VP Kamala Harris is rekindling her 2019 promise to abolish private health insurance and replace it with healthcare run by the Federal Government... (Kamala ran for President in 2019, and was rejected by a staggering 98% of Democrat voters.)..

Virtually all progressives want a government-run, single-payer health care system. That includes Harris.

She was quick to support Sen. Bernie Sanders’ (I-Vt.) “Medicare for All” bill when she was in the Senate, though that title is misleading.

The bill does not put everyone in the federal Medicare program. Rather, the government takes over the health care system, raising taxes to pay for it.

You will not be able to keep your employer-provided health insurance nor opt out of the government system. “Kamalacare” would likely be very similar.

Now would be a good time to recall humorist P.J. O’Rourke’s famous observation, “If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it’s free.”

Before you decide on whether KamalaCare is a good idea, look at the the two countries most often pointed to as models for U.S. reform: England and Canada (hyperlinked.. See below).

More at: thehill.com...

ENGLAND STATUS: www.cnn.com...

CANADA STATUS: www.reuters.com...

Why does Harris-Walz want to get rid of the 3 systems we have now... 1.) Private and 2.) Government-run and 3.) Government-supported healthcare in the United States? Their system would take away our FREEDOM TO CHOOSE.

Didn't they learn from our rebellion against electric automobiles, and Covid-19 vaccinations, that Americans don't like things forced upon us?
😡

-WeMustCare

This is as true today as it was when Kamala first promised to invoke Government Healthcare, or pay for healthcare yourself, last year and 4 years ago.

SHE JUST LEARNED TO STOP TALKING ABOUT IT.

a reply to: KrustyKrab

Interestingly Kamala the liar has a campaign add targeting Trump as the bad guy that will hike the const of health care and medications, Plus the cost of food, she is promising that in exchange with her health care will be free for all, plus will control the prices of food.

Doesn't people know that the reason we got a mess in the US where everything cost more is due to her and biden.

Doesn't people know that the failed Obamacare was democrats.

Doesn't people know that you just can not sign an executive order and make all those empty promises come true.

Are people that dumb.

Said it before ill say it again..

The US govt cannot run health care, ive been to several terrible VA clinics, and 1 good clinic.

If they cant handle the small number of vets in the US how in hades will they be able to handle 350 million people.

originally posted by: Irishhaf
Said it before ill say it again..

The US govt cannot run health care, ive been to several terrible VA clinics, and 1 good clinic.

If they cant handle the small number of vets in the US how in hades will they be able to handle 350 million people.

Those doctors who stood next to Obama, with big smiles on their faces, when he was promoting the Affordable Care Act (aka ObamaCare), are now either fabulously wealthy, or struggling financially.

ObamaCare cut physicians pay because it's essentially government run, even though private companies administer it.

In general, The best physicians don't accept ObamaCare. They don't need to take the lower pay. They attract the well-to-do, from all over the world.