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originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: quintessentone
I thought the argument was that the rhetoric from both sides caused this.
I provided links to the left wing nut job talking points that appear to have radicalized this kid. Why have you not been able to provide sources for all the right wing talk that would drive someone to kill? I know why, but I'd like to hear your answer.
And I provided a Republican on Republican violence source but the usual dismissing of facts is in full swing.
Should I post J.D. Vance's right-wing anti-Trumper talk to prove my point? I feel that would not be necessary because I already made my point.
if your point is you can't back up your words, yep, made it well. But I'm done with your silliness. Troll on DERP.
originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: BigDuckEnergy
Cherry picking. And what percentage out of 444 politically motived murders were by Republicans?
originally posted by: BigDuckEnergy
originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: BigDuckEnergy
Cherry picking. And what percentage out of 444 politically motived murders were by Republicans?
If you can find me actual data from an non-biased entity, that would be great. I don't know why it matters if the right or left is more violent, frankly. We know people on both sides have been and will be violent. It solves nothing, fixes nothing, and honestly smacks of you victim blaming.
The only reason I even called out your post is because in my short tenure here you have a history of making people on the left side of things look like delusional nut bags posting crap like this and I certaintly hope people on here don't think I am in your camp because we are both on the left.
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: BigDuckEnergy
originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: BigDuckEnergy
Cherry picking. And what percentage out of 444 politically motived murders were by Republicans?
If you can find me actual data from an non-biased entity, that would be great. I don't know why it matters if the right or left is more violent, frankly. We know people on both sides have been and will be violent. It solves nothing, fixes nothing, and honestly smacks of you victim blaming.
The only reason I even called out your post is because in my short tenure here you have a history of making people on the left side of things look like delusional nut bags posting crap like this and I certaintly hope people on here don't think I am in your camp because we are both on the left.
It's members here that are making it an issue and if you just look at the news so are MAGA and other Republicans in high places, because it's a blame game and I want to call out the BS here in regards to that.
Both sides can be violent, my point is that the rhetoric on both sides may be to blame. But, hey, let's all look at the other.
originally posted by: BigDuckEnergy
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: BigDuckEnergy
originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: BigDuckEnergy
Cherry picking. And what percentage out of 444 politically motived murders were by Republicans?
If you can find me actual data from an non-biased entity, that would be great. I don't know why it matters if the right or left is more violent, frankly. We know people on both sides have been and will be violent. It solves nothing, fixes nothing, and honestly smacks of you victim blaming.
The only reason I even called out your post is because in my short tenure here you have a history of making people on the left side of things look like delusional nut bags posting crap like this and I certaintly hope people on here don't think I am in your camp because we are both on the left.
It's members here that are making it an issue and if you just look at the news so are MAGA and other Republicans in high places, because it's a blame game and I want to call out the BS here in regards to that.
Both sides can be violent, my point is that the rhetoric on both sides may be to blame. But, hey, let's all look at the other.
Why are you ignoring the fact that the way people on the left reacted to this whole trump situation was vile? 15 minutes after the fact the top three trending twitter topics were "how did you miss" "they missed" and "trump shooting hoax". We have throngs of people, as high up as congress, recounting how "target practice" would help in the future. Why are we, as a society, handwaving this behavior away?
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: BigDuckEnergy
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: BigDuckEnergy
originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: BigDuckEnergy
Cherry picking. And what percentage out of 444 politically motived murders were by Republicans?
If you can find me actual data from an non-biased entity, that would be great. I don't know why it matters if the right or left is more violent, frankly. We know people on both sides have been and will be violent. It solves nothing, fixes nothing, and honestly smacks of you victim blaming.
The only reason I even called out your post is because in my short tenure here you have a history of making people on the left side of things look like delusional nut bags posting crap like this and I certaintly hope people on here don't think I am in your camp because we are both on the left.
It's members here that are making it an issue and if you just look at the news so are MAGA and other Republicans in high places, because it's a blame game and I want to call out the BS here in regards to that.
Both sides can be violent, my point is that the rhetoric on both sides may be to blame. But, hey, let's all look at the other.
Why are you ignoring the fact that the way people on the left reacted to this whole trump situation was vile? 15 minutes after the fact the top three trending twitter topics were "how did you miss" "they missed" and "trump shooting hoax". We have throngs of people, as high up as congress, recounting how "target practice" would help in the future. Why are we, as a society, handwaving this behavior away?
Both sides are acting badly, that's the whole point and so it will continue and this type of violence will continue and then become normalized.
originally posted by: BigDuckEnergy
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: BigDuckEnergy
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: BigDuckEnergy
originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: BigDuckEnergy
Cherry picking. And what percentage out of 444 politically motived murders were by Republicans?
If you can find me actual data from an non-biased entity, that would be great. I don't know why it matters if the right or left is more violent, frankly. We know people on both sides have been and will be violent. It solves nothing, fixes nothing, and honestly smacks of you victim blaming.
The only reason I even called out your post is because in my short tenure here you have a history of making people on the left side of things look like delusional nut bags posting crap like this and I certaintly hope people on here don't think I am in your camp because we are both on the left.
It's members here that are making it an issue and if you just look at the news so are MAGA and other Republicans in high places, because it's a blame game and I want to call out the BS here in regards to that.
Both sides can be violent, my point is that the rhetoric on both sides may be to blame. But, hey, let's all look at the other.
Why are you ignoring the fact that the way people on the left reacted to this whole trump situation was vile? 15 minutes after the fact the top three trending twitter topics were "how did you miss" "they missed" and "trump shooting hoax". We have throngs of people, as high up as congress, recounting how "target practice" would help in the future. Why are we, as a society, handwaving this behavior away?
Both sides are acting badly, that's the whole point and so it will continue and this type of violence will continue and then become normalized.
Again, this isn't helpful and you are excusing bad behavior. Why isn't there both side bad behavior trending on Twitter? What even registers on the right post shooting that even comes close to tenacious d wishing they had not missed on a concert stage?
Last fall the left-wing cable news outlet gave a platform to anti-Trump strategist Rick Wilson who called for a "bullet" to be sent into the body of Donald Trump
“Violence and threats against elected leaders are suppressing the emergence of a pro-democracy faction of the GOP,” writes Rachel Kleinfeld, an expert on political violence at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. Absent threats, Kleinfeld argues, a move to Trump from inside the party — perhaps a more serious challenge in the presidential primary — might have had a better chance of getting off the ground.
In her paper, Kleinfeld notes a striking example of this effect at work — a comment by Kim Ward, the Trump-supporting Republican leader of the Pennsylvania state Senate, on what would happen if she spoke out against the former president.
“I’d get my house bombed tonight,” Ward said.
originally posted by: marg6043
I do not know it is just me, but Trump looks like a different man when he entered the convention, his face has changed a lot.
He actually looks more human and humbler.
Sorry but that is what I see.