Trump backs Louisiana law requiring Ten Commandments in schools

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Vermilion

originally posted by: Annee
A spokesperson of the Hindu community is seeking to have ancient Sanskrit scriptures displayed in public classrooms alongside the Ten Commandments.

"the Ten Commandments have had a significant impact on the development of secular legal codes of the Western World”

Would the author be: William Federer?

About the author (2016)

William J. Federer is a Senior Fellow at the D. James Kennedy Center for Christian Statesmanship a ministry of Evangelism Explosion International. A nationally known speaker and best-selling author of over 20 books, his America's God and Country Encyclopedia of Quotations has sold over a half-million copies. A former Congressional candidate, his daily American Minute radio feature and popular Faith in History television program are broadcast nationally.

No.
The quote I used was from Supreme Court Justice Rehnquist.
I posted his exact same quote a page or so back. en.m.wikipedia.org...

What reason does the Hindu have for wanting to post that unrelated nonsense(Sanskrit scripture) in a western world school?

originally posted by: Vermilion

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Vermilion

originally posted by: Annee
A spokesperson of the Hindu community is seeking to have ancient Sanskrit scriptures displayed in public classrooms alongside the Ten Commandments.

"the Ten Commandments have had a significant impact on the development of secular legal codes of the Western World”

Would the author be: William Federer?

About the author (2016)

William J. Federer is a Senior Fellow at the D. James Kennedy Center for Christian Statesmanship a ministry of Evangelism Explosion International. A nationally known speaker and best-selling author of over 20 books, his America's God and Country Encyclopedia of Quotations has sold over a half-million copies. A former Congressional candidate, his daily American Minute radio feature and popular Faith in History television program are broadcast nationally.

No.
The quote I used was from Supreme Court Justice Rehnquist.

Not impressed: Tenure as associate justice. On the Court, Rehnquist promptly established himself as Nixon's most conservative appointee, taking a narrow view of the Fourteenth Amendment and a broad view of state power in domestic policy.

dissent. n. 1) the opinion of a judge of a court of appeals, including the U.S. Supreme Court, which disagrees with the majority opinion

And, yes of course, he was Christian.

a reply to: Vermilion

What reason does the Hindu have for wanting to post that unrelated nonsense in a western world school?

There's room on their wall for Latin, Sanskrit, Hebrew, Arabic, Choctaw, Mandarin, and Celtic.

Western World ≠ Moses. That's the Levantine world. It traveled to the Western World. Honestly, Jesus came to America and raped the "spirit of the buffalo" to its "native" Oklahoma, because you know, some guy said he had a divine vision once. Gag.

And the religions we come up with are usually from New York or Pennsylvania and read things out of tophats, and are usually versions of Christianity. And when they're not of Christian orogeny they were created by a bet between a pedophile and a rocket dude at a Thelema gathering.

Abraham god doesn't have provenance. Massachusetts was the last state to ban its state church in 1833, and that was done to pull it conceptually in line with THE SPIRIT of the First Amendment for no state to have a "State Church".

Apart from places like Eastern Europe and Latin America, American religiousity is against the trend of the west. Especially compared to places like Sweden and The Czech Republic. In MOST of Europe (The Western World) Our religiousity is an amusement because it's viewed as somewhat locked in time. We're proclivity repressed puritan prudes to the people in Prague. We're actually alliteratively alienated from the rest of the Western World when we do our "One True God" sh*t.

a reply to: Annee

Not impressed: Tenure as associate justice.

Associate Justice 1972-1986
Chief Justice 1986-2005
Was right to dissent on Roe in ‘73
WW2 veteran
At least give the man his proper credentials.

What reason does the Hindu have for wanting to post that unrelated nonsense(Sanskrit scripture) in a western world school?
Is there a reason other than religion?

a reply to: Vermilion

"the Ten Commandments have had a significant impact on the development of secular legal codes of the Western World”

That is such a load of garbage! What law has the Western World derived from the 10 Commandments? Other than admonishments killing and stealing, and even those are contingent, and not absolute in the Bible or in western culture, most of those "commandments" are downright unamerican and an affront to the Constitution.

The majority of the 1st 5 books of the Bible are books of law, and were derived from the Code of Hammurabi, not Moses.

ETA:

Claiming that the Ten Commandments are part of our “national history, culture, and tradition,” the statute suggests that they serve as the foundation of American law. This, too, flies in the face of facts. When legal historian Steven K. Green pored through materials from Founding Era-debates over the formation of our legal and governmental systems, he discovered that appeals to the Ten Commandments were conspicuously absent.

No matter how frequently Christian nationalists claim that our country was founded on the Ten Commandments, it simply is not true.

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originally posted by: Annee
A spokesperson of the Hindu community is seeking to have ancient Sanskrit scriptures displayed in public classrooms alongside the Ten Commandments.

Which States are they drafting legislation? 😃

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: Annee
A spokesperson of the Hindu community is seeking to have ancient Sanskrit scriptures displayed in public classrooms alongside the Ten Commandments.

Which States are they drafting legislation? 😃

Explain your question.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

That is such a load of garbage! What law has the Western World derived from the 10 Commandments? Other than admonishments killing and stealing, and even those are contingent, and not absolute in the Bible or in western culture, most of those "commandments" are downright unamerican and an affront to the Constitution.

You couldn’t be more wrong, and here’s why…,

“At a more general level, the Ten Commandments reflect the historical reality that many early efforts at regulating human conduct had religious origins. In fact, in 1997, the House and Senate passed concurrent resolutions acknowledging that (i) “the Ten Commandments have had a significant impact on the development of the fundamental legal principles of Western Civilization,” (ii) “ the Ten Commandments set forth a code of moral conduct, observance of which is universally acknowledged to promote respect for our system of laws and the good of society,” and (iii) “the Ten Commandments are a declaration of fundamental principles that are the cornerstone of a fair and just society.”
www.justice.gov...

a reply to: Vermilion

Reminds me of a God believer explaining atheism to me.

Laws come from common sense, life experience, and need.

a reply to: Vermilion

At a more general level, the Ten Commandments reflect the historical reality that many early efforts at regulating human conduct had religious origins.

Yeah, Yeah, we all know about "The Divine Right of Kings. We all know that religion was used to try and control people, and when priests weren't good enough at it, the warrior brutes who won their kingdoms through violence, claimed to be "sons of god" ordained by god(s), to rule over the little people. We know that the Pharaohs had their written religious laws, the Babylonian kings had their written divine law, the Persian and Oriental Emperors retained their divine right to rule from the gods.

America is a governmental experiment that moves beyond the divine right of kings".

These pleas to heavenly authority from American lawmakers are a desperate cry for help from a congress that needs to wrap themselves in piety and fall back on the Bible and the "divine right" of rulers to dictate purpose and morality to the American people.

It's especially rich that they're trying this again, at a time in history when it couldn't be more obvious just how unamerican the 10 Commandments actually are. Imagine, students standing for the "Pledge", hand over their hearts, and they look at the wall right next to the flag and it says "THOU SHALL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE ME.

Jeeez, they might as well post Romans 13 too! That'd really set them up to claim to divine rights.

“ the Ten Commandments set forth a code of moral conduct, observance of which is universally acknowledged to promote respect for our system of laws and the good of society,”

THOU SHALL NOT KILL
THOU SHALL NOT STEAL

America was built on theft and murder, and a whole of lot of false testimony.

I repeat, what a load of garbage!

a reply to: Sookiechacha

It's especially rich that they're trying this again, at a time in history when it couldn't be more obvious just how unamerican the 10 Commandments actually are.

This is what happens when the lunatics in charge are full throttle pushing their racist DEI, pro trans lgbt 200 gender anti woman, and child grooming agendas.
Those agendas are nation destroying degeneracy.
That little piece of paper will do zero harm to zero kids.
It’s already destroyed your thinking but you won’t have to worry because you’re not a Louisiana kid in school.
The Ten Commandments do serve as a positive secular addition to schools.

a reply to: Vermilion

This is what happens when the lunatics in charge are full throttle pushing their racist DEI, pro trans lgbt 200 gender anti woman, and child grooming agendas.

That has NOTHING to do with the 10 Commandments. As a matter of fact, the 10 Commandments do nothing to protect children from groomers, gender dysphoria, same sex attraction or racism. They don't even begin to touch on diversity, inclusion and equality.

Our Constitution protects freedom of religion, free speech and the study of things of earth, water and sky, something the 10 Commandments forbid. Our capitalistic economic system works 7 days a week and depends on people spending the money they earn on cool stuff that they don't necessarily need; all things the 10 Commandments forbid.

Does our society honor children's parents? Not really. You think waving the 10 Commandments at a judge is going to get that dead beat dad, or that alcoholic mother, custody over his kids? Will it stop Border Control from separating families at the border?

Here, this just popped up in my feed.

Public Schools Ordered to Incorporate Bibles Effective Immediately

See? So don't tell me it's just a piece of paper that nobody is being forced to read. It's just another step in the pre-meditated chipping away at our 1st Amendment rights, rights that defy the 10 Commandments.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Vermilion

At a more general level, the Ten Commandments reflect the historical reality that many early efforts at regulating human conduct had religious origins.

Yeah, Yeah, we all know about "The Divine Right of Kings. We all know that religion was used to try and control people, and when priests weren't good enough at it, the warrior brutes who won their kingdoms through violence, claimed to be "sons of god" ordained by god(s), to rule over the little people. We know that the Pharaohs had their written religious laws, the Babylonian kings had their written divine law, the Persian and Oriental Emperors retained their divine right to rule from the gods.

America is a governmental experiment that moves beyond the divine right of kings".

These pleas to heavenly authority from American lawmakers are a desperate cry for help from a congress that needs to wrap themselves in piety and fall back on the Bible and the "divine right" of rulers to dictate purpose and morality to the American people.

It's especially rich that they're trying this again, at a time in history when it couldn't be more obvious just how unamerican the 10 Commandments actually are. Imagine, students standing for the "Pledge", hand over their hearts, and they look at the wall right next to the flag and it says "THOU SHALL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE ME.

Jeeez, they might as well post Romans 13 too! That'd really set them up to claim to divine rights.

“ the Ten Commandments set forth a code of moral conduct, observance of which is universally acknowledged to promote respect for our system of laws and the good of society,”

THOU SHALL NOT KILL
THOU SHALL NOT STEAL

America was built on theft and murder, and a whole of lot of false testimony.

I repeat, what a load of garbage!

Excellent post!

And we know those who came to America because of religious persecution is total garbage. They tried to do what the Christian Nationalists are trying to do now. They tried to make God law.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha

Here, this just popped up in my feed.

Public Schools Ordered to Incorporate Bibles Effective Immediately

See? So don't tell me it's just a piece of paper that nobody is being forced to read. It's just another step in the pre-meditated chipping away at our 1st Amendment rights, rights that defy the 10 Commandments.

Saw that this morning.

I personally think this God push is going to backfire. Especially on the SCOTUS.

originally posted by: Vermilion

The Ten Commandments do serve as a positive secular addition to schools.

ABSOLUTELY NOT!

a reply to: Sookiechacha

So don't tell me it's just a piece of paper that nobody is being forced to read.

It’s just a piece of paper nobody is being forced to read.
Nobody is being forced to even look at it or talk about it.
There is no mandate for any of those things.
Check your facts.

originally posted by: Vermilion
a reply to: Sookiechacha

So don't tell me it's just a piece of paper that nobody is being forced to read.

It’s just a piece of paper nobody is being forced to read.
Nobody is being forced to even look at it or talk about it.
There is no mandate for any of those things.
Check your facts.

Plenty more types of posters that can be pinned up on the wall.

For kids to ignore.

Because they're not being forced to read them.

THE SEVEN FUNDAMENTAL TENENTS OF THE SANTANIC TEMPLE

I - One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason.
II - The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions.
III - One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone.
IV - The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one's own.
V - Beliefs should conform to one's best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one's beliefs.
VI - People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one's best to rectify it and resolve any harm that might have been caused.
VII - Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Sookiechacha

Here, this just popped up in my feed.

Public Schools Ordered to Incorporate Bibles Effective Immediately

See? So don't tell me it's just a piece of paper that nobody is being forced to read. It's just another step in the pre-meditated chipping away at our 1st Amendment rights, rights that defy the 10 Commandments.

Saw that this morning.

I personally think this God push is going to backfire. Especially on the SCOTUS.

It’s a win win.
SCOTUS can easily give the Louisiana law the green light based on the secular argument. One excellent feature about that particular argument is that those silly satanists have no standing to include their own degenerate piece of paper.
Similar to the laughable Hindu lawsuit.
Regardless how the courts rule at the end of the day, it’s got many more people talking about the Ten Commandments.
Even some who absolutely despise them.
Win win.

originally posted by: Vermilion

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Sookiechacha

Here, this just popped up in my feed.

Public Schools Ordered to Incorporate Bibles Effective Immediately

See? So don't tell me it's just a piece of paper that nobody is being forced to read. It's just another step in the pre-meditated chipping away at our 1st Amendment rights, rights that defy the 10 Commandments.

Saw that this morning.

I personally think this God push is going to backfire. Especially on the SCOTUS.

It’s a win win.
SCOTUS can easily give the Louisiana law the green light based on the secular argument. One excellent feature about that particular argument is that those silly satanists have no standing to include their own degenerate piece of paper.
Similar to the laughable Hindu lawsuit.
Regardless how the courts rule at the end of the day, it’s got many more people talking about the Ten Commandments.
Even some who absolutely despise them.
Win win.

SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE

NO OTHER OPTION.