Trump backs Louisiana law requiring Ten Commandments in schools

a reply to: Sookiechacha

Yeah, because we have never seen SCOTUS rulings overturned...

Sigh....

Again, if this lined up with your ideologies(no matter how off kilter they are), you would have no problem with it. But it doesn't so you do

originally posted by: Sookiechacha

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Vermilion

Louisiana isn’t imposing religious doctrine on anybody.
It’s a little piece of paper on a wall.

Can you please tell us the first line of this "little piece of paper" that the State of Louisiana is MANDATING be placed in every public school classroom from kindergatern to college, in a place easy to see and large enough that it is easy to read?

should the art displayed on the SCOTUS building be ruled unconstitutional as well?

nathanielsegal.mysite.com...#:~:text=Moses%20is%20depicted%20in%20the,written%20from%20right%20to%20le ft.

The very first line from your link:

The doors of the Supreme Court chamber don't literally have "the Ten Commandments engraved on each lower portion."

Why do you hate the 1st Amendment?

explain why I hate the first amendment.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Vermilion

Louisiana isn’t imposing religious doctrine on anybody.
It’s a little piece of paper on a wall.

Can you please tell us the first line of this "little piece of paper" that the State of Louisiana is MANDATING be placed in every public school classroom from kindergatern to college, in a place easy to see and large enough that it is easy to read?

should the art displayed on the SCOTUS building be ruled unconstitutional as well?

nathanielsegal.mysite.com...#:~:text=Moses%20is%20depicted%20in%20the,written%20from%20right%20to%20le ft.

There have been rulings on permanently carved walls, etc.

Some have been covered up. Others have been left as is.

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originally posted by: Sookiechacha

Non-sequitur.

What other constitutional rights, besides freedom of religion, would you like to see taken from the people and passed on to the states?

Any one that gets you all worked up is fine with me.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha

originally posted by: Vermilion

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Vermilion

Louisiana isn’t imposing religious doctrine on anybody.
It’s a little piece of paper on a wall.

Can you please tell us the first line of this "little piece of paper" that the State of Louisiana is MANDATING be placed in every public school classroom from kindergatern to college, in a place easy to see and large enough that it is easy to read?

Can you please tell us what exactly the state is mandating the children look at, read, practice or otherwise even acknowledge.

“Thou shalt have no other gods before me.”

That's the first line of the "little piece of paper" that the State of Louisiana is mandating must be posted in every classroom, from kindergarten to college.

It is an act of imposing a certain god and its religion and religious doctrine on all the students and staff within the public schools in the state. It is a blatant violation of the 1st Amendment.

Louisiana is not mandating that anybody read, ponder, question, deny, look at, nor even acknowledge that little harmless piece of paper on the wall.
If you disagree then please post any kind of evidence that any of those things are mandated.

Porkchop had a very good point so I’ll repost for you..,

Now, if they were putting it on the walls and teaching a full section on it and saying you have to follow these commandments, then yes you would have a leg to stand on with the 1st amendment BS. But they are not, so you don't.

originally posted by: Vermilion
Now, if they were putting it on the walls and teaching a full section on it and saying you have to follow these commandments, then yes you would have a leg to stand on with the 1st amendment BS. But they are not, so you don't.

She doesn't get it; I have already said that unless they mandate a religion then it isn't the 1st. Then when I ask about Muslim prayer rooms in most schools now, and that they get out of school early on Fridays for the Friday prayers what about that?

I don't have a problem with either, but some here call one religion diversity and the other fascism.

The thread title actually is.

Trump backs Louisiana law requiring Ten Commandments in schools

He’s just fishing for votes.

As if he cares about the 10 Commandments.

a reply to: Vermilion

Louisiana is not mandating that anybody read, ponder, question, deny, look at, nor even acknowledge that little harmless piece of paper on the wall.

If that's the case, what's it there for then? What is the purpose of mandating a harmless little piece of paper be placed on the wall in every public-school classroom, from kindergarten to college, in a way that's easy to see and read?

Such a BIG law for such a little piece of paper, especially since it's going to cost the state taxpayers so much money in legal fees to defend!

What's it all for?

Porkchop had a very good point so I’ll repost for you..,

No he didn't. His point is moot. I'll repeat for you why that is.

Stone v. Graham, 449 U.S. 39 (1980), was a court case in which the Supreme Court of the United States ruled that a Kentucky statute was unconstitutional and in violation of the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment, because it lacked a nonreligious, legislative purpose. The statute required the posting of a copy of the Ten Commandments on the wall of each public classroom in the state.

en.wikipedia.org...

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Vermilion

Louisiana is not mandating that anybody read, ponder, question, deny, look at, nor even acknowledge that little harmless piece of paper on the wall.

If that's the case, what's it there for then? What is the purpose of mandating a harmless little piece of paper be placed on the wall in every public-school classroom, from kindergarten to college, in a way that's easy to see and read?

Such a BIG law for such a little piece of paper, especially since it's going to cost the state taxpayers so much money in legal fees to defend!

What's it all for?

Dare I say.

Pushing an agenda.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

You’d have to ask a Louisianan.
Those people have spoken.
I’m guessing a majority of them want it there on the wall.
Just my guess.

Such a big law?
Don’t worry about the costs, the taxpayers have a endless supply.
Just ask Jack Smith.
He just flaunted that fact in Trumps classified docs case.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

I’ll remind you like I reminded Annee that the Kentucky case was decided 5-4.

With this 6-3 current Christian nationalist dominionist court, can you not see Louisiana prevailing?

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Vermilion

Louisiana is not mandating that anybody read, ponder, question, deny, look at, nor even acknowledge that little harmless piece of paper on the wall.

If that's the case, what's it there for then? What is the purpose of mandating a harmless little piece of paper be placed on the wall in every public-school classroom, from kindergarten to college, in a way that's easy to see and read?

Such a BIG law for such a little piece of paper, especially since it's going to cost the state taxpayers so much money in legal fees to defend!

What's it all for?

Dare I say.

Pushing an agenda.

I moved my family halfway across the country so my son could go to an amazing school.

The betterment of schools is an awesome agenda.
Who could ever disagree with that?

originally posted by: Vermilion
a reply to: Sookiechacha

I’ll remind you like I reminded Annee that the Kentucky case was decided 5-4.

With this 6-3 current Christian nationalist dominionist court, can you not see Louisiana prevailing?

I wouldn't put anything past this obviously corrupt Court, especially after today's ruling that gifts and gratuities given to public officials, politicians and judges after the fact, are not "bribes".

But, you DO think that the posting of the 10 Commandments is a religious endorsement, right? You just think the court should rule that state sponsored religious endorsements are perfectly constitutional, right?

originally posted by: Vermilion

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Vermilion

Louisiana is not mandating that anybody read, ponder, question, deny, look at, nor even acknowledge that little harmless piece of paper on the wall.

If that's the case, what's it there for then? What is the purpose of mandating a harmless little piece of paper be placed on the wall in every public-school classroom, from kindergarten to college, in a way that's easy to see and read?

Such a BIG law for such a little piece of paper, especially since it's going to cost the state taxpayers so much money in legal fees to defend!

What's it all for?

Dare I say.

Pushing an agenda.

I moved my family halfway across the country so my son could go to an amazing school.

The betterment of schools is an awesome agenda.
Who could ever disagree with that?

My kid is Autistic and non-religious.

Define “better” school.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Vermilion

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Vermilion

Louisiana is not mandating that anybody read, ponder, question, deny, look at, nor even acknowledge that little harmless piece of paper on the wall.

If that's the case, what's it there for then? What is the purpose of mandating a harmless little piece of paper be placed on the wall in every public-school classroom, from kindergarten to college, in a way that's easy to see and read?

Such a BIG law for such a little piece of paper, especially since it's going to cost the state taxpayers so much money in legal fees to defend!

What's it all for?

Dare I say.

Pushing an agenda.

I moved my family halfway across the country so my son could go to an amazing school.

The betterment of schools is an awesome agenda.
Who could ever disagree with that?

My kid is Autistic and non-religious.

Define “better” school.

My son has autism as well.
The California school districts acted like they gave a crap but they just wanted the money they get for him.
They promised accommodations and help.
Nothing.
Just biannual zoom meetings with incompetent woke bureaucrats acting as health professionals.
So I hired his ABA to go to class with him.
Imagine how bad those schools became during Covid.

Anyway, now he’s thriving by himself in mainstream classes.
I don’t have to have an ABA in his classes anymore.
He doesn’t need them there.
When he needs accommodations this district is on it.

originally posted by: Vermilion
a reply to: Sookiechacha

I’ll remind you like I reminded Annee that the Kentucky case was decided 5-4.

With this 6-3 current Christian nationalist dominionist court, can you not see Louisiana prevailing?

NO. This is clear violation.

I’ve been following Dominionism for many years. Christian Nationalists have been getting more media attention the last few years.

I think it’s going to backfire as more and more people consider themselves non-religious.

SCOTUS is already on high alert from some of their judgments.

originally posted by: Vermilion

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Vermilion

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Vermilion

Louisiana is not mandating that anybody read, ponder, question, deny, look at, nor even acknowledge that little harmless piece of paper on the wall.

If that's the case, what's it there for then? What is the purpose of mandating a harmless little piece of paper be placed on the wall in every public-school classroom, from kindergarten to college, in a way that's easy to see and read?

Such a BIG law for such a little piece of paper, especially since it's going to cost the state taxpayers so much money in legal fees to defend!

What's it all for?

Dare I say.

Pushing an agenda.

I moved my family halfway across the country so my son could go to an amazing school.

The betterment of schools is an awesome agenda.
Who could ever disagree with that?

My kid is Autistic and non-religious.

Define “better” school.

My son has autism as well.
The California school districts acted like they gave a crap but they just wanted the money they get for him.
They promised accommodations and help.
Nothing.
Just biannual zoom meetings with incompetent woke bureaucrats acting as health professionals.
So I hired his ABA to go to class with him.
Imagine how bad those schools became during Covid.

Anyway, now he’s thriving by himself in mainstream classes.
I don’t have to have an ABA in his classes anymore.
He doesn’t need them there.
When he needs accommodations this district is on it.

Depends on the school — not the state.

I’ve always had excellent assistants.

However, junior year is going to be more challenging.

He can’t do math. I sent a tray of play money to his case manager. They played store with him — teaching him money. More practical then algebra.

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Back on topic —. He does not need the 10 Commandments.