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'Long Live October 7' Theme of NYC Pro-Palestine Protest

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posted on Jun, 14 2024 @ 10:58 AM
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Ok, if they say I want the Jews dead from the river Jordan to the sea, do you think that doesn't mean how it reads? You might want to be considering that thought again with a slightly different eye to the problem. I hope you want to do that.


originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: CarlLaFong

I have no doubt some of them are pro Hamas. But I think it’s hyperbolic to say any critical opinion of Israel’s action is pro hamas.

That would be like saying everyone who is pro Israel is anti free speech because of the antisemitism bill.

Not everything can be spoken in absolutes, and I’d go further to say few things in politics or geopolitics can be.

This just feels like the constant “if you’re not with _____, you’re a Nazi”. You can replace Nazi with any of the buzzword du jour.



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posted on Jun, 14 2024 @ 11:00 AM
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originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
I think it’s hyperbolic to say any critical opinion of Israel’s action is pro hamas.

Celebrating Oct 7 absolutely IS being pro-Hamas.

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posted on Jun, 14 2024 @ 11:00 AM
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a reply to: Justoneman

Judaism is like a portable suitcase filled with culture, religion and ethnicity all in one. As soon as you say 'cabal' you reveal yourself as a certain type of person with certain views



posted on Jun, 14 2024 @ 11:04 AM
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originally posted by: TheMinstrel
a reply to: Justoneman

Judaism is like a portable suitcase filled with culture, religion and ethnicity all in one. As soon as you say 'cabal' you reveal yourself as a certain type of person with certain views


Truly, people need to be understanding there is a Cabal before you can address the problems they are creating. It is scientifically proven that when you can't define the issues in a situation, you cannot begin to make it right. If you mislabel data in the lab, it will ruin the final product.



posted on Jun, 14 2024 @ 11:16 AM
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a reply to: Justoneman

Oy vey! You are a real one! There is no cabal, no space lasers, no Jewish conspiracy. We just want to live and that basic right to existence is continually denied us by the goyim throughout history. I suppose we should not be surprised you are doing it again. Guess what. The Jewish people live. Your little conspiracy theories cannot destroy thousands of years of Judaism and a people who eventually come back to their roots. What really irritates me is the constant gaslighting, the fake Jews planted in your little protests, your blood libels and your re writes of history time and time again. Unfortunately there are masses of people who are not malicious, but who are stupid and easily led. Just like last time, when the Germans started this stuff, all it took were people who dumbly went along with the plan. Dangerous stupidity, resentment and a feeling of inferiority is a heady and dangerous combination. Now, if you will forgive me, this Jew does not interact with those kind of people.



posted on Jun, 14 2024 @ 11:19 AM
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a reply to: TheMinstrel

AGREED.

But for this one point.
I don't believe it to be a Jewish Conspiracy at all. They are the victims of it like America is under the knife from the same group. It is an international entity we fight not the Hebrew tribes.

Should we blame all who live in America for our KKK's crimes against humanity?

NO, and nor should we blame Jews for some international evil empire that is using them for cannon fodder.


What a fool to think of gentiles as Goyim. You will learn one day that superiority is like respect, you have to earn it. To earn the first you have to be an ass hole. To earn respect you have to have tempered that inner ass hole.
Blessings and shalom.
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posted on Jun, 14 2024 @ 11:25 AM
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That spirit that was lifted off of King Saul and handed to King David was left for us goyim to be our inner guide as a gift until the King of Israel returns in the clouds with a great flash. Imagine what that feels like when you ask for the gift of the Holy spirit and you will understand why Christians are the way we are and other religions are confused as to what it is really about for us.
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posted on Jun, 14 2024 @ 11:33 AM
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a reply to: Justoneman

I bet you don't consider the Ashkenazi Jews to be Jews, and so are labelling actual Jews as not Jews, to get around the antisemitism accusations.
Goyim literally means nations. It is not a slur. Don't be so soft. You proved my point about inferiority complex. We are Jews, you are goyim, no one said goyim were inferior, just different. Get over it.
Just the typical Germanic yawn fest. The Jewish people live and that includes the Ashkenazim.
Gentile is a christian word. To me, you are Goyim. How uninformed you are to react in this way.

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posted on Jun, 14 2024 @ 11:40 AM
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originally posted by: Justoneman
a reply to: TheMinstrel

What a fool to think of gentiles as Goyim. You will learn one day that superiority is like respect, you have to earn it. To earn the first you have to be an ass hole. To earn respect you have to have tempered that inner ass hole.
Blessings and shalom.


Goyim is not a slur by Jews against anyone.
It simply means non-Jew.

Nazis and KKK have been known to call themselves 'Goy' as a personal sign of supremacy over Jews.



posted on Jun, 14 2024 @ 11:48 AM
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a reply to: TheMinstrel

Glad you are posting.

I've taken enough crap for calling myself a Zionist.


Bummed about no space lasers though.

That would have been #ing epic.



posted on Jun, 14 2024 @ 11:51 AM
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a reply to: CarlLaFong
Addressed to wrong poster!


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posted on Jun, 14 2024 @ 11:54 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Hello! Are you Jewish? Yeah, sad to say, no space lasers . . . at least that is what we have to tell everybody..(joke! joke!).. There is, however Moshiach, who needs to come now.
To call yourself a zionist simply means that you believe that Jewish people have the right to their homeland in Israel, as proved by archeology and other physical proof. I am sorry you have suffered for defending Jewish people, whether you are Jewish or not. If you are not, then doubly thank you!



posted on Jun, 14 2024 @ 11:54 AM
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a reply to: TheMinstrel
Thank you.

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posted on Jun, 14 2024 @ 11:55 AM
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a reply to: Justoneman

Just to make it clear - Adonai ECHAD. G_d is ONE. Not three. So, there is no point talking that polytheistic stuff to me.



posted on Jun, 14 2024 @ 11:56 AM
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a reply to: CarlLaFong

No! Not in the slightest. I am not used to posting here, Carl and so accidentally replied to your post not the ahem...anti zionist. I apologize if it came across that way. Thank you so much for the support.



posted on Jun, 14 2024 @ 11:57 AM
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a reply to: Justoneman
THe literal meaning of the words is 'nations' signifying people who are from other than the tribes of Israel. It is not a slur. I do not want, nor need to earn the respect of anyone. I conduct myself as best I can, and do not allow myself to be bullied into being a self hating Jew. You believe in a polytheistic cult - that is up to you. As far as I am concerned the 7 Noahide laws are for you, you rejected them, and that is nothing to do with the Jews. . I have no desire to please the xians nor to indulge them, they simply do not matter to me at all. All of that xian stuff is absolutely meaningless and without any importance. You do what you do, but unfortunately it is now causing pain and suffering to others, and that is not ok. I know one thing only - Hashem does not change his mind and does not make a mistake. I am so sorry you fell for a lie, but do not use it against Jews, to justify inventing conspiracies against us, and causing us to be in danger and cut off from participation in education and society in general.



posted on Jun, 14 2024 @ 11:59 AM
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originally posted by: TheMinstrel

To call yourself a zionist simply means that you believe that Jewish people have the right to their homeland in Israel, as proved by archeology and other physical proof. I am sorry you have suffered for defending Jewish people, whether you are Jewish or not. If you are not, then doubly thank you!


SO much this, and it is an honor to stand side-by-side.



posted on Jun, 14 2024 @ 12:03 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

I consider those like you and Carl (again sorry Carl, I replied to the wrong post) , who stand beside Jews now, to be on the same level as the Doctor that saved my grandfather from the Nazis and those who hid my Grandmother. I consider you to be on the same level as those who fed them and hid them at great risk to themselves and without whom I would not have been born. Thank you. It is a honor on my side too. Thank you so very much. I know it is costly.



posted on Jun, 14 2024 @ 12:08 PM
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a reply to: TheMinstrel

Your voice is needed in these threads.
Perhaps, now more than ever.

Please know you are welcome here and that you are not alone.
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posted on Jun, 14 2024 @ 12:17 PM
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a reply to: CarlLaFong

I had taken myself off line. Removed myself from social media and hidden away. It was too painful, but I see the war is being lost in public opinion and online and I at least have the duty to use words to try and turn the tide in my own small way. It is not an easy thing, and it does not feel safe, but I do see there are others, holding the fort. I will do my best. It is the rise of the old fashioned Nazi which is troubling me. I am Orthodox and observant. By that I mean I dress frum (or modestly), I eat kosher, I keep a kosher household, I daven (pray) and I keep by the laws as best I can. I want a peace deal, but not at any cost. I believe in the Jewish right to their homeland. I am not a fantastic scholar but can hold my own. I believe that the Jewish people cannot get out of this trouble by baking challah for their neighbors and smiling, but it certainly does not hurt. However, that did not save my family in WW2. On both sides there were very few survivors of my family, who were exiled in Eastern Europe. If anyone shows any interest I am happy to do an ask me anything kind of thread?




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