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The Five Reasons To Believe Communism Is Coming To America

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posted on Jun, 8 2024 @ 07:07 PM
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a reply to: cherokeetroy


Tell me, why should the Saudi's put their faith in the US dollar when there are so many willing to wage a civil war in this country; made evident by plenty of posts on ATS. What happens to the dollar then?

I'm preparing for a civil war, buying guns and ammo with every bit of disposable income I have.




US Political Madness


Yes, indeed...



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posted on Jun, 9 2024 @ 02:19 AM
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originally posted by: Justoneman

originally posted by: bastion
The US is a neo-liberal, capitalist society bordering on pure corporatocracy (via lobbying). There's nothing remotely communist or socialist about it, the US has the worst workers rights of any developed nation and worse than most third world countries for paId paternity leave.

It's just a dogwhistle phrase used by people who don't know what it means, same way extremists on the US left try and label all right wingers as Nazis.


We who see this coming like a slow motion train wreck say GET OFF THAT TRAIN, it is headed to communism. Read Marx and you will see these are steps in the path. There is one playbook and the "whatever bastion calls them today" is a step to where we will be if they get their way.

Read "Rules for Radicals" to catch up to where the rest of us are on our scientific approach to their methods. They are using tried and true social practices to get to the long goal of communistic world lead by one leader, or group.



I've read Marx and Engels but can't see how the US could be remotely similar. to Socialism or Communism - both Reps and Dems are right wing authoritarians.

None of the parties want to give workers basic rights let alone ownership of production and profits, there's no calls to conviscate private property, the gap between rich and poorer gets wider by the year with politicians on both sides bought by big business and acting in their interests instead of interests in the public.

Pure Capitalism has the same problems as Communism or pure Socialism IMHO and end up broken, corrupt, authoritarian systems - the Nordic model of Social Capitalism has the right balance of Sociallism, Capitalism and Democracy with some of the best living conditions in the world, more freedom, safety, affordibility etc...



posted on Jun, 9 2024 @ 07:35 AM
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originally posted by: ADVISOR
a reply to: Degradation33

Meritocracy...are you serious?

Have you heard of diversity/equity hires?

Where people are hired based on skin color or alleged race, verses merit.

There is no meritocracy any more, the vice president and president are perfect examples. It's pathetic and sad.

It's like seeing a vokswagon in a tree. You just know it didn't get their on its own.

Meritocracy in the military is extinct, it's now diversity hires...


It's not exactly Communism, it is more like Islam. What they hope is the DEI hires will get to know the people around them and be able to Islamically channel their talents. The word "islam" means submission and it may refer to the submission of spiritual barriers to the goal of Islam as stated by Muhammad in his last speech: "There is to be no excellence or superiority in Islam except through piety."

I don't believe the left has widespread agreement on whether there should be communism or whether they should have what looks like a free society but with spirituality oppressed out of being able to keep everyone from borrowing others' mental acuity.

Grunge rock was all about that. Their slacking would have had an entitled tone if they had been honest. Instead, what they were doing is trying to help their fans find disaffected, marginalized geniuses who hadn't learned spirituality, so the fans could try to psychically channel the intelligence of the geniuses.



posted on Jun, 9 2024 @ 07:50 AM
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I have heard it claimed that living in continual rapport can make children happen easily.

If so, it would explain why there seems to be growing neurodivergence and people who seem to be mixed up about who they are. Their parents hadn't chosen a spouse wisely but were focused on getting test answers or something. It may not simply be growing acceptance leading to visibility.

Perhaps it would explain Mohammed Ali Atta. He was completely convinced he had the right to kill thousands but seemingly had a hard time learning anything but how to keep the plane steady. Pure, distilled entitlement. "I need, therefore, I form rapport" said his father and his mother. "I need," he said. What do we give him? His people said.

Perhaps it explains the whole terrorism mentality. They are blessed with more children than they know how to feed and don't know how to make it stop without giving up the rapport which enables them to live in peace and know how to do things. The children may be the result of poor choices and are neglected but their philosophy doesn't let them discriminate, so they decided to pay some of them with a ticket to heaven. They're not unwanted, they're the luckiest ones.



posted on Jun, 9 2024 @ 07:56 AM
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The prophet Muhammad stated that he did not invent Islam but merely reformed a religion given to humanity by God thousands of years previously.

It is simply living through the rapport of sin.

Many people from ostensibly Christian or secularist lands could very easily have deeply Islamic epigenetics.

Many of the people of Europe for example may have arrived during the Umayyadi invasion of Gaul and stayed on. Hadn't they found that Vikings have Middle Eastern and North African roots? Not all Norse people were Vikings.

What is actually happening is the poor are taking over the secularization of society and turning it Islamic because if the intelligent give up healthy spirituality, then they can be taken advantage of.



posted on Jun, 9 2024 @ 08:29 AM
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That said, if they've really killed 35,000 in Gaza, then it is massively excessive and they should be a lot more careful, or at the barest minimum, they should try to prove whether Hamas is using their own people for human shields for their deadly attacks on Israel.



posted on Jun, 9 2024 @ 09:06 AM
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China & Globalists at War with America – Karen Kingston

Links to a 1 hour interview with Greg Hunter. Follows the covid lipid nano particle production, all goes back to China. China blocked all investigation into the source of Sars-cov-2. Karen goes into some of the culture of the CCP, they know everyone is corruptible so do not believe in democracy. Has millions on the payroll.



posted on Jun, 9 2024 @ 10:08 AM
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originally posted by: Degradation33
a reply to: ADVISOR

I feel It will always be a oligarchal meritocracy. People like money and having more than others too much. Capitalism loves social casting.

And I don't mean to nitpick this, but tell me a Trump reelection isn't also about a born-again compulsory evangelical America. Please, just focus on spending and the border.


The 80s America is forever gone.
The America of yesteryear is gone also.

That doesn't mean it's forgotten.

I don't care for this world, it's not my home.
Jesus Christ is King, and Heaven is where we belong.

Is it where we will end up?

Godless commies don't care, but they should.


1987 kinda sucked. All the greedy investment in the emerging Japanese markets backfired when their tech bubble collapsed. And then everyone turned on Bush a few years later because he dared raising taxes from 28% to 31%... and then Clinton got the credit for the recovery.

Also a war on drugs, an evil empire, and an officially ignored pandemic. But if you like secret budgets, and the advent of the 900 dollar stapler, the 80s rocked!

But the REAL question I want to ask is...

What does Jesus have to do with America for the non-christian? Is there something about the trinity in the constitution they missed? Something about a specific mandated version of morality?

What if you're from the school of Belinda Carlisle and you want to make heaven a place on earth?
What if, regardless of its revolutionary origin, the appeal to heaven flag that Judge Alito is so fond of makes you uncomfortable?
Like it makes you fear that the reinvigorated zealots are going to revoke or vote to block your privilege in the name of an America-reclaiming spiteful revenge - with 40% consensus support...

So keep ch to unpack here. First, you FEEL like it will ALWAYS be an oligarchical meritocracy. Are you trying to say they only the top people in capitalist power are the winners? I can understand that it has become more that way in recent decades in sone ways, but in other ways no, in other ways there has been a huge surge of socialistic programs, which the powers that be in politics convince are needed to help those who fall through the cracks. Then in comes Cloward and Piven, used by the likes of former prez Obama, and that’s straight out of the communist playbook. He grew up under the influence of his communist mom and grandparents. See Jerome Corsi’s book, “Obamanation” for the background of this, while Obama ushered in communism right through the front door of the White House. Too much there to go into detail now. Any by the way, CPUSA has been very vocal in their support of the communist Prez.
Cloward and Piven strategy was also a part of the Occuoy Wall Street movement as they took up their bullhorns and infested Zucotti Park with demands for various forms of DEMOCRACY and the elimination of CAPITALISM!
Looking back further, there is American Fascism from Presidents Wilson and FDR, both of the Democrat Party. Look to Jonah Goldberg’s book, “Liberal Fascism” to explain more of that. Fascism is the right wing arm of socialism.
Then, see Professor Antony Sutton on left-right Hegelianism, which he explains was imported into the US through Yale University. Read his books on The Order, and Wall astreet and the Bolshevik Revolution. I k ow you can handle it, because your writing is very intellectual.
More to come on your post later.



posted on Jun, 9 2024 @ 10:38 AM
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a reply to: Ohanka

The gov is not kowtowing to business. They are most all owned by an international cabal like the one that has captured the USA. The Books were the pure here is what we want the people to believe and the reality was a tolitarian state ran by a few who had iron fisted control over humanity was the plan.

The commie book "Rules for Radicals" would be a good modern primer on how to takeover a capitalist society.


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posted on Jun, 9 2024 @ 10:50 AM
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Whatever people want to call what America is turning into, the scum pulling the strings are using all the famously diabolical commie/fascist/Marxist/Stalinist playbooks to get there.

Just one example:




posted on Jun, 9 2024 @ 11:01 AM
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a reply to: Justoneman

Mass migration is a capitalist policy intended to devalue domestic labour. American workers demand better pay & benefits and organise to try to achieve these, migrants serve as a destitute de-facto slave caste to counter that.

Hardly something that benefits the working class.
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posted on Jun, 9 2024 @ 11:02 AM
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a reply to: Justoneman

Rules for Radicals is about community organising and Sault Alinsky was not a communist. Nor is this international cabal.



posted on Jun, 9 2024 @ 11:13 AM
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originally posted by: kwaka
China & Globalists at War with America – Karen Kingston

Links to a 1 hour interview with Greg Hunter. Follows the covid lipid nano particle production, all goes back to China. China blocked all investigation into the source of Sars-cov-2. Karen goes into some of the culture of the CCP, they know everyone is corruptible so do not believe in democracy. Has millions on the payroll.

Thank you for this!!!! Reading time for me!



posted on Jun, 9 2024 @ 11:50 AM
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originally posted by: Ohanka
a reply to: Justoneman

Rules for Radicals is about community organising and Sault Alinsky was not a communist. Nor is this international cabal.


Well, you got another think coming as mom would say.

Nope, it is the playbook.



posted on Jun, 9 2024 @ 12:07 PM
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a reply to: Justoneman

The advice in it is pretty solid for community organising and working within the US system to achieve political goals.

One can use the ideas & advice in it without being a communist or socialist or whatever.

Maybe Republicans should try it? Some good old grass roots organising instead of raging against the RINOs.



posted on Jun, 9 2024 @ 01:35 PM
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originally posted by: Ohanka
a reply to: Justoneman

The advice in it is pretty solid for community organising and working within the US system to achieve political goals.

One can use the ideas & advice in it without being a communist or socialist or whatever.

Maybe Republicans should try it? Some good old grass roots organising instead of raging against the RINOs.

Some globalists have indeed used it, and for many communist goals.
B O was notorious for it.



posted on Jun, 9 2024 @ 04:34 PM
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a reply to: EyeoftheHurricane

The goals of communists are clearly defined in the source material. Practically all Communist works (Marx, Engels, Lenin, etc.) are freely available online if you'd like to read for yourself. The world they envisage & advocate for doesn't resemble the one we live in today even remotely, and no major steps have been made to achieve it since the USSR fell.

Barack Obama (I assume that is B O?) was a "Progressive" Neoliberal. Not any flavour of Socialist or Communist. Like the overwhelming majority of the Democratic Party.



posted on Jun, 9 2024 @ 07:24 PM
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a reply to: lilzazz

I'm preparing for a civil war, buying guns and ammo with every bit of disposable income I have.


Wise move. Mbridge could go live as soon as this Wednesday



posted on Jun, 10 2024 @ 12:14 AM
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originally posted by: Ohanka
a reply to: EyeoftheHurricane

The goals of communists are clearly defined in the source material. Practically all Communist works (Marx, Engels, Lenin, etc.) are freely available online if you'd like to read for yourself. The world they envisage & advocate for doesn't resemble the one we live in today even remotely, and no major steps have been made to achieve it since the USSR fell.

Barack Obama (I assume that is B O?) was a "Progressive" Neoliberal. Not any flavour of Socialist or Communist. Like the overwhelming majority of the Democratic Party.

It’s ok Ohanka, I read the communist Manifesto many years ago. You are like so many others here trying tell people they don’t know what communism is.
Progressivism is somewhat communism lite, but make no mistake the end goal is communism. Marx and Lenin both said communism is the end goal of socialism. The Communist Manifesto is very clear on the desire to eliminate the nuclear “bourgeois” family. It is clear on the desire to end private property rights and capitalism. Communism is the totalitarian control of society by the supreme State. Antony Sutton wrote about about how John Dewey believed that children belong to the State and exist as cogs in the wheel of society, not as individuals with sovereign rights. As you surely know, Dewey was the proponent of what is the modern day pedagogical education system, and incidentally a signer of the Humanist Manifesto.
As for the former pres, he grew up with the influence of his communist grandparents, his mom who dated communist men for the purpose of furthering the communist plan in America, and also grew up around his mentor Frank Marshall Davis, also a card carrying communist. As I said, much of the communist background of the former pres was outlined in Jerome Corsi’s “Obamanation.” But make no mistake, the Deep State has no problem employing a community organizer with communist leanings to further their One World Totalitarian order. Sutton wrote that the NWO is neither right nor left, but a synthesis of opposing forces in “managed conflict”
www.scribd.com...
You are also welcome to read some “source material.”



posted on Jun, 10 2024 @ 12:24 AM
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originally posted by: Coelacanth55
part of the problem is the media. instead of being the peoples' advocate it has become the mouthpiece of the left.
they're barely trying to pretend to be fair anymore. open political advocacy.
I'm old enough to remember the cold war. Tass and Pravda were USSR propaganda outlets, taking their talking points from Moscow. our media is the same, except they're doing it voluntarily.

I remember that too, and how we thought we were so much better than Soviet propaganda.



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