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a reply to: ADVISOR
Curious about your location and the individuals involved, because I suspect that your case may be the exception not the standard.
What's your input on the strangled economic growth we see?
As KGB agent in the United States: 'I was 100% convinced that communism was the right thing'
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originally posted by: bastion
The US is a neo-liberal, capitalist society bordering on pure corporatocracy (via lobbying). There's nothing remotely communist or socialist about it, the US has the worst workers rights of any developed nation and worse than most third world countries for paId paternity leave.
It's just a dogwhistle phrase used by people who don't know what it means, same way extremists on the US left try and label all right wingers as Nazis.
The boiling frog is a parable that illustrates an important lesson on how people, events, and a whole society can, by changing slowly over time, transform into something unrecognizable and previously inconceivable. The fable goes like this: if you put a frog directly into boiling water, it will jump right out of the pot…but if you put a frog in tepid water and turn up the heat slowly, it will stay in the water until it cooks to death.
We are those Frogs:
How is communism different from socialism? | Britannica
Exactly how communism differs from socialism has long been a matter of debate. Karl Marx used the terms interchangeably For many, however, the difference can be seen in the two phases of communism as outlined by Marx. The first is a transitional system in which the working class controls the government and economy yet still pays people ...
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What's the Difference Between Socialism and Communism?
"'The Communist Manifesto,' published by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels in 1848, became the foundation of both socialism and communism," says Markowitz, but there are clearly differences between authoritarian communist regimes like the Soviet Union and China, and far more democratic forms of socialism practiced in countries like Sweden, Canada ...
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Communism | Definition, History, Varieties, & Facts | Britannica
communism, political and economic doctrine that aims to replace private property and a profit-based economy with public ownership and communal control of at least the major means of production (e.g., mines, mills, and factories) and the natural resources of a society. Communism is thus a form of socialism—a higher and more advanced form ...
How can you tell some one is a Communist? Well, it’s someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how can you tell some one is anti-Communist?
It’s someone who understands Marx and Lenin.
originally posted by: Ohanka
a reply to: Justoneman
I've read Marx (and Lenin) and nowhere in their work do they say to establish a system of government where the state kowtows to private enterprise, systematically destroys class cohesion and tramples on labour rights. That is quite literally the exact opposite of Socialism or Communism or whatever.
Kinda like saying you're a Christian but not really into the Jesus stuff, but really think that Satan guy has some great ideas. The bible is full of praise of Satan after all.
Just nonsensical.
Pure Socialism: The Government’s Barn
Under pure socialism, your cows are taken by the government and placed in a barn with everyone else’s. While they promise to provide you with as much milk as you need, you’ll be responsible for the collective care of all the cows.
Bureaucratic Socialism: Egg and Milk Regulations
In the world of bureaucratic socialism, your cows are also seized by the government and housed with others. Interestingly, they are looked after by ex-chicken farmers, and you must attend to the chickens the government took from those farmers. The government then provides you with milk and eggs based on strict regulations.
Fascism: Government Takes Control
In a fascist system, the government seizes your two cows, hires you to take care of them, and sells you the milk, profiting from your labor.
Pure Communism: Shared Responsibility
In the realm of pure communism, your two cows are a collective effort. Your neighbors collaborate with you to take care of them, and the milk is shared equally among all.
Russian Communism: Government Takes It All
In Russian communism, you still have to care for your cows, but the government takes all the milk, leaving you with no benefit from your hard work.
Dictatorship: A Grim End
In a dictatorship, your cows are confiscated by the government, and you meet an unfortunate end as they take both your cows and your life.
Militarism: Forced Service
Militarism leads to the government taking your cows and drafting you into service, leaving you with no cows or freedom.
Pure Democracy: Neighbors Decide
In a pure democracy, your neighbors have the power to decide who among them gets the milk from your two cows.
Representative Democracy: Delegated Decisions
In a representative democracy, your neighbors choose a representative to make the decision about who gets the milk from your cows.
American Democracy: The Cowgate Scandal
American democracy promises two cows in exchange for your vote. After the election, a scandal unfolds as the president is impeached for cow-related misconduct, and the cows are set free.
democrats are socialists get over it and stop being in denial
The history of the socialist movement in the United States spans a variety of tendencies, including anarchists, communists, democratic socialists, social democrats, Marxists, Marxist–Leninists, Trotskyists and utopian socialists. It began with utopian communities in the early 19th century such as the Shakers, the activist visionary Josiah Warren and intentional communities inspired by Charles Fourier. Labor activists, usually Jewish, German, or Finnish immigrants, founded the Socialist Labor Party of America in 1877. The Socialist Party of America was established in 1901. By that time, anarchism also rose to prominence around the country. Socialists of different tendencies were involved in early American labor organizations and struggles. These reached a high point in the Haymarket massacre in Chicago, which founded the International Workers' Day as the main labour holiday around the world, Labor Day and making the eight-hour day a worldwide objective by workers organizations and socialist parties worldwide.[1]
Under Socialist Party of America presidential candidate Eugene V. Debs, socialist opposition to World War I was widespread, leading to the governmental repression collectively known as the First Red Scare. The Socialist Party declined in the 1920s, but the party nonetheless often ran Norman Thomas for president. In the 1930s, the Communist Party USA took importance in labor and racial struggles while it suffered a split which converged in the Trotskyist Socialist Workers Party. In the 1950s, socialism was affected by McCarthyism and in the 1960s it was revived by the general radicalization brought by the New Left and other social struggles and revolts.