Infowars fighting attempted shutdown

originally posted by: UKTruth
Quite simply that judgment was unconstitutional.

Except the Jury decided the amount. Can a decision by a jury in a civil action ever be "unconstitutional"?

This was not a fine for a crime. Are you familiar with US courts, the difference between civil and criminal and how a jury can even negate a law if it chooses? The jury could have made it a trillion if it chose to. It's the last check and balance in the system. Usually, huge amounts like that end up being reduced by the appellate process.

a reply to: Blaine91555

The basic premise it to right a wrong or repair something damaged.

In what scenario would an FBI agent be able to be wronged without injury to the tune of 90 million dollars?


At some point common sense needs to enter the chat...

a reply to: JinMI

I'm not saying the amount is not too high, but then part of it is to punish Jones and let others know how wrong-minded he was. I tend to agree it should have been lower. I don't see anything wrong done by the court. In fact, Jones and his attorneys probably should have been spanked with contempt charges. Jones made his own bed.

a reply to: Blaine91555

Two directed verdicts in two jurisdictions.

Why would they also need contempt charges on top of a billion dollars in damages.

How dare he be wrong minded and use wrong speech!!! Now to punish him, we need to shut him up, permanently if possible.


None of this is in alignment with free speech nor the spirit and stands as a gross destruction of rights to make the point.

a reply to: kwaka

Jones is controlled opposition. Releasing some true information but also in a way that makes it easy to dispute or question. Just enough to keep the conspiracy theorists semi contented but also to have them put in a bad light by his demeanor.
His getting sued over Sandy Hook. That discredited the deniers so he did them a tremendous disservice even if their questions and observations debunking the official narrative were spot on. Same for the election result lawsuits. They debunked the stolen election claims in court but only be ignoring them, not proving them untrue. And same deal for the Pizzagate claims. They debunked them by ridiculing them, they never factually proved they were untrue. And now the Covid vaxx claims have been proven true while they were decrying and ridiculing the conspiracy theorists.
Always rememeber that the most outlandish conspiracy theories, the ones that sound completely whacko are made up by those trying to discredit the real theories that damn well seem to be true.

originally posted by: Blaine91555
a reply to: JinMI

I'm not saying the amount is not too high, but then part of it is to punish Jones and let others know how wrong-minded he was. I tend to agree it should have been lower. I don't see anything wrong done by the court. In fact, Jones and his attorneys probably should have been spanked with contempt charges. Jones made his own bed.

You don't see anything wrong with a $1bn judgement?

originally posted by: Blaine91555

originally posted by: UKTruth
Quite simply that judgment was unconstitutional.

Except the Jury decided the amount. Can a decision by a jury in a civil action ever be "unconstitutional"?

This was not a fine for a crime. Are you familiar with US courts, the difference between civil and criminal and how a jury can even negate a law if it chooses? The jury could have made it a trillion if it chose to. It's the last check and balance in the system. Usually, huge amounts like that end up being reduced by the appellate process.

Yes, it can.
I posted why earlier on.

The prohibition against cruel and unusual punishment applies to criminal sentencing, as well as to the conditions of a jail or prison. Additionally, the Eighth Amendment prohibition against excessive fines can apply to both criminal fines as well as civil fines or civil forfeiture where property is seized by the government.

Both criminal and civil fines are covered by the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

It has been reported today that Jones has filed a request to convert the bankruptcy proceedings into an order to immediately liquidate his assets, which means selling all his media assets.
No doubt he will pop up in a new guise, but if the reports are true it is the end of the Inforwars brand unless whoever buys it carries it on.
That I guess will depend on who buys it.

a reply to: JinMI

If you watched the trial, you should understand why I said he deserved a contempt charge also. It's self-explanatory. I mean how foolish does a person have to be to insult the judge's intelligence multiple times?

a reply to: Blaine91555

I watched the damages trial.

The verdict was already adjudicated. So what, 1.5 billion plus a few thousand?

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Blaine91555
a reply to: JinMI

I'm not saying the amount is not too high, but then part of it is to punish Jones and let others know how wrong-minded he was. I tend to agree it should have been lower. I don't see anything wrong done by the court. In fact, Jones and his attorneys probably should have been spanked with contempt charges. Jones made his own bed.

You don't see anything wrong with a $1bn judgement?

Closet communists and supporters of tyranny never see anything wrong with excessive punishments like this one against Jones, because Jones is a voice against these kinds of ignorant and foolish peoples who support tyranny in it's many forms.

As you know, Jones publishes 100's, even thousands of articles and videos condemning oppressive governments and corruption of all kinds, especially MSM gaslighting and intelligence community programs that create psyops against it's own citizens that today, are only growing in size, scope, and malicious intent, to silence any opposing voice against it's goals.

One of these brainwashing programs has been very successful to slowly normalize and acclimate citizens to our current state of existence where about half of the populations fully believes their government is only trying to help us.

So the average numbskull will support almost anything that the tyrants with control of main stream news tell them is someone they must destroy and be baited into supporting their destruction using false and misleading reasons they deserve to be ruined.

Alex Jones must be destroyed because he was "said" to have insulted victims and the families of past tragedies. So it's okay for him to be denied all rights and benefits guaranteed in the constitution and bill of rights, or any due process.

This is what has happened as long as we have irresponsible and stupid citizens supporting this, as if they are part of the "Good guy's" team, which the psyop and MSM have nudged their thinking into believing, because they weren't smart enough to figure out they are being played, or they don't care since they are so morally compromised already, that it doesn't matter anymore.


Sad to see isn't it...

To put Jones $1000million judgment in context... including a guy who got $95m when not even mentioned.

Robert DuBoise was sent to prison for 37 years for rape and murder - wrongly.
He recently got out after DNA evidence finally exonerated him.
He sued and got awarded $14m
37 years locked up.
No kids
No grandkids
No freedom
Life gone.

$14m

Now tell me Jones upsetting Sandy Hook parents with on air speculation of false flags and crisis actors deserved $1000million.

Justice is certainly not blind in America - which means it's a banana republic.
Unfortunately, there are too many who cheer on injustice if it happens to fall on their side of a moral or ideological argument.

a reply to: UKTruth

In the case of Robert DuBoise it is the government that had caused the damages.

In the case of Alex Jones it is a conservative activist that had caused the damages.

One must alway be dealt with more harshly then the other. Because one has the ability to do far more damage to society then the other and these judgments act as a deterrent.

originally posted by: Dandandat3
a reply to: UKTruth

In the case of Robert DuBoise it is the government that had caused the damages.

In the case of Alex Jones it is a conservative activist that had caused the damages.

One must alway be dealt with more harshly then the other. Because one has the ability to do far more damage to society then the other and these judgments act as a deterrent.

I like the irony.
It's not lost on me.

a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

I agree with this assessment.

ALEX JONES [2 of 4] Monday 6/10/24 • STEVE BANNON - News, Reports & Analysis • Infowars

Steve Bannon is preparing for prison on a misdemeanor. Has some appeals going, but not expecting much with the political persecutions going on at this time. He calls out a few people in the DOJ and FBI that are getting ready to run overseas if Trump does get elected.

At 40 min in the video, one of the lawyers involved with the Alex case talks about the situation. It is only 5% of the families involved in Sandy Hook behind the claim. The other 95% had an option to join, but do not want anything to do with it. This does raise a significant question of just what kind of harm is going on exactly? Looks like a bad case of TDS with so few of the families involved with it.

The dirt bags in government don't even care a teeny tiny bit at all for the Sandy Hook victims. What they care about is a big name in news going against their agendas and narratives so ferociously in Alex Jones. They care about all the myriad of things he is shining a big spot light on. All their money laundering being exposed, child trafficking, just think of any rotten thing and the dirt bags in our current government and around the world, and MSM are shielding it, doing it, and hiding it.

So they socially engineer a tragedy like Sandy Hook because AJ made some comments they can doctor up a little bit to destroy him for what they really don't like him talking about.

Anyone with a decent brain can see and know what this is just by taking a good look at the kinds of people who went after Jones. People with histories of dirt behind themselves. The current people who are well connected and very dirty. And how those same people attempted to recruit all the other SH families to their smear campaign but only latched onto 5% of them.

a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

Alex Jones has Always been for American FREE SPEECH . His Distractors want to Silence That for Everyone ! All you Anti Alex Jones Haters here on ATS have Proven Time and Time again that You Personally Hate FREE SPEECH Too !

Rachel Maddow lies and offends me on about a daily basis...shut her down!

The View lies and offends me on a daily basis...shut all of them down!

MSNBS lies and offends me on the daily basis...shut them down!

Fine them all a billion dollars and... shut them down!

Hell, Fox News lies and offends me on a daily basis...shut them down too!

In fact, every MSM media outlet in this entire country lies and offends me...shut them ALL down!

Fine them all a billion dollars and...shut them down!

My neighbor lies habitually and offends me...shut him down too! Oh, and he's got some nice stuff I'd like for my own, so take it from him and give it to me! Shut that MF'er down!

As a matter of fact, I don't think anyone should be allowed to say anything at all...shut 'em all down.

Fine them, jail them, take all their stuff...AND SHUT THEM DOWN!

They're ALL a THREAT TO DEMOCRACY!

What I don't understand is the logic behind taking away his income....how can he pay 1.5 billion in fines with no money?