SCOTUS should NOT Make Former Presidents Immune to Prosecution for Crimes Committed in Office.

Friday, May 31, 2024

In April, the Supreme Court of the United States (SCOTUS) heard arguments for, and counter-arguments against, FORMER U.S. Presidents being arrested and charged for crimes they allegedly committed, while they were U.S. President.

A). Any day now, the Supreme Court could issue its decision in former President Donald Trump’s case, seeking immunity from criminal prosecution.

While the most direct impact of the decision will be on how free presidents may feel to skirt or break criminal laws, the decision could also indirectly affect one of the other powers granted to U.S. presidents: the pardon power.

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B). A majority of the justices did not appear to embrace the claim of absolute immunity that would stop special counsel Jack Smith’s prosecution of Trump on charges he conspired to overturn his 2020 election loss to Democrat Joe Biden. But in arguments lasting more than 2 1/2 hours in the court’s first consideration of criminal charges against a former president, several conservative justices indicated they could limit when former presidents might be prosecuted, suggesting that the case might have to be sent back to lower courts before any trial could begin.

Justice Samuel Alito said that “whatever we decide is going to apply to all future presidents.”

Source for A: www.politico.com... -and- Source for B: apnews.com...

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CERTAIN Crimes: Because the current President, JOE BIDEN, has enabled so much misery by allowing migrants to enter the U.S.A. without being vetted, he should be tried for the deaths, injuries, rapes, and other violence caused by the criminals he opened our borders to.

One of many deaths: www.foxnews.com...

CERTAIN Crimes: In addition, as President, JOE BIDEN kept stolen National Security documents in his unsecure basement and garage at his Delaware home. And, it possible he generated some of the mysterious millions of dollars sent to Biden family "shell companies", by selling information in those documents to individuals in other countries.

Major Violations Like These, ALWAYS bring PRISON & FINE: nypost.com...

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IF the U.S. Supreme Court rules that former Presidents Can NOT be charged with committing crimes while they were President, current President JOE BIDEN will have LITERALLY gotten away with enabling MURDER, and likely violations of the U.S. ESPIONAGE Act, as well!

Other than sending a letter via Snail Mail, the Supreme Court doesn't have a method for receiving public opinions. But, you can e-mail/call your member of Congress to let your feelings be known. They contact the Supreme Court from time-to-time when enough citizens express strong opinions on a given subject.

IMO, it is CRITICAL that former Presidents NOT BE IMMUNE from prosecution, for (alleged) criminal actions committed while President.

-WeMustCare

a reply to: WeMustCare

Remarkably, I agree with your final conclusion.

a reply to: Boomer1947

What's remarkable about you having good common sense?

a reply to: WeMustCare

IMO, it is CRITICAL that former Presidents NOT BE IMMUNE from prosecution, for (alleged) criminal actions committed while President.

Agreed. Also, presidents and ALL politicians should not be immune from prosecution because they're knidly, dottering old men.
We have the laws, but it doesn't seem the 'system' has the cajones to enforce them.

originally posted by: nugget1
a reply to: WeMustCare

IMO, it is CRITICAL that former Presidents NOT BE IMMUNE from prosecution, for (alleged) criminal actions committed while President.

Agreed. Also, presidents and ALL politicians should not be immune from prosecution because they're knidly, dottering old men.
We have the laws, but it doesn't seem the 'system' has the cajones to enforce them.

"The System" brings old people to justice, unless someone prevents it.

For example, this lady is going to trial at 102 years old: www.usatoday.com...

originally posted by: WeMustCare

originally posted by: nugget1
a reply to: WeMustCare

IMO, it is CRITICAL that former Presidents NOT BE IMMUNE from prosecution, for (alleged) criminal actions committed while President.

Agreed. Also, presidents and ALL politicians should not be immune from prosecution because they're knidly, dottering old men.
We have the laws, but it doesn't seem the 'system' has the cajones to enforce them.

"The System" brings old people to justice, unless someone prevents it.

For example, this lady is going to trial at 102 years old: www.usatoday.com...

Too bad she's not a career politician-she'd be immune from prosecution.

To be fair, I always hang my flag upside down when my country is in crisis.

And I despise Trump.

And moreso what’s been done to him.

GL to the Justices. Talk about last bastions.

a reply to: WeMustCare

I was going to argue against that but you have several good points there.

I see where it could be necessary to prosecute a president for certain crimes.

Also, Biden had some of those documents before he was even vice president. But he is not prosecuted yet? Why?

a reply to: Boomer1947

Even a broken clock is right twice a day...

originally posted by: nugget1

originally posted by: WeMustCare

originally posted by: nugget1
a reply to: WeMustCare

IMO, it is CRITICAL that former Presidents NOT BE IMMUNE from prosecution, for (alleged) criminal actions committed while President.

Agreed. Also, presidents and ALL politicians should not be immune from prosecution because they're knidly, dottering old men.
We have the laws, but it doesn't seem the 'system' has the cajones to enforce them.

"The System" brings old people to justice, unless someone prevents it.

For example, this lady is going to trial at 102 years old: www.usatoday.com...

Too bad she's not a career politician-she'd be immune from prosecution.

What's SICK is that Bob Menendez has been indicted/arrested 3 times...with 2 of the arrests happening within the past year. Yet he is still an ACTIVE U.S. Senator! Democrats in leadership positions are immoral and unethical, for not demanding Menendez to step down...like Republicans did to Rep. George Santos after he was arrested for small stuff, compared to what Menendez was arrested for...twice.

originally posted by: SteamyAmerican
To be fair, I always hang my flag upside down when my country is in crisis.

And I despise Trump.

And moreso what’s been done to him.

GL to the Justices. Talk about last bastions.

🚨Democrats want to punish Supreme Court Justice Samuel ALITO for hanging his flag upside down, for the same reason you do.

But the head of the U.S. Supreme Court, Justice John Roberts, told Democrats to go find and use a good psychiatrist.

Roberts Turns Away Democrat Congressmen: thehill.com...

originally posted by: WeMustCare

originally posted by: nugget1

originally posted by: WeMustCare

originally posted by: nugget1
a reply to: WeMustCare

IMO, it is CRITICAL that former Presidents NOT BE IMMUNE from prosecution, for (alleged) criminal actions committed while President.

Agreed. Also, presidents and ALL politicians should not be immune from prosecution because they're knidly, dottering old men.
We have the laws, but it doesn't seem the 'system' has the cajones to enforce them.

"The System" brings old people to justice, unless someone prevents it.

For example, this lady is going to trial at 102 years old: www.usatoday.com...

Too bad she's not a career politician-she'd be immune from prosecution.

What's SICK is that Bob Menendez has been indicted/arrested 3 times...with 2 of the arrests happening within the past year. Yet he is still an ACTIVE U.S. Senator! Democrats in leadership positions are immoral and unethical, for not demanding Menendez to step down...like Republicans did to Rep. George Santos after he was arrested for small stuff, compared to what Menendez was arrested for...twice.

So you are saying Bob Menendez has been arrested multiple times with 2 of them happening in the past year. Can you list those?

I am sure you know that being indicted and being arrested are not the same thing. There isn't a single person anywhere that would say he hasn't been indited multiple times but what you said is "has been indicted/arrested 3 times...with 2 of the arrests happening within the past year."

a reply to: opethPA

www.justice.gov...

Look into him before you blindly protect him.

SPAM

What part of NO MAN IS ABOVE THE LAW do people not understand?

NO MAN!

a reply to: WeMustCare

No, just no. Im saying this once: the SCOTUS...isn't making this decision lightly....or about "45". They MUST include the results potential to all living ex presidents. Bush, Carter, Obama, Clinton.

Trump started the fire but he was Joe Average Citizen the day before he was elected, and when he got kicked to the curb the day after. Private Citizen, thank you Mr. T. for your 4 -but now Get the F out again.

Presidents pee the exact same way as you n me....'cept maybe Barry O...who may or may not pee both ways.

Nope. Our Constitution freed us from the King. And that King can stand trial.

"Off with his head!"

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: opethPA

www.justice.gov...

Look into him before you blindly protect him.

You really think I would post without making sure I knew what I was saying ? Lol okay.
I also don't need to defend anyone when the facts tell the story just fine.

Still, thanks for supporting my point because your
link doesn't talk about his being arrested but it does
talk about his being indicted.

The Indictment alleges that ...

www.justice.gov...

So, I'll ask you the same question those arrests, the two this year, what were they?


Indictment
An indictment is a formal statement of criminal charges. Indictments are issued, or "handed up," by grand juries

Arrest
To arrest someone is to place him under direct control and custody, depriving him of liberty.

legalbeagle.com...

a reply to: opethPA

I don't know nor care how many times he was indicted or arrested. Only that he appears to be quite scummy, and the facts they have gathered so far point to him being a sleaze ball. Not someone anyone should be protecting, But you do you.

Then we should be charging and convicting past presidents Posthumously. 😃

Look back at all of them!!

originally posted by: Disgusted123
What part of NO MAN IS ABOVE THE LAW do people not understand?

NO MAN!

That statement would be laughable if it wasn't so sad. there is plenty of evidence that Biden illegally enriched himself and his entire family, yet he's a kind, non compos mentis doddering old fool that can't and won't be held accountable because he's above the law.

In a two party system where 'no one is above the law' this issue would already be before the SCOTUS.