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originally posted by: rdambroso
a reply to: DBCowboy
I agree wholeheartedly. This is really NEXT LEVEL totalitarian crap. And what is truly frightening is if they can do this to TRUMP, they can do it to ANYONE they don't like for ANY REASON they see fit.
"Trumped up charges" refer to accusations or legal charges that are fabricated, exaggerated, or distorted to serve a particular agenda or to wrongfully incriminate someone. These charges are typically not based on genuine evidence or valid legal grounds but are created to falsely accuse an individual for political, personal, or other ulterior motives. The term suggests deceit and manipulation to achieve an unjust outcome.
originally posted by: BeyondKnowledge3
a reply to: Threadbarer
You don't see that noone has been convicted in this way ever before? They used a nonexistent crime as evidence to charge another crime.
A coverup of a crime that hasn't even been charged is ridiculous.
To continue with your murder comparison, can you convict a person of lying about not committing a murder if they have not committed that murder and have not even been charged with murder?
originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: BeyondKnowledge3
Trump was accused of falsifying business records. The prosecution presented enough evidence that convinced a jury that business records were not only falsified at the direction of Trump but that the intent behind it was to cover up other crimes.
originally posted by: TzarChasm
originally posted by: BeyondKnowledge3
a reply to: Threadbarer
You don't see that noone has been convicted in this way ever before? They used a nonexistent crime as evidence to charge another crime.
A coverup of a crime that hasn't even been charged is ridiculous.
To continue with your murder comparison, can you convict a person of lying about not committing a murder if they have not committed that murder and have not even been charged with murder?
Are you saying Cohen lied and Trump really had no idea his money was being used to cover up a scandal prior to his campaign, which is illegal in New York? Because that's the issue. If Cohen lied, prove it. Appellate court exists for a reason.
But if he didn't....
originally posted by: Euronymous2625
He did crimes.
He got convicted.
Due process.
You're in a cult.
originally posted by: Lumenari
a reply to: Euronymous2625
The truth is you probably don't know how to vote, but you have an opinion on ATS.
That's cool.
You are still on the wrong side of history and if you did know how to vote, you are going to vote for your own demise because your owners cannot let you vote after they have taken control over everything.
Because after all, they don't just want you out there voting for the next big regime change that you don't understand.
And I understand why you don't understand that.
I actually agree with it.
The sooner, the better...
You are later going to be called the "amusing eaters".
By those better than you.
originally posted by: budzprime69
originally posted by: Lumenari
a reply to: Euronymous2625
The truth is you probably don't know how to vote, but you have an opinion on ATS.
That's cool.
You are still on the wrong side of history and if you did know how to vote, you are going to vote for your own demise because your owners cannot let you vote after they have taken control over everything.
Because after all, they don't just want you out there voting for the next big regime change that you don't understand.
And I understand why you don't understand that.
I actually agree with it.
The sooner, the better...
You are later going to be called the "amusing eaters".
By those better than you.
When someone tells you that you're on the wrong side of history, you may be on the right side if history. Because the person saying that to you wants to be the one to wright history.
originally posted by: BeyondKnowledge3
originally posted by: TzarChasm
originally posted by: BeyondKnowledge3
a reply to: Threadbarer
You don't see that noone has been convicted in this way ever before? They used a nonexistent crime as evidence to charge another crime.
A coverup of a crime that hasn't even been charged is ridiculous.
To continue with your murder comparison, can you convict a person of lying about not committing a murder if they have not committed that murder and have not even been charged with murder?
Are you saying Cohen lied and Trump really had no idea his money was being used to cover up a scandal prior to his campaign, which is illegal in New York? Because that's the issue. If Cohen lied, prove it. Appellate court exists for a reason.
But if he didn't....
From what I understand, the payment of the 'hush money' was made long before Trump ever considered running for president and without his involvement. I do not understand how it is relivent to his presidential campaign.