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originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: BeyondKnowledge3
Trump was accused of falsifying business records. The prosecution presented enough evidence that convinced a jury that business records were not only falsified at the direction of Trump but that the intent behind it was to cover up other crimes.
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: rdambroso
Should Presidential candidates be immune from the consequences of their actions? If declare my candidacy and then murder someone is it political persecution if I'm tried and convicted?
explain his actions. I really want to know what he did and what documents he falsified. Every time I ask you this, you scamper off, you likely will this time again. And no, I don't want to see the court papers, I want to hear a leftie who thinks this is all on the up and up explain the crime, and then the fellony that allowed a very old (not crime) to be charged well beyond the statue of limitations.
originally posted by: rdambroso
a reply to: Boomer1947
yeah ok. I've seen a bunch of democrat criminals running around with ZERO consequences
originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: BeyondKnowledge3
Trump was accused of falsifying business records. The prosecution presented enough evidence that convinced a jury that business records were not only falsified at the direction of Trump but that the intent behind it was to cover up other crimes.
originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: theatreboy
Those weren't the instructions. If we take my murder example, this is like the jury voting unanimously that the accused was guilty of first degree murder due to being a felony murderer but not unanimous in what crime was being committed when the murder was committed.
originally posted by: budzprime69
a reply to: Threadbarer
The crimes have been layed out time and time again over the past 24hrs. If they agree or not is up to them as they are adults and can make decisions. If they choose to put blinders on for this case then so be it.
I swear it's like the world is ending If you ask some people here.
It will be appealed almost guaranteed IMO. And really this isn't all that bad, Trump just made it bad by violating a judges orders, more than a few times. He wanted the charges on him for political points and to play the vitom card. I mean $34mil is no chump change.
originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: network dude
It's been explained to you multiple times over the course of this trial. It's not my fault you don't understand. I'm done banging my head against the wall.
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: budzprime69
a reply to: Threadbarer
The crimes have been layed out time and time again over the past 24hrs. If they agree or not is up to them as they are adults and can make decisions. If they choose to put blinders on for this case then so be it.
I swear it's like the world is ending If you ask some people here.
It will be appealed almost guaranteed IMO. And really this isn't all that bad, Trump just made it bad by violating a judges orders, more than a few times. He wanted the charges on him for political points and to play the vitom card. I mean $34mil is no chump change.
Then explain them to me. I don't get it. If you don't get it also, just say that, but if you pretend to know, but act like a douche, that's not getting it done. Explain what records he falisified. Remember, "I don't know" is an answer.
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: BeyondKnowledge3
Trump was accused of falsifying business records. The prosecution presented enough evidence that convinced a jury that business records were not only falsified at the direction of Trump but that the intent behind it was to cover up other crimes.
what records did he falisify, and what was his intent? Remember, I don't want to hear what flimsy evidence says, I want to hear from you. Man up sport, pretend you got a pair.
originally posted by: Boomer1947
a reply to: rdambroso
Election interference is conventionally defined as an illegal attempt to influence the outcome of an election--with the emphasis on "illegal". That would include things like putting forth slates of fake electors, asking the Secretary of State of a swing state to "find" thousands of votes that don't exist, or whipping up a crowd to stop a Joint session of Congress convened to certify the election. In the State of New York, it also includes attempting to influence the outcome of an election by the illegal means of falsifying official records, as we have just been seen.
That's not what happened here. Bringing a criminal suspect to trial is not illegal, even if that suspect is a candidate for President. Quite the opposite, actually. Bringing a Presidential candidate to trial might very well affect the OUTCOME of an election, especially if that candidate is found guilty. In fact I hope it would--but AFFECTING the outcome of an election by legal means is not the same as INTERFERING with an election by illegal means.