Kangaroos in Manhattan? Enought to fill a court apparently.

I expect I'll get excoriated for this but I've NEVER seen such a clown show akin to Venezuela, Russia or North korea as this
Trump nonsense. How is this not blatant election interference? I hold no illusions that Trump is without his flaws and faults,
but I find this very disturbing. Our weaponized judicial system if this stands can basically put anyone in jail for any reason
they see fit. It reminds me of 1984 and 'right speak'. Horrific times in the USA.

a reply to: rdambroso

Should Presidential candidates be immune from the consequences of their actions? If declare my candidacy and then murder someone is it political persecution if I'm tried and convicted?

a reply to: Threadbarer
Funny..Hillary's bleach bit servers while SOS..Bidens collection of classified docs while VP, Forget
burisma and his daughters diary for a moment. Obmama/Holder fast and furious giving 20K automatic
weapons to Mexican Cartels? I could go on and on...this is a routing BOOKKEEPING ERROR. If you put them
on the same level, I really don't know what to say to you

a reply to: rdambroso

This is the new left.

It's violence to call a guy in a dress, "mister", but it's free speech to call for the death of all Jews.

It's free expression and peaceful protest to burn federal buildings, but it's insurrection to walk through one.

It's a 1st Amendment right to tear down statues, but a hate crime to say all lives matter.

Biden is too mentally incompetent to stand trial for stealing classified documents, but book-keeping is enough to jail a presidential candidate.

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Ironically, if his name was anything other than Donald Trump, and he had shot someone on 5th Avenue in NY, Alvin Bragg would not have pressed any charges...

a reply to: DBCowboy

I agree wholeheartedly. This is really NEXT LEVEL totalitarian crap. And what is truly frightening is if they can do this to TRUMP, they can do it to ANYONE they don't like for ANY REASON they see fit.

a reply to: Threadbarer

You don't see that noone has been convicted in this way ever before? They used a nonexistent crime as evidence to charge another crime.

A coverup of a crime that hasn't even been charged is ridiculous.

To continue with your murder comparison, can you convict a person of lying about not committing a murder if they have not committed that murder and have not even been charged with murder?

a reply to: rdambroso
and what liberals don't realize, is that they are just useful idiots to those behind all this. That will not make them immune. Once their purpose is served, they will be disposed of like everyone else.

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: rdambroso

Should Presidential candidates be immune from the consequences of their actions? If declare my candidacy and then murder someone is it political persecution if I'm tried and convicted?

explain his actions. I really want to know what he did and what documents he falsified. Every time I ask you this, you scamper off, you likely will this time again. And no, I don't want to see the court papers, I want to hear a leftie who thinks this is all on the up and up explain the crime, and then the fellony that allowed a very old (not crime) to be charged well beyond the statue of limitations.

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Over 150 people have been prosecuted by the Manhattan DA's office since Bragg was elected using this statute.

And to go back to my murder example, most states have their first degree murder statute broken down into two categories, premeditated murder and felony murder. Premeditated murder is self-explanatory. Felony murder is when a person kills someone in the commission of another crime. However, they do not need to be charged with the other crime to be found guilty of first degree murder.

originally posted by: rdambroso
a reply to: DBCowboy

I agree wholeheartedly. This is really NEXT LEVEL totalitarian crap. And what is truly frightening is if they can do this to TRUMP, they can do it to ANYONE they don't like for ANY REASON they see fit.

I think that is the plan.

a reply to: rdambroso

Election interference is conventionally defined as an illegal attempt to influence the outcome of an election--with the emphasis on "illegal". That would include things like putting forth slates of fake electors, asking the Secretary of State of a swing state to "find" thousands of votes that don't exist, or whipping up a crowd to stop a Joint session of Congress convened to certify the election. In the State of New York, it also includes attempting to influence the outcome of an election by the illegal means of falsifying official records, as we have just been seen.

That's not what happened here. Bringing a criminal suspect to trial is not illegal, even if that suspect is a candidate for President. Quite the opposite, actually. Bringing a Presidential candidate to trial might very well affect the OUTCOME of an election, especially if that candidate is found guilty. In fact I hope it would--but AFFECTING the outcome of an election by legal means is not the same as INTERFERING with an election by illegal means.

MSM and Hollywood activists will spend the next month driving home how evil Trump is and their groupies will cheer them on.

1984 should be required reading, with a comprehension test on the entire book as a requiremtn for graduating high school. Once read, it's hard not to see the direction of our future.

originally posted by: BeyondKnowledge3
a reply to: Threadbarer

You don't see that noone has been convicted in this way ever before? They used a nonexistent crime as evidence to charge another crime.

A coverup of a crime that hasn't even been charged is ridiculous.

To continue with your murder comparison, can you convict a person of lying about not committing a murder if they have not committed that murder and have not even been charged with murder?

Depends...if Trump, yes. Any D, nope.

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: BeyondKnowledge3

Over 150 people have been prosecuted by the Manhattan DA's office since Bragg was elected using this statute.

And to go back to my murder example, most states have their first degree murder statute broken down into two categories, premeditated murder and felony murder. Premeditated murder is self-explanatory. Felony murder is when a person kills someone in the commission of another crime. However, they do not need to be charged with the other crime to be found guilty of first degree murder.

How many with thin/no evidence like Trump's case? 🤣🤣

a reply to: xuenchen

Over 200 exhibits of evidence and 20 witnesses is a thin case?

a reply to: Threadbarer

But can the person be charger with saying they are innocent of murder without them being charged and found guilty of murder? That is what is happening in this case and you missed it

a reply to: BeyondKnowledge3

Trump was accused of falsifying business records. The prosecution presented enough evidence that convinced a jury that business records were not only falsified at the direction of Trump but that the intent behind it was to cover up other crimes.

a reply to: Threadbarer

The crimes have been layed out time and time again over the past 24hrs. If they agree or not is up to them as they are adults and can make decisions. If they choose to put blinders on for this case then so be it.
I swear it's like the world is ending If you ask some people here.
It will be appealed almost guaranteed IMO. And really this isn't all that bad, Trump just made it bad by violating a judges orders, more than a few times. He wanted the charges on him for political points and to play the vitom card. I mean $34mil is no chump change.