What will the sentence be for Donald J Trump - Convicted Felon

a reply to: Oldcarpy2
A one-man firing squad at one of his rallies somewhere.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: UKTruth

I hope they do.

Finally we find something we agree on, although I don't think it will be that simple.

There are several things the judge is supposed to take into account during sentencing. First, Trump will have to have an interview with a probation officer (or equivalent), who will then make a recommendation to the judge. One of the factors they will be looking for is whether the criminal takes responsibility for their actions and expresses remorse. Trump will do neither, of course. He will maintain that his actions were "perfect". Not just OK, but perfect, because his actions have always been perfect his entire life. Apparently he's never made a mistake his entire life. Kind of like Jesus, in that regard. So he will be considered a "hard case" and that will weigh against showing him any leniency. I think he almost certainly will be fined the maximum amount ($5,000 per count, as I recall) but the judge will recognize that that a $170,000 fine means nothing to Trump. Also, there are 34 separate convictions, so I don't think the judge can consider this as just one single transgression--it's a pattern of behavior. I think the judge will feel forced to impose some sanction on Trump that interferes with his freedom in some way. Maybe that would end up being home confinement with an ankle bracelet and limitations on communications, the way Michael Cohen was treated.

Personally, I would like to see him in an orange jump suit picking up trash on the side of the road for 90 days worth of community service, but that probably won't happen either.

a reply to: charlest2

Sadly, you may be right.

a reply to: Boomer1947

Oh it will be.

Election interference wouldn't be complete without jail time.

originally posted by: Annee
You do know he has a long list of white-collar questionable activity long before he got involved in politics. Right ? ? ?

You do know that rumors and gossip are NOT a conviction in a court of law and that those rumors and gossip should have NOTHING to do with what his sentence should be. RIGHT ? ? ?

a reply to: FlyersFan

Multiple cases where his companies have been found liable of fraud are rumors and gossip?

We'll see what his sentence is, but we should all hope for leniency, at least a degree of it. After all, this man represented the highest office in our land; out of respect for that office, some grace should be granted.

This, of course, as with any felony sentencing, will depend on how much remorse he shows and whether he follows the rules set forth by the court.

If he defames the judge or other people, this will be considered at the sentencing. If he shows no remorse and continues claiming he did nothing wrong, a judge will take that into account, same as another felon showing no remorse for their crimes.

Also, the judge will have to take into account court behavior and the ten violations of the gag order.

And even if he gets probation with all of that considered, he will have to abide by terms of his probation, and violating it could send him back in for re-sentencing.

His best hope is that he only ends up with a probation officer, but a short sentence, three to six months, is probably not unreasonable.

a reply to: Threadbarer

So tell me if he is such a f'n criminal where are the charges for the last 50 years? I mean, anyone with a brain knows nothing is done in NY with construction without dealing with those who do not wish to be named.

They all loved him when he donated. But he called them all out. He did it to himself but he DNGAF. Nope.

He is worth billions. Lives in a beautiful home. A beautiful family. He gives that up to prove a point and as hard headed as he is he truly has openly exposed the corruption in government. Never in modern history has a president been treated in this fashion.

Say what you want but he has the biggest balls on the planet to continue to give them all the finger.

originally posted by: matafuchs
30 Days in Jail
5 Years Monitored Probation so he has to wear an ankle bracelet
No Fine as monies were already paid.

This is what I think will happen. It is about embarrassment.

“I’m honored,” Trump said. “It’s not that it’s pleasant — it’s very bad for family; it’s very bad for friends and businesses, but I’m honored to be involved in it because somebody has to do it, and I might as well keep going and be the one.” “I’m very honored to be involved because we’re fighting for our Constitution,” he said.

“I don’t mind because I’m willing to do whatever I have to do to save our country and to save our Constitution. I don’t mind.” “This can’t be allowed to happen to other presidents; it should never be allowed to happen in the future,” he continued. “But this is far beyond me. This is bigger than Trump. This is bigger than me.”

Lock him up....

If he gets any jail time, that leaves him vulnerable. Think Arkancide. Think Epsteined.

For this reason, I hope he does not get jail time.

originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: network dude

I am amazed. Is it really necessary for a Russian to explain to an American all the intricacies of the legal system in the United States?
Do you really consider this situation acceptable for yourself personally?

I had a Russian think incorrectly about how the US Jusice system works. Not sure what you think you got right.

The system is a good system, in this case it was abused and much like everything Biden does, it's illegal, but he got what he wanted now, and when it's changed, he won't care or remember. As long as he gets his ice cream and his diaper changed.

originally posted by: Mahogani
We'll see what his sentence is, but we should all hope for leniency, at least a degree of it. After all, this man represented the highest office in our land; out of respect for that office, some grace should be granted.

Do you think Trump respected the office?

originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: Threadbarer
He is worth billions. Lives in a beautiful home. A beautiful family. He gives that up to prove a point...

Sam Bankman Fried was also worth billions, lived in a beautiful home, had a great family and donated money that everyone liked taking. Same with Jeffrey Epstein. Maybe not great family, but the rest of it with him.

If that's the low bar you're after, you've hit it.

originally posted by: Threadbarer
If he gets jail time, 6-12 months pending appeal. I think a suspended sentence is going to be more likely.

why not 4 years. He's a #ing monster! You may not be aware, but he paid his lawyer. No, really. Jail for that criminal.

originally posted by: Threadbarer
Multiple cases where his companies have been found liable of fraud are rumors and gossip?

Rumors and gossip. He wasn't accused, tried, and found guilty. Anything having to do with any of that is IRRELEVANT when sentencing for THIS case.

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: FlyersFan

And when that doesn't happen will you admit this wasn't politically motivated?

if you beleive that, you are stupider than I ver gave you credit for. I'm sure you are capable of grasping what this is about.
Sadly, you can't even be honest with you, let alone us.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: Threadbarer
If he gets jail time, 6-12 months pending appeal. I think a suspended sentence is going to be more likely.

why not 4 years. He's a #ing monster! You may not be aware, but he paid his lawyer. No, really. Jail for that criminal.

I think that's the first time anyone has accused him of paying his lawyers.

originally posted by: Mahogani

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: Threadbarer
If he gets jail time, 6-12 months pending appeal. I think a suspended sentence is going to be more likely.

why not 4 years. He's a #ing monster! You may not be aware, but he paid his lawyer. No, really. Jail for that criminal.

I think that's the first time anyone has accused him of paying his lawyers.

a reply to: KKLOCO

Me too. It would be unprecedented but I honestly do not put it past this judge. For sure probation and an ankle bracelet.

originally posted by: Mahogani

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: Threadbarer
If he gets jail time, 6-12 months pending appeal. I think a suspended sentence is going to be more likely.

why not 4 years. He's a #ing monster! You may not be aware, but he paid his lawyer. No, really. Jail for that criminal.

I think that's the first time anyone has accused him of paying his lawyers.

Hell yea, if you pay them you go to jail. Best to just shoot them in the face. At least then in jail you get some street cred.

a reply to: network dude

In Russia there is also a jury trial. They consider judicial matters only when the accused is accused of murder or another agonistic crime. Moreover, the jury is selected very strictly. They should not know anything about the crime, not have any connections, of any kind, with the participants in the process. If during the trial it is revealed that any juror has any connection with any party to the trial, then the entire panel is dissolved.
In reality, a jury trial is a street court, a kind of legalized lynching. Whatever location the jury is in, that will be the verdict. This is extremely biased. The law can be wrong. But he is the Law. If the rule of law is questioned, the state will collapse.
Don't destroy your state!