ICC Apply for Arrest Warrants for Netanyahu and Hamas leader

So how many stars do I get If a write a comment that condemns Israel right now? Is the amount of anti-israel boot-licking proportional to the number of stars?

It's hard not to notice. Apologies in advance.

a reply to: DBCowboy

They couldn't determine if the events on Oct 7th merited a war crimes response until now?

What actual difference would it make , and why didn't they send a file when Israel were levelling Gaza ?

Evidence takes time to collect a case must first be built and when the charge is as serious as War Crimes that case needs to hold water , you're just pissed Bibbi is being called out for what he is.

Chances are Bibi will likely be in an Israeli court to answer his corruption charges before he goes to the Hague.

originally posted by: Vermilion
a reply to: purplemer

Those sissies at the ICC were supposed to land in Israel today.
They didn’t board their flight. 🤡
They went on CNN instead LoL
They must mean super duper business this time to be doing those super duper serious things.

So they didn't complete their investigation before requesting the warrants.

In the prosecutor's statement about his request for warrants against Hamas, he says they went to Israel to collect evidence and see the atrocities of Hamas alleged by Israel firsthand. And in fairness, interviewing the leaders of Hamas would seem to be a pretty crucial step in such an investigation. Establishing that they ordered the atrocities would seem to be necessary, otherwise how do you know the invaders didn't just go rogue? Leaders aren't always necessarily legally culpable if one of their underlings commits a crime without their knowledge or approval. That's a very difficult thing to establish.

In the part of the statement about the warrants against Israel, he mentions no trips to Gaza to verify their claims against Israel. And now we find out he didn't go on a planned trip to Israel to speak to them either. I can't find anything about them interviewing military commanders or collecting military records like orders, audio, or transcripts to establish that they have been deliberately targeting civilians, for instance, yet requests an arrest warrant for that "crime."

Their "investigation" appears to mostly consist of watching the news.

I had always heard the ICC was a joke, now I know why.

a reply to: YourFaceAgain

Well said.👍

Those ICC morons probably take it personally that they are a joke heard round the world and have no idea that their actions are solely to blame for it. 🤡

Whoever is funding it needs a refund.
It’s embarrassing.

originally posted by: Degradation33
So how many stars do I get If a write a comment that condemns Israel right now? Is the amount of anti-israel boot-licking proportional to the number of stars?

It's hard not to notice. Apologies in advance.

Funny isn’t it. I watched them sign in out of their account the other day. They’d leave for a few and star all their accounts, then comeback and comment, rinse and repeat. I was bored. They think the more they star certain comments the more it will show approval to their narrative. Pretty pathetic really because like you said , it’s very obvious to everyone here. I’ve found humor in it though. 😂

originally posted by: Degradation33
So how many stars do I get If a write a comment that condemns Israel right now? Is the amount of anti-israel boot-licking proportional to the number of stars?

Answer .... YES. An it's disgusting.

Well better late than never. Too bad there wasn't a recommendation for Ben Gvir and Biden and Blinken and all the genocidal media propagandists.

Very strange to see so many on a Conspiracy site not being pleased that the worst wing of Scottish Rite Freemasonry may be finally getting its due.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: DBCowboy

They couldn't determine if the events on Oct 7th merited a war crimes response until now?

What actual difference would it make , and why didn't they send a file when Israel were levelling Gaza ?

Evidence takes time to collect a case must first be built and when the charge is as serious as War Crimes that case needs to hold water , you're just pissed Bibbi is being called out for what he is.

Chances are Bibi will likely be in an Israeli court to answer his corruption charges before he goes to the Hague.

You never answered my question above about Israel’s war crimes. How do you know they’ve committed war crimes and what crimes do you specifically think they’ve committed? Its crickets every time I’ve asked the people that keep crying war crimes. This should be a easy question for you. I have a fairly long list of already proven war crimes the Palestinians have committed. Why can’t y’all give one for Israel?

a reply to: KrustyKrab

You never answered my question above about Israel’s war crimes. How do you know they’ve committed war crimes and what crimes do you specifically think they’ve committed?

How do I know ? , simply by ticking boxes , there are others like forced displacement of a population , cutting off water and denying aid among the others.

Wilful killing

Torture or inhuman treatment, including biological experiments;

Wilfully causing great suffering, or serious injury to body or health;

Extensive destruction and appropriation of property, not justified by military necessity and carried out unlawfully and wantonly;
www.un.org...

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: KrustyKrab

You never answered my question above about Israel’s war crimes. How do you know they’ve committed war crimes and what crimes do you specifically think they’ve committed?

How do I know ? , simply by ticking boxes , there are others like forced displacement of a population , cutting off water and denying aid among the others.

Wilful killing

Torture or inhuman treatment, including biological experiments;

Wilfully causing great suffering, or serious injury to body or health;

Extensive destruction and appropriation of property, not justified by military necessity and carried out unlawfully and wantonly;
www.un.org...

That’s a fancy way of describing War.

Dropping leaflets and mass spamming phones trying to warn people to get out of the way of incoming fire doesn’t help the war crimes case. ICYDK

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: KrustyKrab

You never answered my question above about Israel’s war crimes. How do you know they’ve committed war crimes and what crimes do you specifically think they’ve committed?

How do I know ? , simply by ticking boxes , there are others like forced displacement of a population , cutting off water and denying aid among the others.

Wilful killing

Torture or inhuman treatment, including biological experiments;

Wilfully causing great suffering, or serious injury to body or health;

Extensive destruction and appropriation of property, not justified by military necessity and carried out unlawfully and wantonly;
www.un.org...

I see you're back to your dishonest method of only posting partial definitions because the entire definition hurts the narrative you're trying to spin.

Flashback to this thread a week ago when you were dishonestly misleading people by posting only the partial definition of genocide because posting the rest of the definition would have derailed your narrative. When challenged with the whole definition, you quit the thread. Just a coincidence, I'm sure.

Of course it's preposterous that "willful killing" by itself would constitute a war crime, since lawful warfare includes willful killing.

But it's not willful killing by itself, or any of those other charges by themselves. They are part of a broader definition. I'll bold the critical part that you dishonestly left out:

For the purpose of this Statute, ‘war crimes’ means:
Grave breaches of the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949, namely, any of the following acts against persons or property protected under the provisions of the relevant Geneva Convention:
Wilful killing
Torture or inhuman treatment, including biological experiments;
Wilfully causing great suffering, or serious injury to body or health;
Extensive destruction and appropriation of property, not justified by military necessity and carried out unlawfully and wantonly;

So willful killing in war is not a war crime. Willful killing of protected persons in war is a war crime. That's an extremely critical difference.

Some categories of civilians are protected persons. So to charge someone with a war crime based on willful killing of protected persons, you'd have to have evidence that they knowingly and deliberately bombed a protected person. The fact that a protected person was killed does not constitute a war crime by itself. You'd have to show intent.

I realize this is way too nuanced for you though.

At a minimum though, can you please stop dishonestly cutting out parts of a definition that completely change the definition?

a reply to: YourFaceAgain

I see you're back to your dishonest method of only posting partial definitions because the entire definition hurts the narrative you're trying to spin.

And you're back to your accusation tactics again , quaint ,, I posted a link and the portion I was referring to the rest is in the link I provided.

So to charge someone with a war crime based on willful killing of protected persons, you'd have to have evidence that they knowingly and deliberately bombed a protected person.

They obviously think they have the evidence to make the charge so we'll wait and see.

At a minimum though, can you please stop dishonestly cutting out parts of a definition that completely change the definition?

I'll post quotes as I please.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: KrustyKrab

You never answered my question above about Israel’s war crimes. How do you know they’ve committed war crimes and what crimes do you specifically think they’ve committed?

How do I know ? , simply by ticking boxes , there are others like forced displacement of a population , cutting off water and denying aid among the others.

Wilful killing

Torture or inhuman treatment, including biological experiments;

Wilfully causing great suffering, or serious injury to body or health;

Extensive destruction and appropriation of property, not justified by military necessity and carried out unlawfully and wantonly;
www.un.org...

See that’s where you’re conflating a lot of things that hamas is actually responsible for.
Destruction of property…..that’s going to happen regardless in war and if combatants are being hidden in civilian dwellings, hospitals, schools, etc. it’s perfectly legal to bomb the piss out of them. So unless you know specific instances and reasons, no way to know a crime was committed. Same goes for bodily injuries. You think suffering is a war crime? News flash, that’s happened in every war ever fought.
Who was tortured by Israel? Be specific
Who, when and why was aid denied? You do know hamas was not allowing them to flee or receive aid at times,right? Israel set up medical and aid tents recently. They didn’t have to do that.
Cutting off water? Israel doesn’t have to provide them with jack besides they only provide a little over 10% of their water. So, no they didn’t cut off all their water or electricity. Not a war crime.

Do you see at all what I’m trying to say? Many of the issues you’ve brought up were most likely as a result of hamas’s war crimes or were not Israel’s responsibility. That’s why the whole genocide/war crimes narrative is BS. It’s all being pushed and manipulated by the media to low IQ gullible people who take all their nonsense as truth. When in fact nobody really knows the truth and it can’t be proven, unlike Palestinian war crimes that have been well documented and proven. How are you going to prove that a civilian dwelling didn’t have combatants or armory in it when it was bombed? We have video evidence that combatants and armory was being harbored and stored in civilian dwellings. I’ve seen the video proof.

No way in hell they prove anything without firsthand video evidence. This, he said, she said isn’t going to cut it and proves absolutely nothing. So, knowing all this how can you repeatedly claim genocide and that Israel is committing war crimes? Like I said the whole narrative that I’ve heard is nothing but unproven BS. Not to mention the death toll is low, that doesn’t really scream genocide does it?

Maybe Israel did commit a war crime here or there but name me one war that hasn’t happened on both sides. You’re making a lot of projections and assumptions that you really don’t know to be true.

…and arrest warrants for bibi, he’s not getting arrested, it’s just more BS😂😂😂

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: YourFaceAgain

I see you're back to your dishonest method of only posting partial definitions because the entire definition hurts the narrative you're trying to spin.

And you're back to your accusation tactics again

There's no accusations. It's a fact that you left out a critical part of the definition. One time, okay it's a mistake. But I've caught you doing this no less than 3 times in the last week. It's obviously deliberate.

I'll post quotes as I please.

That's why I made it a request. I have no authority to force you to change your posts. I figured you would double down on dishonesty and trying to mislead people, but I figured I'd at least ask nicely if you could knock that # off.

You prefer dishonesty and trying to spin a false narrative. Noted.

a reply to: gortex

But hey look at all those sock stars you got in a matter of minutes 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣whoever’s doing this has the IQ of a crayon. It’s absurd.

a reply to: mechtech87

"Palestinians want their land back"


The Palestinians are Squatters , they NEVER had a Land of their Own . The Arab Countries in the Middle East Tolerate their Presence and so does the STATE of Israel to an Extent . Historically they are Semitic Gypsys .

I guess??? I'm glad this is happening. I'm most certainly safe now against any attacks from China, Russia, all locations in ME etc..... They will all be arrested and tried by the ICC, or at least they'll all be skeered of the threat of it.

So, no worries at all then. I think I'll have a beer and relax for a change.

Curious as to what the penalties might be though, things look like they'll get MIGHTY unbearable for those targets of the ICC.

HAAAAHHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HAH!

Aaaaaaand, I guess we can call this ICC....CIC, as Completely InCompetent. Just a horse and pony show.

Netanyahu and Gallant do not face any immediate risk of prosecution. Israel is not a member of the court, but the threat of arrest could make it difficult for the Israeli leaders to travel abroad.

The ICC has issued arrest warrants for other leaders over the past roughly two decades since the court was established.

In March of last year, Russian President Vladimir Putin was accused of the abduction of children from Ukraine to Russia. He was charged along with Maria Alekseyevna Lvova-Belova, the Russian Commissioner for Children’s Rights.

The chances of Putin facing trial at the ICC are highly unlikely because Moscow does not recognize the court’s jurisdiction or extradite its nationals. Russia responded by issuing its own arrest warrants for Khan, the court’s prosecutor, and other ICC judges.

abcnews.go.com...#:~:text=The%20Hamas%20officials%20%E2% 80%94%20Ismail%20Haniyeh,taking%20hostages%2C%20rape%20and%20torture.

A joke of a legal maneuver.

originally posted by: StoutBroux


A joke of a legal maneuver.

That's pretty generous. It's more of a political stunt than a legal maneuver.

a reply to: StoutBroux

Russia responded by issuing its own arrest warrants for Khan, the court’s prosecutor, and other ICC judges.

Priceless 🤣. Now that’s a one finger salute.

Genocide Joe Biden and his alies in congress are not happy with this turn of events.

Biden administration open to action by Congress against ICC

Secretary of State Tony Blinken signaled the Biden administration would support bipartisan action in Congress against the prosecutor of the International Criminal Court (ICC) in response to its decision to seek arrest warrants against Israeli leaders.

Why it matters: Blinken's comments at a Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing on Tuesday reflected the Biden administration's anger and frustration over the prosecutor's decision.

Biden administration officials say ICC prosecutor Karim Khan reneged on his commitment to the U.S. to engage directly with the Israeli government before deciding on arrest warrants.

"The feeling in the administration is Khan lied to us," one U.S. official said, adding the administration feels deceived.

link

Senator Schumer Calls ICC Warrants for Israeli Leaders "Reprehensible"

Senator Schumer calls the ICC's announcement that it seeking arrest warrants for Israeli and Hamas leaders "reprehensible" and says that the court suggesting an equivalency between the two is another example of the court's bias against Israel.

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What kind of soft power does the Biden administration possess that technocrats in the international community find it so easy to lie to them? It's almost as if the US is a laughing stock on the world stage these days. No wonder it has been so difficult for the Administration to make any head way dealing with this conflict.