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originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: NoviceStoic4
I think for cloud seeding to work you need clouds?
The biggest technical challenge is dew point, and in order to affect this (in hot climates at least) it requires significant quantities of ice, lots of ice.
Air Force has already rendered HAARP reversibly inoperable through the removal or relocation of critical diagnostic instruments, instrument shelters, office furniture, and even tubes for the multiple transmitters.
HAARP is dead, long live HAARP
Though one of the main HAARP facilities was shut down a few years ago now. As for the technology, it just was militarized and now part of the 5G phased antenna array.
As for being able to produce Aurora effects, sure. It ain't fake when gigawatts of power is getting pumped in, it has to turn up somewhere.
originally posted by: ADVISOR
Come on people, stop gulping up the disinformation bs.
HAARP itself has been dismantled, since before 2015.
Not implying the capability is not being done elsewhere.
Air Force has already rendered HAARP reversibly inoperable through the removal or relocation of critical diagnostic instruments, instrument shelters, office furniture, and even tubes for the multiple transmitters.
HAARP is dead, long live HAARP
You want peer reviews?
Do a search and see for yourself, as a facility, it doesn't exist.
quote]originally posted by: Kurokage
a reply to: kwaka
Though one of the main HAARP facilities was shut down a few years ago now. As for the technology, it just was militarized and now part of the 5G phased antenna array.
As for being able to produce Aurora effects, sure. It ain't fake when gigawatts of power is getting pumped in, it has to turn up somewhere.
Scientific evidence for those claims??
Date: May 2, 2024
To: Amateur Radio & Radio Astronomy Communities
From: HAARP Program Office
Subject: Notice of Transmission
The High-frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) will be conducting a research campaign May 8-10 UTC, with operating times specified in the table below. Operating frequencies will vary, but all HAARP transmissions will be between 2.8 MHz and 10 MHz. Actual transmit days and times are highly variable based on real-time ionospheric and/or geomagnetic conditions. All information is subject to change.
originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk
Makes sense as it's pretty hard to seed clouds....without clouds.
As to the artificial generation of moisture that's going to be rather expensive.
And if there are humidifiers or misting systems involved I'm apt to ponder how many would be required to make a significant impact in the atmosphere.
Could they make the Sahara green again, I'm apt to think its possible but not exactly cost-effective.
originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: andy06shake
The biggest technical challenge is dew point, and in order to affect this (in hot climates at least) it requires significant quantities of ice, lots of ice. Many times this ice is stored in the form of gaseous frozen liquid like CO2, but there are other methods. Either way, it takes massive amounts of ice to change the dew point of the local atmospheric conditions.
Wouldn’t you also need a sufficient temperature drop? Add all the moisture you want. But if you don’t get a corresponding temperature drop to squeeze the moisture out, no meaningful rain.
Be better off piping the water in to a giant sprinkler system, or a subsurface wetting system.
There's nothing wrong with questioning the narrative, in fact most ATSers will probably tell you they don't trust mainstream media, which tends to distort things or sometimes distribute propaganda.
originally posted by: MrsPixie
Not you, and only in part Ive just lost interrest in engaging in the topic here. I thought this site was created for questioning the narrative, apparently only if you still tow the narrative when they done with you. Deny ignorance .. in silence please, don't rock the boat.
That does sound like an interesting experience but your statement "It's currently winter here in SA, which means we a currently furthest from the sun" suggests you have a misunderstanding about the seasons, which are not correlated with distance from the sun.
originally posted by: MrsPixie
It's currently winter here in SA, which means we a currently furthest from the sun, So this flare would have to be powerful enough to envelope the planet at midnight in winter so the I can stand on the beach and observe it clearly, everything was bathed in red, it was freaky to say the least ...
The seasons have nothing to do with how far the Earth is from the Sun. If this were the case, it would be hotter in the northern hemisphere during January as opposed to July. Instead, the seasons are caused by the Earth being tilted on its axis by an average of 23.5 degrees (Earth's tilt on its axis actually varies from near 22 degrees to 24.5 degrees).
originally posted by: MetalThunder
"Scientific evidence for those claims??"
Evidence ? How about an Official Notice
May 8-10, 2024 Transmission Notice
originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: NoviceStoic4
Yeah. I have been to the Sahara. Bloody cloudy and overcast every day. Not.