BUCKLE UP--Iranian Attack on Israel Imminent--US Officials Warn

originally posted by: 5thHead

originally posted by: quintessentone

Like I said, weird cherry picked article that does not meet the claim that 20% of American Muslims are committing acts of terrorism.

You asked, where are all the articles on Islamic terrorism in the US. Well, they're all over the place. It didn't take me long to find one. How many do you need?

You also suggested the feds have it under control and we should trust them. Just let them do their job. I disagree.

The link I posted raises questions about both of your points. The two I'm addressing. It's like a double whammy of things to think about.

Again, you did not provide articles on actual terrorist acts, so no questions raised on my side only the same one I am asking you, where are the articles of actual terrorist acts done by these 20% American Muslims?

a reply to: quintessentone

Oh, so when you want someone to backup their claim you expect them to provide links to articles for you. But when YOU make a claim and someone wants you to back it up, you expect them to google it for themselves because you can't be bothered to provide any links to articles backing your claim?

originally posted by: MrGashler
a reply to: quintessentone

Oh, so when you want someone to backup their claim you expect them to provide links to articles for you. But when YOU make a claim and someone wants you to back it up, you expect them to google it for themselves because you can't be bothered to provide any links to articles backing your claim?

Go back and reread what the poster posted from the article I posted originally, yes, of American Muslims polled 12% are in favor of targeting and killing civilians to further political, social or religious reasons, within that 5% said often and 7% said sometimes - that leaves 84% who said 'no'.

What would the numbers be for radical rightwing conservative groups, I wonder?

Anyway that was my source they used, I asked for them to prove this claim that U.S. Muslims are actually committing acts of terrorism, so far nadda.

Iran's delay and the world's anticipation of an attack continues to drive up oil prices to Iran's (and it's proxies') benefit.

Thank Joe Biden for this.

a reply to: quintessentone

That actually doesn't leave 84% who said no. That leaves 84% who either didn't respond, or responded with something other than those 3 options. Learning how to understand survey data would do you some good so you can do things like.... I dunno.....understand that 20% doesn't equate to a majority.

That being said, you clearly didn't understand my point.
When YOU want a claim backed up, you expect to be given articles/data/sources/proof by the claimant. When YOU make the claim and someone expects you to give articles/data/sources/proof of your claim, you respond by telling them to google it. I've literally watched you do this in another thread TODAY.

originally posted by: MrGashler
a reply to: quintessentone

That actually doesn't leave 84% who said no. That leaves 84% who either didn't respond, or responded with something other than those 3 options. Learning how to understand survey data would do you some good so you can do things like.... I dunno.....understand that 20% doesn't equate to a majority.

That being said, you clearly didn't understand my point.
When YOU want a claim backed up, you expect to be given articles/data/sources/proof by the claimant. When YOU make the claim and someone expects you to give articles/data/sources/proof of your claim, you respond by telling them to google it. I've literally watched you do this in another thread TODAY.

I absolutely understood what you were getting at, I just thought it not worth replying to. What I did reply to was an attempt to clue you in - fail. lol

Anyway, we are off topic.

originally posted by: CarlLaFong
Iran's delay and the world's anticipation of an attack continues to drive up oil prices to Iran's (and it's proxies') benefit.

Thank Joe Biden for this.

I am reading that the Russian attacks on Ukraine's infrastructure also has a part to play in oil prices rising. Also didn't China recently state that no force can prevent China from 'reuniting' with Taiwan, yes, and it all adds up to geopolitical tensions.

originally posted by: CarlLaFong
Iran's delay and the world's anticipation of an attack continues to drive up oil prices to Iran's (and it's proxies') benefit.

Thank Joe Biden for this.

How is the US or it’s president responsible for the timing of an attack in response to Israel?

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: CarlLaFong
Iran's delay and the world's anticipation of an attack continues to drive up oil prices to Iran's (and it's proxies') benefit.

Thank Joe Biden for this.

How is the US or it’s president responsible for the timing of an attack in response to Israel?

Biden refused to enforce existing US oil sanctions against Iran.

originally posted by: quintessentone

Go back and reread what the poster posted from the article I posted originally, yes, of American Muslims polled 12% are in favor of targeting and killing civilians to further political, social or religious reasons, within that 5% said often and 7% said sometimes - that leaves 84% who said 'no'.

So, 1 out of 10 people said they would target and kill innocent people.

Who cares about the other 84%. If 1 out of 10 isn't a big number to you then I don't know what to say.

originally posted by: CarlLaFong

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: CarlLaFong
Iran's delay and the world's anticipation of an attack continues to drive up oil prices to Iran's (and it's proxies') benefit.

Thank Joe Biden for this.

How is the US or it’s president responsible for the timing of an attack in response to Israel?

Biden refused to enforce existing US oil sanctions against Iran.

So Israel hits an Iranian embassy, Iran like most countries is at least talking tough that they’ll retaliate… And the ever diverse global market of private oil companies are raising oil prices in anticipation for a possible escalation in conflict…

But it’s the US’s admins fault because we’re allowing Iranian oil to be sold (which increases supply, and they would have sold it anyways to other countries anyways).

I’m sorry, but I don’t think I follow your logic. To me, it seems like the growing trend of always implying every geopolitical event is a result of domestic politics of the US.

We saw that a lot with Trump too when libs would point at everything happening in the world and make it Trumps fault.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

The day Biden took office, Iran was producing 400k barrels per day thanks to US sanctions.
Now, it's over 3m barrels per day.

a reply to: CarlLaFong

Hizbollah just launched dozens of missiles at Israel,Golan Heights region-


Thats a big amount for them to launch in one go-Hopefully not the start of something bigger involving Iran.

originally posted by: CarlLaFong
a reply to: CriticalStinker

The day Biden took office, Iran was producing 400k barrels per day thanks to US sanctions.
Now, it's over 3m barrels per day.

So you’re saying that an increase to global supply is what’s raising prices?

Or are you saying that since Iran is selling more oil, they’re stalling on their attack to temporarily raise oil prices in a time of uncertainty… an attack that is in retaliation to another nation who isn’t the US.

In either event, it feels like a really long stretch just to throw out a “thanks president _______ for increasing gas prices by 5c a gallon”.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
So Israel hits an Iranian embassy, ...

If there is a terrorist head living in the building and carrying out terrorist attacks against Israel out of it, does that building still get 'embassy' status, or has it made itself into a legitimate target of self defense?

Something to ponder.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

I'm really not trying to chastise you...but you need to pay better attention to what I had assumed you've read.

Your answers are already in my posts.

originally posted by: 5thHead

originally posted by: quintessentone

Go back and reread what the poster posted from the article I posted originally, yes, of American Muslims polled 12% are in favor of targeting and killing civilians to further political, social or religious reasons, within that 5% said often and 7% said sometimes - that leaves 84% who said 'no'.

So, 1 out of 10 people said they would target and kill innocent people.

Who cares about the other 84%. If 1 out of 10 isn't a big number to you then I don't know what to say.

What percentage of rightwing radical groups targeted and killed innocent people during Jan. 6th?

That's a concrete example, and all I was asking for are concrete evidence that U.S. Muslims are committing domestic terrorist acts, so far nadda.

a reply to: FlyersFan

I understand that logic.

But I’m sure there are people who are classified as terrorists by opposing nations in embassies at any given time. It’s international law that embassies are treated differently. The embassy is also classified as sovereign territory of the occupant.

I’m not going to cry for dead Iranian thugs.

But everyone knows that there is going to be a response to it.

The conversation I was having related to this was with a member implying the rising oil prices are due to US policy, and not the heightened tensions from recent events by two countries that aren’t the US.

originally posted by: CarlLaFong
a reply to: CriticalStinker

I'm really not trying to chastise you...but you need to pay better attention to what I had assumed you've read.

Your answers are already in my posts.

No, I don’t think they are.

I believe you’re under the impression rising oil prices are because of US policy, and not the threat of an escalating conflict between two nations that could engulf the Middle East, neither of whom are the US… though I’m sure we’d get involved.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: CarlLaFong
a reply to: CriticalStinker

I'm really not trying to chastise you...but you need to pay better attention to what I had assumed you've read.

Your answers are already in my posts.

No, I don’t think they are.

I believe you’re under the impression rising oil prices are because of US policy, and not the threat of an escalating conflict between two nations that could engulf the Middle East, neither of whom are the US… though I’m sure we’d get involved.

Not at all what I said.

Due to Biden not enforcing US oil sanctions against Iran, Iran is now able to produce, sell and financially benefit from 800% more oil in the marketplace...while at the same time currently manipulating and inflating world oil prices through it's threats and delay of retaliation against Israel.