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originally posted by: xuenchen
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: xuenchen
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: Dandandat3
a reply to: WeMustCare
I have read on another message board that the people of New York are the victims; because due to Donald Trump's fraud with the banks it caused increased prices when those banks made loans to other parties.
Why does it even matter?
Trump "cooked the books" and got caught.
The "pretzel excuses" do not change the fact he intentionally committed fraud.
Legally it could make a difference between what is Fascism and Regular plain old Justice and DUE PROCESS and Equal Protection under The Law. 😃
Bitter Jealousy and Mob Rule Vengeance doesn't count as Legal Remedies. 😀
Fraud, whether criminal or civil, involves the purposeful misrepresentation of facts. Interestingly, it is not necessary for there to have been damages incurred by a victim in cases of fraud
A fair an honest Appeal in Court is part of Due Process and Equal Protection. 😀
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: xuenchen
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: xuenchen
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: Dandandat3
a reply to: WeMustCare
I have read on another message board that the people of New York are the victims; because due to Donald Trump's fraud with the banks it caused increased prices when those banks made loans to other parties.
Why does it even matter?
Trump "cooked the books" and got caught.
The "pretzel excuses" do not change the fact he intentionally committed fraud.
Legally it could make a difference between what is Fascism and Regular plain old Justice and DUE PROCESS and Equal Protection under The Law. 😃
Bitter Jealousy and Mob Rule Vengeance doesn't count as Legal Remedies. 😀
Fraud, whether criminal or civil, involves the purposeful misrepresentation of facts. Interestingly, it is not necessary for there to have been damages incurred by a victim in cases of fraud
A fair an honest Appeal in Court is part of Due Process and Equal Protection. 😀
And . . . ?
Am I arguing about process?
originally posted by: xuenchen
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: xuenchen
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: xuenchen
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: Dandandat3
a reply to: WeMustCare
I have read on another message board that the people of New York are the victims; because due to Donald Trump's fraud with the banks it caused increased prices when those banks made loans to other parties.
Why does it even matter?
Trump "cooked the books" and got caught.
The "pretzel excuses" do not change the fact he intentionally committed fraud.
Legally it could make a difference between what is Fascism and Regular plain old Justice and DUE PROCESS and Equal Protection under The Law. 😃
Bitter Jealousy and Mob Rule Vengeance doesn't count as Legal Remedies. 😀
Fraud, whether criminal or civil, involves the purposeful misrepresentation of facts. Interestingly, it is not necessary for there to have been damages incurred by a victim in cases of fraud
A fair an honest Appeal in Court is part of Due Process and Equal Protection. 😀
And . . . ?
Am I arguing about process?
Yes. 😃 And you don't even know it. That's part of the problem
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: Xtrozero
originally posted by: Annee
I READ.
I read all sides.
You don't seem to.
Well, you need to read some more. Your statements tend to be ignorant of the process you are calling fraud. Also, are you suggesting everyone is committing fraud since this is the normal practice of real estate?
I read just fine.
Trump lied. He padded assets. He cooked the books.
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: xuenchen
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: xuenchen
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: xuenchen
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: Dandandat3
a reply to: WeMustCare
I have read on another message board that the people of New York are the victims; because due to Donald Trump's fraud with the banks it caused increased prices when those banks made loans to other parties.
Why does it even matter?
Trump "cooked the books" and got caught.
The "pretzel excuses" do not change the fact he intentionally committed fraud.
Legally it could make a difference between what is Fascism and Regular plain old Justice and DUE PROCESS and Equal Protection under The Law. 😃
Bitter Jealousy and Mob Rule Vengeance doesn't count as Legal Remedies. 😀
Fraud, whether criminal or civil, involves the purposeful misrepresentation of facts. Interestingly, it is not necessary for there to have been damages incurred by a victim in cases of fraud
A fair an honest Appeal in Court is part of Due Process and Equal Protection. 😀
And . . . ?
Am I arguing about process?
Yes. 😃 And you don't even know it. That's part of the problem
I know exactly what I am saying.
Trump was found guilty and fined.
He has to pay the bond before he can appeal.
At this point -- nothing has changed.
originally posted by: RazorV66
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: Xtrozero
originally posted by: Annee
I READ.
I read all sides.
You don't seem to.
Well, you need to read some more. Your statements tend to be ignorant of the process you are calling fraud. Also, are you suggesting everyone is committing fraud since this is the normal practice of real estate?
I read just fine.
Trump lied. He padded assets. He cooked the books.
There is no crime according to every real estate agent out there.
Will you come back and apologize when it doesn’t go the way you want it to?
originally posted by: RazorV66
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: RazorV66
a reply to: Annee
Are you magically going to make that not be?
The Supreme Court will.
Will you apologize when that happens?
I don't think so.
Not surprising, you’ll just do this……..
originally posted by: Irishhaf
a reply to: Dandandat3
Ok so thats a who was hurt... next is who gets the money?
None of it makes any sense, If I am a betting man they are going to say the govt was the injured party so they get to keep the money and spend it as they see fit.
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: xuenchen
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: xuenchen
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: Dandandat3
a reply to: WeMustCare
I have read on another message board that the people of New York are the victims; because due to Donald Trump's fraud with the banks it caused increased prices when those banks made loans to other parties.
Why does it even matter?
Trump "cooked the books" and got caught.
The "pretzel excuses" do not change the fact he intentionally committed fraud.
Legally it could make a difference between what is Fascism and Regular plain old Justice and DUE PROCESS and Equal Protection under The Law. 😃
Bitter Jealousy and Mob Rule Vengeance doesn't count as Legal Remedies. 😀
Fraud, whether criminal or civil, involves the purposeful misrepresentation of facts. Interestingly, it is not necessary for there to have been damages incurred by a victim in cases of fraud
A fair an honest Appeal in Court is part of Due Process and Equal Protection. 😀
And . . . ?
Am I arguing about process?
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: RazorV66
a reply to: Annee
Are you magically going to make that not be?
The Supreme Court will.
Will you apologize when that happens?
I don't think so.
originally posted by: Justoneman
No you are arguing about something AGAIN you WISH you were right when you are wrong. SDDS.. we said in the Army,
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: xuenchen
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: xuenchen
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: Dandandat3
a reply to: WeMustCare
I have read on another message board that the people of New York are the victims; because due to Donald Trump's fraud with the banks it caused increased prices when those banks made loans to other parties.
Why does it even matter?
Trump "cooked the books" and got caught.
The "pretzel excuses" do not change the fact he intentionally committed fraud.
Legally it could make a difference between what is Fascism and Regular plain old Justice and DUE PROCESS and Equal Protection under The Law. 😃
Bitter Jealousy and Mob Rule Vengeance doesn't count as Legal Remedies. 😀
Fraud, whether criminal or civil, involves the purposeful misrepresentation of facts. Interestingly, it is not necessary for there to have been damages incurred by a victim in cases of fraud
A fair an honest Appeal in Court is part of Due Process and Equal Protection. 😀
And . . . ?
Am I arguing about process?
originally posted by: Justoneman
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: RazorV66
a reply to: Annee
Are you magically going to make that not be?
The Supreme Court will.
Will you apologize when that happens?
I don't think so.
I predict you can't change because your lies are embedded as facts so deep up the Fascists asses that it has to continue.
S0, no you won't.
Will you be proven as an ignorant shill or not? That is all that is left now.
We know what stupidity looks like.
Your side needs to wipe off that foggy bathroom mirror and see the person causing the problems.
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: Justoneman
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: RazorV66
a reply to: Annee
Are you magically going to make that not be?
The Supreme Court will.
Will you apologize when that happens?
I don't think so.
I predict you can't change because your lies are embedded as facts so deep up the Fascists asses that it has to continue.
S0, no you won't.
Will you be proven as an ignorant shill or not? That is all that is left now.
We know what stupidity looks like.
Your side needs to wipe off that foggy bathroom mirror and see the person causing the problems.
Can you debate without attempts at insult?
What are your facts?