About the conflict between Ukraine and the West with Russia in simple words

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: YouSir
Ummm...is..."English"...a race...?

Well ... I did that 23 & me DNA testing and it came back 90% English/Irish.
(8% German and 2% other stuff)
My ancestors came from England and Ireland.
So maybe? I dunno ...

I'll send you some tea and biscuits!!

Maybe we should send Putin some and he'll calm down and withdraw his troops from Ukraine....

originally posted by: Kurokage
I'll send you some tea and biscuits!!

Awwwww.

This is my English ancestor - Rev John Lothropp
He got kicked out of England for being a troublemaker.
Some kind of protestant clergy.
(No, Im' not Protestant)

My Irish ancestors are Flannagans.
They came over here recently.
By recent, I mean within the past 150 years.

originally posted by: malte86
a reply to: RussianTroll

what i like best about your threads: it shows that many of us here on ats may have different opinions on some fundamental issues, but when it comes to this war, we all share the same attitude. exactly the opposite effect that russian propaganda wants.

Ummm...are you entirely certain you understand what you've just written...?

Your merely confirming that your...ahem..."we all"...have fallen under the sway of western propaganda...

Isn't psychology fun...?





YouSir

a reply to: Kurokage

Don't forget the Polonium.....

(barely established 1900s Ukraine to present): “Donetsk is Ukraine?”

Vs

(centuries old sovereign Kosovo with Serbia gets bombed for 72days by NATO in 99’ on Serbia/Kosovo stripped with NATO base) by Clinton/Biden/Tony Blair

originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: Kurokage

Yeah, the Dagger rocket doesn't cost anywhere near $10 million. But in the well-known video of the destruction of Partiot by the Dagger, Patriot fired more than 20 missiles, failed to shoot down, and was himself destroyed.

Let's count?))))))

Ummm...in fact...the patriot fired all 32 of it's interceptors at the incoming Dagger...and then was subsequently destroyed by the Dagger...

It was a beautiful thing to watch...

I counted them all as they were fired when the video's first came out...



YouSir

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a reply to: YouSir

You find death and destruction " beautiful"?

Ummmmm....

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: RussianTroll
I will try to explain to my American friends the essence of the conflict in simple words that everyone can understand.

/the West is trying to help the Ukraine keep their rightful land and not get slaughtered.

NATO promised to help Ukraine because Ukraine decided to cooperate with nuclear non-proliferation in the immediate post-Soviet era and sent its nukes back to Russia.

a reply to: Imhere

Sounds rather to me cryptic Imhere.

I am not quite sure if it's a threat, advice, or possibly something in between.

Again start a thread on it I'm sure ile get the gist and happily participate if I can think of anything to say.

The fishing part sounds good all the same, I would stick with that.

originally posted by: RussianTroll

I live in Saratov (a city in the province of about 900,000 inhabitants). I have an apartment in the Center (2 bedrooms), a dacha (this is a country house where you can relax and have barbecue) and a 6-year-old Cadillac Escalade car. That is, the previous series. I work honestly, every year I go to the Caucasus to meet with my classmates (I don’t like Turkey, Egypt, Dubai and Thailand) and I don’t need anything.
I have a beloved woman, friends, beloved relatives with whom I celebrate all the holidays. I am a patrite of my Motherland. I help people from Donbass. I believe in God. I'm happy.
Can you say the same about yourself?

I'm not going to get into a D-measuring contest with you, but I live very well, better than you do by your examples, but once again I said this isn't about you and your family who are in the top 5% of Russia. I keep coming back to the vast majority that lives in poverty, so once again is not the retirement pay 238 per month in Rubles?

originally posted by: Solvedit

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: RussianTroll
I will try to explain to my American friends the essence of the conflict in simple words that everyone can understand.

/the West is trying to help the Ukraine keep their rightful land and not get slaughtered.

NATO promised to help Ukraine because Ukraine decided to cooperate with nuclear non-proliferation in the immediate post-Soviet era and sent its nukes back to Russia.

Promise? Like having Clinton/Biden etc do pay for play harboring/ protecting Al qaeda cells in mid/ south Balkans

A little studying, and good times ahead. F everything else

originally posted by: CarlLaFong

originally posted by: Kurokage
a reply to: RussianTroll

Google Translator began to translate me incorrectly))))

We have a saying too "A bad workman always blames his tools". Is that what your tank crews do too??

To be fair...Russian tools are likely no better made than their tanks.

Ummm...funny...while all the Us and British tools...are currently occupying this thread...



YouSir

a reply to: Xtrozero

The fact is the families who exist in the top 5% of Russia(financial-wise) probably don't know much about poor people if anything at all really.

It is a bit like asking the likes of Rishi Sunak or his ilk how much the average Joe spends in Lidl each week.

To which I imagine the answer would be "whats a Lidl?"

In other words, before you can raise a lip about Ukraine, you have to look at Kosovo/Serbia.

Period

a reply to: alldaylong

Like 80% of Germanys soldiers died fighting the USSR...

originally posted by: YouSir

originally posted by: malte86
a reply to: RussianTroll

what i like best about your threads: it shows that many of us here on ats may have different opinions on some fundamental issues, but when it comes to this war, we all share the same attitude. exactly the opposite effect that russian propaganda wants.

Ummm...are you entirely certain you understand what you've just written...?

Your merely confirming that your...ahem..."we all"...have fallen under the sway of western propaganda...

Isn't psychology fun...?

YouSir

so, which western propaganda exactly? i don't remember that russia was demonized before this war, on the contrary, the relationship has become normalized and friendly after the fall of the wall. there are russians living in germany and vice versa. this war is not justified and all the damage to people and material is the responsibility of russia. i don't need propaganda for that conclusion. where do you get your conviction from? and yes, i think most people here can look at it quite unemotionally and say: this war is wrong. ask the swedes, norwegians, the neighboring states what they think of this war and why they all stand united against russia, only dictators and populists, the extremists from left and right somehow try to justify this war of aggression.

a reply to: Imhere

Again not the same thing or even on-topic.

Thread is about "the conflict between Ukraine and the West with Russia", and we have been encouraged, twice now not to drift.

Start a thread on the subject, or not, it's up to you.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: YouSir

Is Russia not targeting civilians?

You want more evidence for this?

Ummm...More evidence...?

In order to have..."more evidence"...you first have to present...the initial evidence...

Being as you've never bothered to dig through your propaganda files and link some of that MSM..."Fake news"...then the point is rather moot...

Don't you think...?



YouSir