About the conflict between Ukraine and the West with Russia in simple words

Hello ATS!

I am writing this thread exclusively for my American friends on the forum. My English “friends” can rest, especially since I will not answer them in any case because of their insults (not to me personally, but to the entire Russian people), which is a clear manifestation of Nazism and racism. I disdain them.

So, I will try to explain to my American friends the essence of the conflict in simple words that everyone can understand.

Imagine that you are a simple, hardworking, honest farmer - a Christian. You raise your children, work on your farm, go to Church on Sundays, love your neighbors and wish prosperity to both your family and your homeland. Next door, on a neighboring farm, your brother and his family live. Once upon a time, when your parents were alive, you lived on the same farm and had a common household. you were friendly and loved each other.

But then a rich stranger settled next to your common farm and decided, through various intrigues and the threat of force, to take away your farm, which had belonged to your ancestors for many centuries. For starters, your new neighbor killed your parents. You, as the eldest in the family, gave your brother a separate farm, and your brother became separated from you. This idea was instilled in him for a long time by his new neighbor, promising his brother various benefits.

After the separation, the new neighbor began to instill in your brother hatred and envy of you. Like, his land is more fertile, and there is more of it, and there are enormous riches on your land that must be taken away from you, because it will be “fair.” For many years, the new neighbor instills hatred in your brother towards you and eventually achieves that your brother hates you and is even ready to kill you in order to take everything from you.

And then the new neighbor orders your brother to kill you and your family. He supplies him with money, weapons, all his capabilities, and your brother begins by first #ting under your doors, then killing your cattle, burning your crops. And then he openly begins to kill members of your family - your children, uncles, aunts, your brothers and sisters.

He ends up handing your brother a weapon that could completely destroy you. That is, the new neighbor is the orderer of the murder of you and your family, of which you are the head and elder. And the perpetrator of the murder is your brother. And what will you do in this situation? Very simple.

You arm yourself and eliminate the threat. First you will try to reason with your brother, you will talk to him for a long time, transfer your wealth to him and appeal to his conscience. But that doesn't help. And when your brother begins to burn your children in the fire (in the literal sense of the word), your patience ends. You come to your brother and start beating him very hard, maybe even kicking him.

Here your new neighbor starts a worldwide hysteria about “human rights”, “attack on a sovereign brother” and similar nonsense. At the same time, he sends heavy and long-range weapons to your brother so that he will completely destroy you. Naturally, with the truth on your side, you begin to destroy all of your brother's capabilities, and he ends up panicking.

The question is different. What to do with the new neighbor? After all, according to all laws, it is he who ordered the murder of your family and the destruction of your farm, who provides your brother with both the money to kill you and all the necessary weapons for this. What do they usually do with those who order murders? They are destroyed and executed, and the customer bears a heavier responsibility than a simple performer. These are human and legal laws. And you have an absolute (nuclear) weapon that is guaranteed to destroy your enemies.

Now think about what Russia should do with the West, and how fair will the upcoming punishment of the customer be?


Thank you!



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Here it is in simpler words. Russia illegally invaded Ukraine. Ukraine involved the Budapest Memorandum. Western nations honored their obligation.

originally posted by: Threadbarer
Here it is in simpler words. Russia illegally invaded Ukraine. Ukraine involved the Budapest Memorandum. Western nations honored their obligation.

But a rich new neighbor has appeared, who is the customer of your murder.

A better analogy:

You and your brother both work farms You are both good, honest, god fearing people. From birth you have been taught that the people in the next valley, who have much more prosperous farms, are bad and want to take your farms from you. Although there is actually no evidence of this. This misunderstanding dates back to when your grandparents tried to take over all the farms in the next valley for themselves, before eventually the people there managed to get them all back, largely without bloodshed.

One day your brother befriends the people from the next valley. They offer to help him make his farm better. He welcomes their offer, realising now that the stories his grandparents told about them were not entirely true.

What do you do?

You attack your brother to destroy farm and stop the people from the next valley making it more prosperous than you own ....

originally posted by: WaESN
A better analogy:

You and your brother both work farms You are both good, honest, god fearing people. From birth you have been taught that the people in the next valley, who have much more prosperous farms, are bad and want to take your farms from you. Although there is actually no evidence of this. This misunderstanding dates back to when your grandparents tried to take over all the farms in the next valley for themselves, before eventually the people there managed to get them all back, largely without bloodshed.

One day your brother befriends the people from the next valley. They offer to help him make his farm better. He welcomes their offer, realising now that the stories his grandparents told about them were not entirely true.

What do you do?

You attack your brother to destroy farm and stop the people from the next valley making it more prosperous than you own ....

Interesting question: What do you care about my family?
Take care of your family!
Or by analogy, my family will begin to do to your family the same thing that you do to my family.

a reply to: RussianTroll

I am writing this thread exclusively for my American friends on the forum. My English “friends” can rest, especially since I will not answer them in any case because of their insults (not to me personally, but to the entire Russian people), which is a clear manifestation of Nazism and racism. I disdain them.

***Translation***
"I believe I can fool MAGA Americans but not Brits"
Thanks for the compliment.

What do they usually do with those who order murders? They are destroyed and executed,

Guessing that doesn't apply to Russia's murderer in chief.

Fact is RT I don't know anyone who has a problem with Russians , many live and work here and those I've met seem like decent hard working people as with most Eastern European people , your hatred for Brits stems from the fact we stand against your Boss , that's a you problem mate.

Sorry RT, but this.....

My English “friends” can rest, especially since I will not answer them in any case because of their insults (not to me personally, but to the entire Russian people), which is a clear manifestation of Nazism and racism.

...... is racism tight there

No Rainbows or S&F for that matter, for you today
Jane

originally posted by: RussianTroll
honest

The true God is always honest, and you can hear him when you listen to your heart!

The true God want all creatures to be the best version of themselves - and we can only achieve that through unconditional love.

So, give a sweet kiss to the world

a reply to: gortex

a reply to: RussianTroll

Oh dear.

Not even a page deep.

And already you seem to be breaking your own racist rules with your replies.

A quarter of an hour you lasted.

Your clown shoes RT.

a reply to: RussianTroll

My English “friends” can rest, especially since I will not answer them in any case because of their insults (not to me personally, but to the entire Russian people), which is a clear manifestation of Nazism and racism. I disdain them.

You need to get the history books out.

It was The British who fought against Nazism in the 1930's and 40's. Russia fought alongside the Nazi's.

How do you explain that ? Or should i say, how do you try and deny that.

a reply to: RussianTroll
Well here's my English take for you.
1.A simple farming family. Check
2.The farm has been in their family for decades. Check
3. Some one comes along and wants their farm. Check
4. They then forcibly take the farm. Check
5. They give your enemies weapons to fight you. Check
6. They actively encourage your neighbours to hate you. Check
7. They attack you and even imprison you if you so much as say a wrong word. Check
8. Now your life and your families lives are completely ruined. Check
Above there are 8 very exact examples of what Russia did to it's own people under Stalin. But then again you will say "but Russia is different now". BS BS BS.
Have a nice day.

a reply to: alldaylong

Then there were the artic convoys laden with fighting equipment and supplies sent from the UK en mass to his nation during the war.

That kept Russia in the fight.

And stopped them from being overrun.

By the same nazi scum, he chooses to call us!

The man is pathetic really.

originally posted by: crayzeed
a reply to: RussianTroll
Well here's my English take for you.
1.A simple farming family. Check
2.The farm has been in their family for decades. Check
3. Some one comes along and wants their farm. Check
4. They then forcibly take the farm. Check
5. They give your enemies weapons to fight you. Check
6. They actively encourage your neighbours to hate you. Check
7. They attack you and even imprison you if you so much as say a wrong word. Check
8. Now your life and your families lives are completely ruined. Check
Above there are 8 very exact examples of what Russia did to it's own people under Stalin. But then again you will say "but Russia is different now". BS BS BS.
Have a nice day.

Russia is the same as it has been for centuries.

Ownership of land by Western nations. Check. Examination.

a reply to: RussianTroll


RT i have strong sense to believe that you are narcissistic person .

a reply to: Kenzo

He does not like the British heat and wants us to stay out of his racist kitchen that's for sure.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: alldaylong

Then there were the artic convoys laden with fighting equipment and supplies sent from the UK en mass to his nation during the war.

That kept Russia in the fight.

And stopped them from being overrun.

By the same nazi scum, he chooses to call us!

The man is pathetic really.

And when Russia did finally relise what side they should have been on, The RAF 151st Wing was based in Vaenga Russia from 1941.

originally posted by: Kenzo
a reply to: RussianTroll


RT i have strong sense to believe that you are narcissistic person .

Rely on your health. We have a democracy, you can believe whatever you want.

From a moral point of view, attacking my personality and personal insults do not fit into the rules of our forum and, accordingly, characterize you personally.

Why do you keep threatening the use of nuclear weapons ?

You do know that if Russia launches against the U.S. or NATO countries, your own country will cease to exist shortly after, right ?

Hundreds of millions will die and you seem to relish the idea.

Is your Dear Leader crazy enough to destroy his own country in a fit of pique ?