The War in Israel must stop

a reply to: Dalamax

The History lesson was to let you know as Flyers Fan said, there never was a Palastinian people to whom the land "belonged". The natives of the land to whom the land originally belonged was the Jewish people. So if you want to make sure the right people have the land, it would be the Jewish people.

Race and culture are 2 different things. Personally I don't believe in "race", it is a made up divisive term, because every race has melanin the protein/hormone that makes skin color, only in differing amounts. People of every race have large noses, small noses, thin lips, fat lips, small eyes, large eyes, even blue eyes. Race is simply a social construct that came about due to massive inbreeding when most people never traveled more than 20 miles from where they were born. But you insisted the Palestinian race needed to get back "their" land. (quotes around a word, mean it is set aside in emphasis)
But racially in the way you mean it and others mean it the Palestinians and Israelis are the same race as they have the same ancestry and then split into different groups, each going their own way. Jewish people settling in what became Israel. I was attempting to write at a level one who believes race is something real can understand when I spoke of "race".

The purpose of the ancestor lesson since you can't figure it out was: The 2 peoples, the Israelis and the Islamists (who became the self identified Palestinians) have been at war with each other for over 3000 years. Back to when the 2 brothers when their separate ways to seperate lands, the other brother settled in what is now termed the Middle East outside of Israel. The people who self identified as the Palestinians a few decades ago have been brutally attacking and demanding land from the Jews going back 3000 years.

This is not a new conflict, it is well over 3000 years old with the Jews leaving the Palestinians alone, but the people who became the terrorist group Hamas, attacking, killing, raping Jews has been doing this going back well over 3000 years.

The photos of Jesus, who everyone knows was born a Jew, descended from King David who ruled over Israel thousands of years ago when the land had its first civilization and government. To show you a facsimile of Jesus, a Jew just before the Roman empire took the land, was to show you that the Jews and Arabs are the same "race" in the way people define race for their own divisive purposes. So while many Jews today look "white" that doesn't make them "white" in the way ignorant people think. Their ancestors were the original native population of the land, just because many are not higher in melanin today doesn't negate the fact they are the original governmental and civilization holding natives of the land.

Without a history lesson people say ignorant things like "give them back their land", when it was never their land. Or ignorant things like stop attacking them, when for well over 3000 years, off and on, the Jews have been fending off attack after attack after attack by the same people demanding land that was never theirs. Defending yourself, your people and demanding back hostages as the only condition of ending the defensive moves is not attacking anyone, it is self defense. I liken it to the abusive husband and the wife who has had enough when he starts beating the children, and attacks the husband viciously to get him to stop. You appear to be on the side of the proverbial abusive husband. (P.S. if you don't understand my writing, use a dictionary)

If you have trouble understanding the above, please start reading more and especially history. Get some reputable books on subjects before you spout off. I am a retired Professor and so probably write at a level you can attain when you start reading reputable books.

The major point is: The land was NEVER there's, it was only when I was a young person that a man made up the term.

To not know history means one is doomed to repeat it. This time liberals are on the wrong side of history because they don't know it, out of ignorance only.

To not know history means one makes totally ignorant statements like, "return" the land to ..... (someone who never owned the land, ever)

To say to a retired Professor, I don't get the point, says a great deal about one's level of education, reading ability, and desire to learn from sources other than pop culture and believing the latest people who scream the loudest, instead of truth tellers. Several of the most learned and intelligent people I have ever known never went to college, they could not because of economics. So they read good books, read widely, and read daily books that made them into some of the smartest and wisest people I have ever met. You can do this too.

originally posted by: Boogerpicker

originally posted by: IndieA
Come on man, Bebe has the civilian to terrorist kill ratio down below 1:1. (Sarcasm)

Israel kills more terrorists than civilians, Netanyahu claims

Israel is now killing more Hamas militants than civilians in Gaza, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu claimed in an interview with American media on Sunday.

His remarks came as the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) was preparing a ground assault of the overcrowded city of Rafah in southern Gaza. 

"We’ve brought down the civilian-to-terrorist casualties, the ratio down, to below 1-to-1, which is considerably less than in any other theater of similar warfare. And we’re going to do more,” Netanyahu pledged.

Genocide is not the answer to terrorism.

Casualties of war and genocide are not the same thing. Until you learn the difference I'll assume you're an 18 yr old liberal arts major.

Unfortunately, Western society today is structured so that people can maintain the naive, uninformed worldview of an 18 year old liberal arts major for their entire lives.

It's not coincidence that Western civilization is in decline. We're producing people by the millions that are completely detached from reality, and rather than correcting that, we're reinforcing and enabling it.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: Lovelyldy
So you want rid of the people too . You guys would hate the Indians too .

You must want to genocide the jews ... afterall, you are calling for them to stop protecting themselves from the genocide that is being called down upon them by the 'palestinians' and Hamas. That' makes you genocidal of Jews. Instead of screaming nonsense at others being genocidal when they clearly aren't, you should take a long look at yourself in the mirror.

No I don’t . I don’t want anyone dying . The Jews don’t own a country . Israel is not Jewish . It is a state . There’s no religion involved with a state . There’s no religion involved with committing genocide . The leaders of Israel and their bosses the Rothschilds are satanists . Don’t let them fool you . Just like Clinton and the our politicians are Satanist’s . Protecting yourself doesn’t mean advancing your border and killing the people who lived there prior before the Britain and USA gave them the land

Only way it stops is when all the people Israel doesn’t want there are killed or moved away .


That’s what all these people want . Anyone who is cool with that must like hitler . That’s what he wanted to do also

Only way it stops is when all the people Israel doesn’t want there are killed or moved away .


That’s what all these people want . Anyone who is cool with that must like hitler . That’s what he wanted to do also

originally posted by: Lovelyldy
Only way it stops is when all the people Israel doesn’t want there are killed or moved away .


That’s what all these people want . Anyone who is cool with that must like hitler . That’s what he wanted to do also

Ironic, that is "palestinians" desire for the Jews and Christians.

Civilian casualties suck, but it's my opinion that by allowing the terrorist group HAMAS to govern the Palestinian territory the Palestinians get what's coming. It's war. Israel was attacked in a vicious and disgusting manner that targeted civilians. Teens at a music festival. Women dragged naked through the streets. Doesn't that sound like intentional civilian casualties?
It sounds hateful but I could understand why Israel might find a scorched earth policy to be an answer to the attack they suffered, yet civilized people are attempting to minimize civilian deaths. Pretty plain to me who has the moral high ground.

originally posted by: Lovelyldy
Israel is not Jewish . It is a state . There’s no religion involved with a state .

Extremely narrow-minded, uninformed, and incorrect. Like most critics of Israel, you don't know the first thing about the country. And beyond Israel, this comment is more broadly also incorrect. There are a number of states where religion is central and woven into the actual functions of their government. Most of them are Muslim. One is Jewish.

Judaism has been an influential force in Israel since the country’s inception. According to Israeli law, Israel is defined as a Jewish state. As such, Judaism continues to play a major role in Israel’s political and state institutions. Many of the country’s national and cultural symbols are also derived from Judaism. Aspects of Judaism pervade everyday life, such as the many restaurants, cafes and stores that observe kosher dietary practices. The Jewish legal system comprises a joint chief rabbinical council, with one Ashkenazi and one Sephardi rabbinate to represent the two largest Jewish groups. Each city or area of government has a religious council (headed by a rabbi) that regulates Jewish practices of dietary law, as well as personal legal matters.

There are more examples of how Judaism is woven into the state, but most whiners about Israel are staunchly opposed to learning anything so I'm not gonna bother going on.

Palestine should be turned into the worlds largest glass table after what hamas did october 7. a reply to: network dude

originally posted by: YourFaceAgain

originally posted by: Lovelyldy
Israel is not Jewish . It is a state . There’s no religion involved with a state .

Extremely narrow-minded, uninformed, and incorrect. Like most critics of Israel, you don't know the first thing about the country. And beyond Israel, this comment is more broadly also incorrect. There are a number of states where religion is central and woven into the actual functions of their government. Most of them are Muslim. One is Jewish.

Judaism has been an influential force in Israel since the country’s inception. According to Israeli law, Israel is defined as a Jewish state. As such, Judaism continues to play a major role in Israel’s political and state institutions. Many of the country’s national and cultural symbols are also derived from Judaism. Aspects of Judaism pervade everyday life, such as the many restaurants, cafes and stores that observe kosher dietary practices. The Jewish legal system comprises a joint chief rabbinical council, with one Ashkenazi and one Sephardi rabbinate to represent the two largest Jewish groups. Each city or area of government has a religious council (headed by a rabbi) that regulates Jewish practices of dietary law, as well as personal legal matters.

There are more examples of how Judaism is woven into the state, but most whiners about Israel are staunchly opposed to learning anything so I'm not gonna bother going on.

I don’t care what their laws say . We can make a law saying anything. No country is a religious country . Countries can’t hide behind religion. That’s most peoples problem here , they can’t Sept church from state . Ben N is not a Jew . He’s a satanist , that’s why he can slaughter and kill without a second thought. The Rothschilds have brainwashed you all until you think genocide is cool .

a reply to: YourFaceAgain

Being Jewish doesn’t mean you can commit genocide I don’t think . I don’t know the laws of Israel but I think genocide is illegal there

I just popped in to say killing people and moving them off “your” borders is sick and disgusting. I never root for death unless it’s the tyrannical bastards enslaving us. You guys carry on with the genocide . Hitler would approve of it

originally posted by: Lovelyldy
a reply to: YourFaceAgain

Being Jewish doesn’t mean you can commit genocide I don’t think . I don’t know the laws of Israel but I think genocide is illegal there

I just popped in to say killing people and moving them off “your” borders is sick and disgusting. I never root for death unless it’s the tyrannical bastards enslaving us. You guys carry on with the genocide . Hitler would approve of it

Nice one .. wasting
your time on here though .. . They love death and killing, they can find all kinds of justification for it as well.

Sick

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: PeelingOnions
a reply to: darkwingduck

OP wasn't too comfortable talking about that part. But what happened to the economic upside of skyrocketing weapon sales during WW3, inquiring fascists wanna know?

explain how exactly please.

Let's just say we see what you did there, so why don't you explain yourself before we do?

Does this sudden increase of profits from weapon sales frighten you a little or what exactly is going on with you? Total victory and westward expansion much?

originally posted by: TheSingleBillie
a reply to: Dalamax

The History lesson was to let you know as Flyers Fan said, there never was a Palastinian people to whom the land "belonged". The natives of the land to whom the land originally belonged was the Jewish people. So if you want to make sure the right people have the land, it would be the Jewish people.

Just honestly curious, who lived there before "GOD" sent Abraham and his son "isreal" from Babylon to fail in cleansing the region? Because those same people still lived there 1000's of years later when brittain took it over and then gave it to the Jews after WWII

The last Palestinian invasion of the area, carried out by the Jews, came from Britain with the British Mandate over Palestine.

After the First World War and the defeat of the Ottoman Empire, the division of the area of Palestine remained in the hands of Great Britain. It was the British who promised, through the "Balfour Declaration" in 1917, the creation of a "Home for the Jews" in Palestine. (If you want to delve deeper into the subject, I recommend reading about the creator of the Zionist movement, Theodor Herzl, who was the one who planted the seed of active Zionism and the firm idea of ​​seeking a home for the Jews, valuing places like South America, Kenya and Palestine, the promised land)
With UN resolution 181 in 1947, which marked the lines in Palestine of the Arab people and the new State of Israel, the conflict ended (they had once again distributed the Arab people to a new invader Israel).

After this, in 1948, the new state of Israel was declared and the Arab-Israeli war took place, ending with the Israeli victory and what the Palestinians call the "Nakba", the expulsion of more than 700,000 Palestinians from their homes and the occupation of Israel from most of the Territory in Palestine.

To this day it is estimated that there are some 5,900,000 Palestinian refugees who have been expelled from their homes and if you see the lines drawn in resolution 181 and what is today Israel you will understand with perspective why there are almost 6 million Palestinians outside... and where 5 million people now live between what they call the Gaza Strip and the West Bank.
Taking into account the events from a historical point of view (you can all see the data) I ask you:

Do you think that the almost 30,000 Palestinians killed in this massacre in Israel are terrorists or something similar? (It is estimated that more than half are children and women).

And yes, we are all disgusted by the miserable and inhuman action that Hamas did! But do the Palestinian population, occupied, expelled and cornered for more than 75 years illegally by Israel, deserve this punishment? (It is estimated that there are about 50,000 Hamas members) The difference in the war is 1,500 dead on the Israeli side, 30,000 on the Palestinian side.

Do you think Israel's fight against "Palestine" is a fair fight?

Do you think it is normal that, having the deeds to your house in your name, they throw you out of your home, to demolish it and make houses for settlers?

This is an illegal occupation by Israel and if it were not for the support of the USA and its veto power in the UN this situation would not be what it is.

Israel is carrying out systematic ethnic cleansing for decades against the Palestinian population, this is considered genocide, it is not necessary to kill them all, if that were the case, the Jews would not be here.

It saddens me to see that after the barbarism committed against the Jews by the Nazis and after hundreds of years of expulsion and mistreatment of them, they have become the same thing from which they have historically fled.

You defend the indefensible...

Two nice and easy statements for you. there are two sides so you decide.

1.One side openly admits it wants to kill all peoples of a nation, wiping it off the face of the Earth. And will keep on doing so.

2. One side wants to kill all the aggressors attacking them (please note aggressors not any civilians) Thereby achieving a form of peace.

Now you decide which side is which. Clue:- no 1 is not Israel.

a reply to: crayzeed

You could add a third, even kinder option that doesn't involve killing each other:

3. World rules and treaties on human rights and territorial boundaries are accepted and two states are created.

Clue: It's Israel who has been violating international treaties for decades.

a reply to: HopeForTheFuture
So your all for the New World Order then, because that is what you are asking. Israel is a country in its own right and no body has any right to dictate any terms to them good or bad. Because what Israel does does not affect any other country, not America, not the UK, not South Africa etc. etc. etc. And don't say Palestine as that was not and is not a country it is a part of Israel. The kinder option has already been put on the table, Hamas give up all their arms and sit at a peace table. But THEY do not want to do that do they?

originally posted by: HopeForTheFuture
Clue: It's Israel who has been violating international treaties for decades.

I guess you missed that whole Oct 7 terrorist attack in which the 'palestinians' and Hamas mass murdered 1200 people, mass raped men and women, sexually mutilated people and corpses, burned families alive, and kidnapped 240 people in order to torture, rape, and murder them ... all while calling for the destruction of the sovereign nation of Israel and the genocide of 6 million Jews living there, and promising to make that happen.

That's 'violating' a few laws.

a reply to: FlyersFan

so besides oct 7th, is there any other date you can think of that may be a reason for all the aggresion from isreal prior to that? or does oct 7th erase history, is that like a new mandela effect?

So ignorant