Are you a BAMN never Trumper? And is that a bad thing?

a reply to: Degradation33

Closing the boarder is not Theocratic. Going after states abortion and LGBT laws are. A national abortion ban at 15 weeks is theocratic.

Is it possible for someone to believe abortion is wrong and also not believe in God? While for arguments sake I could agree that abortion is pushed by people who believe in God but that doesn't necessarily translate in the agreement of it.

Personal responsibility is also not a Christian Nationalist idea alone.


Yet, to speak to the greater implication of your postings, that being a very hard pendulum swing, it's possible.


I am not religious, yet I do find much common ground with the religious right where it comes to responsibility and overreaching government. None of them that I know, here or in person, seek to make me believe nor have promoted a Christian Nationalistic nation.

Anecdotal yes, but from a perspective clearly defined.

Wasn't there a thread on here?

TRUMP Could Be Our Modern Day MOSES - The Similarities are Striking.


Not sure how to link to it on my rubbish phone.

a reply to: RazorV66

Fearful of the social pendulum. Not him, his inspired movement, and it's retaliation elements. He is effectively a modern prophet trying stop the dechristianization pushed by woke culture. He is "The Savior". He has that JUNGIAN ARCHETYPAL ROLE, or the trickster depending who you ask. And we are conditioned towards these archetypal narratives on the unconscious level.

He is a fixture against social change towards unwanted values. With him comes revenge. Beyond just restoring where it was before, but doing a few new things to really stick it in.

originally posted by: Degradation33
a reply to: RazorV66

Fearful of the social pendulum. Not him, his inspired movement, and it's retaliation elements. He is effectively a modern prophet trying stop the dechristianization of woke culture. He is "The Savior". He has that JUNGIAN ARCHETYPAL ROLE. And we are conditioned towards these archetypal narratives on the unconscious level.

He is a fixture against social change towards unwanted values. With him comes revenge. Beyond just restoring where it was before, but doing a few new things to really stick it in.

What's wrong with revenge?

Especially when you've been wronged.

There are some evil, shady people on both sides of the aisle that want us as sheep.

I'd love to see their balls in a wringer.

a reply to: JinMI

It's never mutually inclusive to all.

There's pro-life atheists, pro-choice Christians, but in the broadest sense of the overall flow of things, I see a religious reclamation movement piggybacking Trump.

Not his administrative governance goals, but what becomes possible after Joe limps to a total blowout in November. This is now as assured as Trump in Feb 2020, pre-covid. Beyond the house gaining seats, the Senate is VERY unlikely to hold it's majority.

It's going to swing hard into Trump + House + Senate + Supreme Court.

So yeah, f*ck me all to hell for thinking that eventuality won't be capitalized on after 4 years of Woke Biden with payback.

a reply to: Degradation33

I fully admit that I am a Trump supporter, but I also understand some of the points you make and can understand some of the fear that you and others feel. Just as some of the really crazy leftist extremists latch on to leftist figureheads and coop their platform, there are some really crazy rightwing extremists that have latched on to Trump.
People on the right who are truly honest with themselves and true to what they claim to believe should be horrified by some of the things that have been proposed in red states as a pushback against the equally insane things that the left has gotten up to. Trump would do himself a monumental favor by actively distancing himself from those extremists that have latched onto him.

a reply to: Degradation33

There's prolife atheists, prochoice Christians, but in the broadest sense of the overall flow of things, I see a religious reclamation movement piggybacking Trump.

You're losing me here Deg. Outside of a few crackpots, to use Trump as your religious example would be silly by any metric.

It's going to swing hard into Trump + House + Senate + Supreme Court.

Which would, and I think we agree, would be a reaction, not necessarily a destination. The difference is pretty crucial. The reasoning behind that is because for almost 10 years, myself and others have made clear indication that all the media against Trump, all the institutions, all the lies, all the weaponization of justice and upholding of injustice will one day swing back.

And that they'd be lucky if there was anyone left to stand in their defense.

That, I can certainly find common ground on in scope.


I just think that it being because of Christian Nationalism is abit of a stretch. But, I could certainly be wrong.

The worst thing about the Trump years was the inability to go a single day without being assailed by hearing his name multiple times over from very conceivable angle.

Aside from that nuscience I have no complaints.

a reply to: Degradation33

Do you happen to know if there's more (D) Christians than (R) Christians? I think there's more (D)s 😀

a reply to: GENERAL EYES

But has it stopped? He's quite literally still front page news on all of the major outlets every single day. The "nuisance" remains front and center - why? I suspect fear motivates most of them. That and ratings.

cnn.com
msnbc.com
abcnews.com
politico.com
cbsnews.com
foxnews.com


Every

Single

Day

Bamn Biden has a better ring to it.

a reply to: underpass61

I stopped reading the MSM about the same time Biden took over. The only place I hear about Trump these days is here on-site.

It's still somewhat aggressive, but no where as bad as it used to be.

a reply to: JinMI

Science is trying to replace faith as an operative vehicle. Like when constitutional democracy replaced monarchy. People are moving away from devout religious practice and into agnostic observance. The left represents a push away from Christian morality. The woke is godlessness.

He fills the necessary role to stop that. I've read enough theories to know the Democrats have been explicitly working with Satan since Obama. Republicans good, democrats evil.

It is that mindset he captures with his supporters.

Once it hits 30% popularity you can use it in a valid argument.

You can find the answer in generalizations:

Like, find a democrat that thinks:

"Armageddon is real and the antichrist is taking over using woke ideology, globalist agenda, but we can stop our country from being changed to a godless Marxist globalist society."

And find a Trump supporter who agrees. Everything else is window dressing to the underlying aeonic issues. The move away from religion as a social control mechanism.

Underneath the politics of this all really is a struggle for how we will now be indoctrinated. The left represents a change to a different way of social thinking, a one world way of thinking that forces the redefinition of genders. Trump is fixed to stop that.

a reply to: Degradation33

You can't use science when dealing with leftists.

Using science to illustrate that there are only two genders.
Using science to disprove the global climate change.
Using science to show that an unborn human is actually human.

They have a belief system that defies reality.

a reply to: Degradation33

Science is trying to replace faith as an operative vehicle. Like when constitutional democracy replaced monarchy. People are moving away from devout religious practice and into agnostic observance. The left represents a push away from Christian morality. The woke is godlessness.

Then why on Earth are you concerned with Christian Nationalism?

a reply to: DBCowboy

Well then, so does mine on the issues I side with them on.

Don't care on Trans issues. Go Lady Gaga universe! But don't expect everyone to totally placate you.

Climate change is something I really want to be against, but can't find another geological cause for the temp variance. We did something starting around the late 60s to actually start falling outside expected rates.

The irony would be our trying to stop climate change actually caused most of the warming. There's an S02 study that makes that argument.

My states rights compromise is tenuous. It's very close to morphing into my mother and becoming every woman's inalienable federal right to decide what valuable life is at any point until viability.

But those are this big issues. And two of those often find a majority of religious support. The Climate change one is not directly applicable.

My hope, with your upcoming takeover, is you keep it focused on the border and reducing government spending. No 15 week bans. No going after Obergefel v. Hedges. Stick to what's doesn't infringe on me and I won't care.

The country has had 4 years to reassess, and it appears they have. Wish you luck with you revenge administration. Go after Joe's EO's, take it back, don't piss me off by trampling on me.

a reply to: JinMI

I appreciated the attempted LGBT normalization if you hadn't noticed. Christian nationalism kinda pissed on that from the start. Always been against the change I like.

Problem was it was just turning kids into different types of bullies, and it was destined to fail for the same reasons. It didn't allow dissent. But I appreciated the attempt. It got too crazy in elementary schools, to indoctrinate them to woke values too young, which led to the revolt by mostly Christian parents. And the candidates we see today and the platforms they hold.

a reply to: Degradation33

I don't care what or whom an adult sleeps with.

Just leave kids alone on that issue.

Climate change? The science is bad, the data is skewed.

Abortion? I believe that an unborn human being is a human being, just unborn.

We shouldn't be killing them.

As for the adult LGBLT+ (with mayo) community?

Who cares.

If their rights are being infringed, then call me, but if they want privileges just because they sleep with someone, then *yawn*

a reply to: frogs453

what statute are they being charged under? I didn't catch that.

originally posted by: Degradation33
a reply to: RazorV66

Fearful of the social pendulum. Not him, his inspired movement, and it's retaliation elements. He is effectively a modern prophet trying stop the dechristianization pushed by woke culture. He is "The Savior". He has that JUNGIAN ARCHETYPAL ROLE, or the trickster depending who you ask. And we are conditioned towards these archetypal narratives on the unconscious level.

He is a fixture against social change towards unwanted values. With him comes revenge. Beyond just restoring where it was before, but doing a few new things to really stick it in.

it's like you know, but you can't help yourself.

Newton's third law. For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. Every time you try to denigrate him and us by claiming we all worship him or something equally stupid, you create the divide deeper, causing people to defend him more and more. The left made Donald Trump. He is the result of your rhetoric. The MSM couldn't get enough of him, making fun of him, laughing. Well, they laughed him into the #ing white house. And rather than learn from it, you double down on the stupid. By the time you all learn this, Trump will have been dead for years. Pay attention sometimes.

a reply to: Degradation33

I appreciated the attempted LGBT normalization if you hadn't noticed. Christian nationalism kinda pissed on that from the start. Always been against the change I like.

I'm fairly certain you'll never condone Christian Nationalism. That's not the argument though. The argument is that in response to the socialist/marxist revolution going on, that the response will be Christian Nationalism. But you keep posting reasons why that will not be the case.