So this is what Hamas considers 'freedom fighting' ...

originally posted by: Xtrozero
I didn't claim a thing BTW...

Yes of course, you did nothing, you only wrote a passive aggressive reply about how people don't want proof and they are after something else What were you even trying to say there?

originally posted by: Xtrozero
I don't remember anyone suggesting they cooked babies, but they killed everyone they could, would you agree?

No, I don't agree. Why are you ignoring existence of hostages in this war

originally posted by: Xtrozero
They also by tradition rape at will, and once again they would when they could...

If this is true where are the hundreds of raped israeli women? Hamas must have raped them all, since this is their "tradition" as you claim. So where are they Where are the proofs? Surely atleast one israeli doctor must have a sperm sample that non israeli doctors can verify to make sure it is not from some random person in israel or they are not fake?

originally posted by: Xtrozero
What are my claims?

Whose claims are you supporting with your posts? And what are those claims? Seems like you forgot, maybe go read them again. Also you just claimed "rape is their tradition". Care to back up that claim with some proofs? I wonder how are you going to do it considering the lack of hundreds of "raped" israelis in hamas's hands.

a reply to: NanomachinesSon
ALmost all of the vids HAMAS posted have been scrubbed from the net so its hard to prove anything by video now. WHy? because youtube is owned by Arabs and they remove stuff that justifies Israels actions.

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Yeah ... 'freedom fighting' ....

Eyewitness Account from October 7 Cleaning Crew

Many needed to have water poured on them because they were still burning 12 hours after because of the fuel they used to set them on fire.

‘Their bodies were soaking with this fuel that [caused them to burn for a long time].’

Hamas didn’t just use fire as a weapon of war against partygoers at the festival. Sexual violence was used to humiliate the victims at the site, many of whom were young women.

He said: 'When I go back to the memories, I remember lots of bodies were mutilated to pieces.

‘Organs were separated from their bodies, women had been shot in their very private areas, the upper parts of their legs, their heads.

‘Women were undressed and then they were shot.

‘A few bodies that were hit by rocks in a very barbaric way, in a way that crushed the skull.

‘I saw [stab wounds] in very specific areas on women, around their genitals.

wrong thread

CBS News - Witnesses and Evidence Show Sexual Violence on Oct 7 Terror Attack

"Outside two cars, there was also two young ladies, naked from the waist down," Shmael said. "One of the victims was gunshot down in the lower part of her body."

Shmael said there was "definitely" a difference between how the bodies of the male and female victims were found. "What they did to these ladies from the waist down, it's not only rape," Shmael said.

A supervisor with the Israeli search and recovery team in charge of collecting the bodies showed CBS News some of the injuries he saw and documented, including women whose bodies had lacerations, stabbings and gunshots to their genital area.

"Sometimes women were shot in the genitals," Mendes said. "They were shot in the breast. And we saw, a lot of women came in, sometimes just in underwear. The underwear was very bloody."

"The one on the floor, her legs are wide open," the medic said. "And she was shot at the back side of her head, and her pants are pulled down and there's a pile of semen on the lower part of her back."

a reply to: FlyersFan

Im sorry but all HAMAS/Gazan males should be rounded up and eliminated in gaza. The only way to break the cyccle is eliminating the males who perpetuate it.

a reply to: FlyersFan

March 5th 2024

“United Nations group finds Hamas committed sexual violence on Oct. 7“

A United Nations special group focused on sexual violence in conflict found “clear and convincing information” that Hamas, recognized as a terrorist organization by the U.S. government, committed rape and sexualized torture during an Oct. 7 attack on southern Israel.

UN Special Representative of the Secretary-General on Sexual Violence in Conflict, Pramila Patten, led a team to Israel and the West Bank from late January to Feb. 14 to investigate claims that Hamas committed sexual violence on Oct. 7.

thehill.com...

So it isn’t just a bunch of “lying Jews” claiming this anymore. Interesting.

a reply to: NorthOS


A good moment to point out why we need a ceasefire, innit? Unless you think fighting Hamas with systematic rape and sexual violence was a central element in this campaign of terror, of course.

It's an interesting thing with projections, one might even say this thread didn't age very well. Why is it we always hear about misconduct from Hamas, but never about the systematic abuse we keep supporting with our own tax monies? At which point will our most esteemed members try to explain, that every Palestinian woman deserved to be raped "cuz 7th Oct."?

A United Nations human rights panel has called for an independent investigation into reports that Palestinian women and girls have been sexually abused by Israeli soldiers.

In a collective statement on Monday, the seven experts said they were "distressed" by reports that male Israel Defense Forces (IDF) officers had raped, assaulted, and strip-searched female prisoners in Gaza.

UN experts speak out about sexual assault and mistreatment of Palestinian women and girls by IDF

a reply to: PeelingOnions

From your linked article…

More than 29,000 Palestinians have been killed in Gaza since the start of the Hamas-Israel war, according to Gaza's health ministry, which claims that most of that number were women and children

Monday's statement was issued by Reem Alsalem, the UN special reporteur on violence against women and girls, and Francesca Albanese, the special rapporteur on human rights in Palestine, alongside the UN working group on discrimination against women and girls.
Special rapporteurs are not UN staff members and speak in an individual capacity, but they are appointed by the international body's Human Rights Council and their statements carry global influence.

So according to Palestinians.

My point was that the Israeli‘s were called liars until the UN did an investigation.

That’s now where the Palestinian claim stands.

Bring on the investigation.

Are you saying that we are picking on Hamas?

Hamas 'freedom fighters' .... taking innocent people hostage ... routinely beating them and raping them.

Israeli Hostage Recalls Sexual and Physical Abuse by Hamas Captors

An Israeli lawyer taken hostage by Hamas was routinely beaten and sexually assaulted by her captors during her 55 days in captivity, a bombshell report revealed.

Amit Soussana, 40, is the first Israeli hostage to publicly speak about the abuse she suffered, which started just days after she was taken prisoner in Hamas’ deadly Oct. 7 attack and invasion of Israel.

originally posted by: NorthOS

My point was that the Israeli‘s were called liars until the UN did an investigation.

Wanna' talk about liars ... the 'palestinians' and Al Jazeera and their fake IDF rape story.

Al Jazeera took down their fake story about IDF raping 'palestinian' women.

Al Jazeera Report Alleging IDF Rapes Retracted

On Sunday morning, Al Jazeera quoted a woman named Jamila al-Hissi, said to have been trapped in the hospital for six days, as saying that Israeli soldiers there had “raped women, kidnapped women, executed women, and pulled dead bodies from under the rubble to unleash their dogs on them.”

In his retraction, Abu Hilalah wrote on X that al-Hissi later “justified her exaggeration and incorrect talk by saying that the goal was to arouse the nation’s fervor and brotherhood.”

Al Jazeera Deletes Fake IDF Rape Story

Al Jazeera Retracts Unsubstantiated IDF Rape Allegations

originally posted by: NorthOS
a reply to: PeelingOnions

From your linked article…

More than 29,000 Palestinians have been killed in Gaza since the start of the Hamas-Israel war, according to Gaza's health ministry, which claims that most of that number were women and children

Monday's statement was issued by Reem Alsalem, the UN special reporteur on violence against women and girls, and Francesca Albanese, the special rapporteur on human rights in Palestine, alongside the UN working group on discrimination against women and girls.
Special rapporteurs are not UN staff members and speak in an individual capacity, but they are appointed by the international body's Human Rights Council and their statements carry global influence.

So according to Palestinians.

My point was that the Israeli‘s were called liars until the UN did an investigation.

That’s now where the Palestinian claim stands.

Bring on the investigation.

Are you saying that we are picking on Hamas?

Well. It's what we're stuck with since most people with different opinions got banned for mocking this proliferation of one-sided narratives. Let's try not to disturb this ghoulsih peace now, will we?

Even Al Jazeera gets crap for upholding certain standarts in reporting. But at the same time we're supposed to suck up every statement from the Israeli PR department as if it was the literal Gospel, that helps with ignoring the civilian targets in this genocidal campaign.

a reply to: FlyersFan

More disturbingly, this is what a large segment of people in the West who call themselves "liberals" or "progressives" consider freedom fighting.

Mind you, these same people were absolutely livid if captured terrorists were mistreated in the slightest during the War on Terror.

About 100 rabbis and other figures who've been accused, charged or convicted of sexual abuse have already found refuge in Israel, advocates’ group says
Israeli source

Israel becoming 'safe haven for paedophiles' with laws that allow any Jews to legally return, activists claim
independentista source

Israeli Court Rules Convict Who Ran International Child Porn Ring ‘Safe’ To Practice As Pediatrician
Conse nsual pedophilia in Israel

What do you think of these other rapists and pedophiles in Israel?

The Intercept: New York Times Exposé Lacks Evidence to Claim Hamas Weaponized Sexual Violence Oct. 7

Claims of Israeli sexual assault of Palestinian women are credible, UN panel says
Experts report evidence of rape, sexual humiliation and threats of rape against girls and women

Do we condemn both sides? Or as always some radicals will continue to point only to one side?

Too many things are discrediting one party's testimonies.

My executed Israeli children story was untrue, admits ZAKA's Yossi Landau

The truth is like water, not even the mountains are able to stop it, it may be hidden for a while, but it always comes to light.

a reply to: HopeForTheFuture

It’s no worse than say…..France.
Just ask Polanski.

a reply to: Vermilion

Yes, Roman Polanski, French-Polish film director, producer, screenwriter and actor is also of Jewish origin. It seems like they have a sick obsession. TRUE?

What I didn't understand very well is if you were trying to justify some pedophiles against other, or if you didn't know that Roman Polanski was also Jewish and the # you threw at the fan jumped in your face

originally posted by: HopeForTheFuture
a reply to: Vermilion

Yes, Roman Polanski, French-Polish film director, producer, screenwriter and actor is also of Jewish origin. It seems like they have a sick obsession. TRUE?

What I didn't understand very well is if you were trying to justify some pedophiles against other, or if you didn't know that Roman Polanski was also Jewish and the # you threw at the fan jumped in your face

He is Jewish, that’s why I chose him in particular.
Why didn’t he go to Israel?
Is Diddy Jewish too?

a reply to: Vermilion

It’s no worse than say…..France.

You were talking about France, I didn't hear news that France harbors pedophiles or pedophiles, in civilized countries they are fought against. In your country are there pedophiles or rapists and do they also welcome them? Because in Israel it seems that it welcomes its own with open arms.