Being Banned From A States Ballot

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: JinMI

Except that wasn't Trump's plan. He wanted Pence to reject the duly selected elector slates and accept the fake elector slates he had sent to Congress.

Do you believe that was within Pence's authority?

It was Pences call and only Pences call.
It is the sole authority as VP to count the electoral votes.
It was said within the Trump camp he was going to accept both sets of electors from the contested States and send it back to the States Legislatures to figure it out giving time for investigation.
I think he had the ability to delay for 2 weeks before resuming the count.

But then Pelosi got Pence in the rat tunnels and convinced him to go with her insurrection.
But she got tricked and stupid by leaving her laptop that had the Jan.6 plans and preparations and all the other riots she had planned and executed the year leadup to the election.
The Space Force was seen running out of the building with it.
She stole the election but lost the evidence that was to convict her of Seditious conspiracy.
And when they came out of the tunnels Pence went back on his word and had flipped.

Have you noticed how powerful and popular Pence and Pelosi are nowadays?

This year it all comes out.
It was staged for this time.
The court cases against Trump are to enter into evidence the election fraud for all the world to see.
Expose the corrupt legal system for all the world to see.
Sometimes you cannot just tell the people.
You have to show them.

Look how far we have fallen.
4 years ago I was saying,
"You cannot censor the POTUS and not have consequences.
Grave consequences.

They think they got away with it.
@jack ain't coming back.

LOL


Keep a populist president off the ballot??



Blowout landslide coming our way, not a doubt.
Look at how ridiculous our political arguments are now.
Heh.
There is a huge awakening being setup here.
Can you feel it?
I most certainly can.
This is my prediction.
If Trump is reinstated before the election it will be because they had to because this year has so many events coming they had to FastTrack his reinstated Presidency to immediately fill the leadership void.
The only thing I can think of why this will be delayed is because they might have to blame the currency, stock market crypto, food crash on Biden.

It is inevitable you know!!!

I have anecdote after anecdote how the black people want Trump back.
Not someone other than Biden, another dem besides him.
They want Trump back.

I cannot believe how popular Trump has become.
I know for an absolute fact that the tide turned when "grab them by the pussy" was pushed.
And still is, like it is bad or something, rofl.

But every black person saw Trump as an alpha male from that point on, man or woman.
They all go it.
They knew what Trump meant when he said it.
They were not offended.
It offends them and everyone else censoring him and taking him off ballots.

Absolute landslide blowout coming.
How do you guys not realize how bad this looks to everyone that is not a far left liberal?
There ain't no way you can steal enough votes at this rate.

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: JinMI

So you believe that Pence had the authority to unilaterally overturn the will of voters by throwing out duly selected electors, pursuant to the Electoral Count Act, but the SOS of Maine doesn't have the authority to unilaterally remove someone from the ballot even though that power is enshrined in Maine's constitution?

In the US Constitution only the State Legislatures prepare, operate, manage, investigate federal elections.
I do not believe a State can override the USC.
Secretary of State is not given that authority. Neither are the courts.
Let's expose it all.
What a mess our elections have become.

Who's on 1st?
No, who's on 2nd?
Pence is on 1st.
Pelosis on 3rd
Who's on 2nd?
Yes

All that a U.S. citizen can really do is punish a state financially for the actions they take that go against our own scruples, whatever they may be.

I used to do a lot of vacationing in Maine. Never again.
I used to travel to Denver, Golden and the ski areas in Colorado. Never again.

a reply to: FarmerSimulation

Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: elevatedone

Holy crap you decided to be a part of the community.

Even if a person is banned from appearing on a ballot, could you still write them in? Could they win by write in votes?

No. If a candidate is ineligible, then even a write in cannot be counted.

Unfortunately a lot of states don’t recognize write ins regardless which I feel is part of the reason we’re here. How are we supposed to take away the power for the establishments if there’s not a mechanism to circumvent them?

Even though I don’t want Trump or Biden to be president, I don’t think Trump should be removed from any ballots. If they don’t want him to be president, people need to offer someone viable to run against him. If they did, I honestly think the viable candidate would win and there wouldn’t be any issue.

Removing him from ballots just vindicates the notion things are rigged and sets the stage for more unrest, which they’ll blame on Trump and then we’ll have a societal feedback loop instead of doing things like, I don’t know, constructive policies so we can at least get the economy under control and have some semblance of cohesion.

a reply to: elevatedone

(DISCLAIMER: THIS POST IS LONG AND CONTAINS SEVERAL DIFFERENT SUBJECTS. LET ME KNOW IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO CLARIFY. THANKS FOR YOUR INPUT AND FOR BEARING WITH ME.)

AHEM. Haha where to begin, where to begin...

Frankly, Socrates was absolutely correct in saying that orators are liars. Politics is oration, of course.

I find it increasingly difficult to pretend that I'm taking any of what's happening seriously at all. I have a side--it's called telling the truth. While I always do my civic duty and vote, I would like to just remind everyone that all of what is happening is a load of B.S.

It always has been, but TPTB stopped trying to pretend and it's all just a big mess.

That said, I'm happy to be an American and very glad I live in the US right now, during the various global events that are happening at the moment.

Lastly, I think it's funny that people want to block Trump. It's actually disturbing that people are angered by him when he's literally hilarious. I watched the January 6th speech and event live and he didn't say anything bad at all. He didn't even know people were mobbing the capitol. In fact, he called for peaceful interactions and ended his speech by talking about God. I can't wait to see what happens to him--if they throw the book at him, they're going to set dangerous precedence. While I know the legal system is jacked and corrupt (for instance, during criminal cases it's always a good idea to get the best lawyer who is also friends with the DA and prosecution. All sides are usually good friends, so it'd be silly to not take advantage of their alliance. On the other hand, when people are uninformed and go with the public representatives, they most always lose their case, since logically a court-appointed lawyer gets paid peanuts and thus doesn't do a good job.

So TLDR, the judicial system is irrevocably messed up anyway, but if they continue to pretend that Trump called for violence and insurrection, they'll be quite literally blatantly lying and taking advantage of the fact that most people were at work on January 6th and didn't watch the whole thing on live television before the mainstream media got their grubby paws into their editing software.

I actually correctly predicted that Trump would win in 2016. Though it's going to sound crazy as heck, my mom and I got a vision when he announced that he was running and we both saw him getting sworn in. Not even Krauthammer thought he would win, back then. I knew it the whole time. So it's not like I'm a MAGA person (although I do think Trump is charismatic and funny and I love how angry he made everyone), I just knew he would win the first time and the vision that I had ended up being the EXACT scene that played out when he got sworn into office in 2016. My point being, I'm not saying he's going to win this time frankly, I'd rather he not win (Maybe I'm just overthinking it, but I think he'd die WAY, WAY, sooner due to all of the B.S. from the politicians on both sides of the aisle (ie. both parties are in line with the new world order, and they cooperate thusly. Hence why they absolutely hate Trump--he doesn't lie and always says whatever is on his mind and does the literal opposite of the career politicians in Washington and thereby messes with the status quo, so to speak).

Even still, when he was president, Trump made us a lot of money and he successfully ended our troops' stint in the middle east. If for no other reason, I think that dropping the MOAB and ending the conflict is more than Obama or Biden did. Heck, under Obama, our troops were dying like crazy and Obama made it impossible for our army to make a surprise attack...



Well, now that you probably think I'm insane or just super weird, I'm interested in anyone else who agrees with what I'm saying.


I want to know if other people are getting annoyed with how stupid all of this is.



Please help me not feel so alone. I can't exactly talk about this with my peers--they are politically illiterate and believe whatever the television tells them to Haha I'm just glad I keep to myself. Everyone seems so depressed and angry lately, especially those individuals who seem to believe in the veracity of whatever is going on with politics in any country.

I've studied comparative and domestic politics and I'm comfortable asserting that all forms of governance rely on perpetuating falsehoods and strive to control norms and mores in society via GroupThink (ie mob psychology).

No wonder everyone seems so unhappy. It must be awful believing lies.

Let me know your thoughts. Keep it civil, though. I'm not going to entertain anyone wanting to argue about "ORANGE MAN BAD".

Orange man sooo sooo bad. Orange man make me mad, he so bad!

Trump didn't even do anything bad. Yeah, he cheated on his first wife and yeah he slept around a lot and was always in tabloids or being talked about on E! and TMZ etc, but if Trump is bad I think people should start looking at Leonardo Di Caprio and other potentially sexually deviant Hollywood people.

I'm sure there are lots of them. It's pretty normal for famous rich people to sleep around.

I personally think sleeping around is totally gross, but hey, not my life not my problem.

Lastly: You do you, but don't be surprised when it bites you in the rear end. It is what it is.



But I am glad that I don't have to deal with having to play nice-nice with my peers who have gone nutty from drinking the Kool-Aid.

However, I really do need some input/reassurance or something because I find myself getting irritated with random strangers on facebook due to their lack of ability to use logic and reason. People are so lazy and it annoys me.

I can understand why eugenicists feel the way they do. xD

..But I love Jesus! So I am on the love one another team. It's hard, though, sometimes. I hate that I find it fun to call people out for being intellectually lazy, including people who think that they're educated when they're actually just brainwashed.

I'm a nice person, but I am an only child and enjoy being an A-hole. I know that it's not the right thing to do, but I can't help but throw in a snarky or sardonic attitude when I feel like I'm being forced to witness utter stupidity from people I know and from people who are total strangers.

I know I'm not explaining what I do well, but just imagine someone doing pearls before swine for the sole purpose of making sure that the correct answer is there, in case someone who isn't a moron comes along and reads it. Like, am I just supposed to feel okay with ignoring it and not doing anything when not saying the right answer could potentially result in perpetuating ignorance.

I dunno. I don't do it all the time, and when I do chat to strangers it's because I'm bored and I'm currently not working since I have an infant, but I'd like to learn the best practice for how to deal with the sweaty and idiotic masses.

What's the best and most succinct way to help deny ignorance in this situation? And I'm sorry for being so confusing with my verbiage, but I'm working on my perspective of the matter and trying to employ emotional intelligence (and succeeding for the most part in having empathy, but still struggling with my tendency to feel ire. I feel like I'm a less-depressed and Christian version of Dr. Terence McKenna. I'm starting to sound like him, too.



God bless

originally posted by: IgorMartinez
So then your position is that this was a legitimate protest of the election result it sounds like. Do you have any evidence to support your position?

It was a protest..period. That protest turned somewhat violent and people entered the capital. Once inside the capital, the mood changed back to being more observers of what was happening, and then people left.

At what point did the insurrection happen? The vote was delayed a few hours and was restarted the same day. No one was taken hostage, no demands were made, and no long sit-ins or anything.



Others enter the Capitol. sop not something new...



Here was the insurrection...lol



Seems when others do it is called a protest, and when buildings are burned, people die, and crime is rampant it is called mostly peaceful protest, but when conservatives do it then it is called insurrection.

a reply to: elevatedone

But short answer to your OP you're absolutely correct. It's wrong and sets dangerous and insane precedence. It's really like 1984.

a reply to: Abhorsen

I appreciate your point of view and your post.
I believe your answer is simple.

Run for school board.
We need you active.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: IgorMartinez
So then your position is that this was a legitimate protest of the election result it sounds like. Do you have any evidence to support your position?

It was a protest..period. That protest turned somewhat violent and people entered the capital. Once inside the capital, the mood changed back to being more observers of what was happening, and then people left.

At what point did the insurrection happen? The vote was delayed a few hours and was restarted the same day. No one was taken hostage, no demands were made, and no long sit-ins or anything.

Others enter the Capitol. sop not something new...

Here was the insurrection...lol

Seems when others do it is called a protest, and when buildings are burned, people die, and crime is rampant it is called mostly peaceful protest, but when conservatives do it then it is called insurrection.

They either don’t care or are too stupid to know they have been duped by the con artist Democrats.
There was no insurrection. Period.

originally posted by: Abhorsen
a reply to: elevatedone

But short answer to your OP you're absolutely correct. It's wrong and sets dangerous and insane precedence. It's really like 1984.

The mainstream media needs to have more controls placed on them, because they have more influence than any other entity in America.

a reply to: Xtrozero

At what point did everyone forget that the looters and rioters for BLM and George Floyd resulted in wild amounts of injury, damage, etc. and I'm supposed to care more about some sort of ANTIFA psy-op that happened to screw with Trump? The politicians don't like that he doesn't play their game (ie. be the best liar and use your oration to stick to party lines/sew dissent with the 'opposing' political party when in reality both parties are just playing together and taking turns doing A or B and using the fake discord between politicians to polarize issues, in order to garner interest and sympathy among the populace).

All the world's a stage, after all. And the politicians need to learn how to make this entertaining for those of us who aren't knuckle-draggers.

Otherwise, the Eugenicists are playing a very stupid game. One would think they'd at least try to attempt to appear valid or logical, but alas it appears we live in "Clown World" and nobody cares at all about keeping up appearances when 99% of the population isn't paying attention anyway.

Seriously, it trips me out haha

Sooo...I didn't want to sound like a jerk but you seriously believe that the 'insurrection' wasn't just a planned event made specifically to sew discord among the populace and (poorly and lazily) implicate Trump.

Here's the fact, nobody who likes Trump would ever break into a building. Like, he's this super rich guy who wouldn't break into a building. Dude hasn't even smoked pot or drank alcohol. He's straight-edge and totally not the kind of person who advocates for doing degen nonsense.

I saw the whole thing live on January 6th...it was obvious that it was planned and engineered to look like something bad, but when it played out live it just looked super badly scripted and awkward. It's a terrible shame that that lady died, though. They refused to get her medical attention. I bet you haven't seen the footage--the police literally refuse to render aid and they murder the woman. Go look it up, the video proof of her being left to bleed out and die during the break-in is publicly available.

I would link it, but I think the blood and her death go against T&C (or I'm concerned it might), so go look it up or PM me if you want me to send you the video. I'd be happy to do you a solid and send it in a message if you don't want to go find the video, yourself.

You seem like an otherwise normal and rational person...tell me: Do you really believe that Trump had anything to do with it? You don't really believe that, do you?

It's abundantly clear that others took advantage of the situation and the confusion and Trump's lack of experience to create a play-act for the purpose of discrediting Trump and conservatives.

Before you poo-poo what I'm saying, just think, Trump can't even respond normally during a political debate and instead decided to point out how scripted the debates are supposed to be and how even the audiences are totally scripted and planned.

It's all scripted and planned, my guy.

Trump just isn't that kind of person. He's not sneaky and nefarious, he's loud and brash.

He would have just told people to go channel their inner Count Olaf if he wanted them to riot haha

As if Trump would tell everyone to act like Count Olaf. That sounds so funny. He's not that kind of person and he was happy to challenge the election results in a legal way.

Oh and not saying he was right about the election, but when I tried to cast my vote, I broke the ballot machine in my upper-middle class suburban library. And the election people at the library had an official ballot box I.T. worker that was present. Apparently I wasn't the only one whose paper vote literally broke the machine and destroyed who knows how many votes.

And of course this happened in a place in Wisconsin that is quite conservative. Waukesha county.

Yeah, absolutely no conservative I've ever met or heard of would ever do anything like what the left does when they get P.O.'ed. The left likes to protest and break stuff and loot and act like rude children because the left is made up of younger people on average. Conservatives tend to be older and old people don't go looting and rioting...

And I would rather die than wear what the rioters were wearing. Like, you're telling me people really believe a conservative would wear body paint? We aren't that fun haha

I'm like a boomer--and boomers are absolutely not going rioting. Ew. It sounds so crass.

Yeah, no. Sounds like some weird group pretending to be conservative (like the KKK, for example--another weird non-conservative group that pretends to be conservative despite not adhering to Christian values etc.).

Christians don't form angry violent mobs and we certainly don't break into government buildings for the show of it.

As if.

If anyone who participated actually truly identified as being on the right of the political spectrum, then I'd argue that person would be a victim of their own political illiteracy..

...because here it is, it's simple: Conservatives/Baby boomers and old people would never even join a protest or a march to begin with. They'd do things the NORMAL and LEGAL way and write to their representatives and do their civic duty.

I know I'm probably barking up the wrong tree, but seriously, think about it for a second and I dare you to tell me I'm wrong.

You have to admit something fishy is going on, even if you don't want to say what it is or isn't.

I'm not shy, though. I'm happy to be here and remind everyone that had they watched the live broadcast, they'd be feeling exactly how I'm feeling right now.

And I want company.

If we can't be real and level with each other like this here on ATS, then we are screwed. It's time to stop the wild conspiracies and stop looking at people as enemies when guess what? We are all in this together. We shouldn't be fighting or disagreeing amongst ourselves--we need to do something if we want to stand up to those in power (ie. the Eugenicists, as usual) and refuse to play their stupid game.

So let's stop trying to kid ourselves. Let's be real: It's obvious that what the OP is talking about, and everything else about politics is utterly nonsense and it's clear that those in power have a real lack of a sense of pride in their work and if they're not even going to put forth effort when lying (and come up with a good lie instead of this utterly laughable nonsense) then we shouldn't put forth any effort in believing any politician.

All the politicians are in bed with each other. Just like the UN is in bed with itself. It's all corrupt.

Wake up, pwease

UwU I'm ending this super-cringe senpai! In the event I triggered anyone, I'd like you all to just focus on the fact that I said uwu and senpai.

That concludes Liane's public service announcement for now.

You may now be excused.

Semper Fi, my compatriot!

(I am not a Marine, but I am friends with many of them, including a member of the Swiss Guard). I believe in holding one another accountable and always being loyal. I feel like Semper Fi is a good motto to have, nowadays. (I mean no disrespect in saying it and if I'm not supposed to say it, then sorry, but part of the reason I care so much is due to my friends and family who served our country).

Having integrity is rare, after all. Even moreso presently, given that everyone is so keen on believing lies and falsehoods these days. It's sad.

God bless you

a reply to: WeMustCare

Eh. Why, though? I get my information from peer reviewed studies, formal education, history books, current news and events, but mainly I know that my analysis is good due to my background in comparative politics.

I'm quite good with bloom's taxonomy and occam's razor, but the reason I am quite certain that I'm right is due to my knowledge of western civilization and psychology and science.

After Charles Darwin died, Herbert Spencer tried to champion Social Darwinism via the Eugenics movement, wherein he bastardized Darwin's message and used it to try to justify racism and discrimination against black people, foreigners, and the disabled or deformed.

To this day, eugenics is the easiest way to define what controls governance across the world, especially Western Civilization in the post-modern era.

An even easier word is "evil".

Eugenics is inherently evil because it fails to recognize the beauty in all human beings. Instead, it demonizes certain people or traits or behaviors due to not understanding them or knowing how to make use of them.

So, at the end of the day, what we should all be fighting against is evil--the evil within ourselves and the evil that has placed itself at the top of the food chain, politically.

Mainstream media will continue to exist as a sort of opium for the masses. You've got to admit: It's really useful and super easy to alter for specific situations.

If you or I were in the position of power, why wouldn't we abuse the media if it helped us attain our end goal?

Of course, we'd use any means necessary, since winning is the name of the game.

I mean, if you can be one thing, then you can be efficient, right?

So while I get what you're saying, I don't think that's going to happen since mainstream media is a super useful tool and it reinforces not using one's own brain and not having an opinion if that opinion isn't the 'cool' and 'acceptable' opinion that everyone else has.

You know, I think that a individual's own choice to be lazy by refusing to do proper research and be properly educated is the most influential entity--not just in America--but in the world.

Ignorance is powerful! It's everywhere :/ Alas.

a reply to: Xtrozero

You even say "insurrection lol"

You know subconsciously that this is utter B.S.

That's my hill and I'm dead on it.

I know people aren't stupid. They're just not thinking critically and looking at the facts.

EDIT: Once more I will say, consevatives aren't trying to burn down buildings and riot. Most conservatives are older people and we just aren't as fun as liberals. We don't protest: We join grassroots groups, write to representatives, run for local office, write to lobbyists--TLDR: We do things the legal and correct way because unlike the young and uneducated (well, poorly educated since liberal arts school was fun--thank God I got mine for free--but it would be easy to not pay attention and pass. So it's no wonder a bunch of my 'peers' sound like total morons. They didn't do the work and they only cared about sleeping with people and drinking during college. It's not hard to do the math. They're easy to fool and lie to because they don't even know what they're talking about to begin with.

And that's why the left protests and marches. Because they didn't do the homework and they don't know how to properly do their civic duty and do things the normal way.

As for me, I know the government is full of B.S., but I'd absolutely follow the normal legal process if ever I wanted to accomplish anything.

Protests don't do anything. They're literally just going to end up going badly, as they do. They'll get worse. Not only do they inspire people in dangerous countries to pointlessly protest and get shot by authorities or arrested and sent to re-education camps (--like, as if marching with signs is going to do anything besides make TPTB and people like me laugh and shake our heads in disbelief--In countries like Mexico and India and China, if you march and protest, you're asking for trouble).

Simply put:

1. Protesting does nothing beneficial or positive and only highlights political illiteracy due to participants not choosing to explore the legal route involving grassroots agencies, lobbyists, and local and state representatives.

2. Conservatives typically have more political literacy and those who are to the right on the political spectrum show that literacy by doing their civic duty and submitting their complaint or suggestion to the proper officials.

3. Making protests and riots 'fashionable' is something that those on the left of the political spectrum do, due to their desire to champion virtue signalling (due to their personal insecurity, stemming from a lack of care and a lack of technical knowledge)

Virtue signalling is utterly useless and serves to make people feel better about themselves when they know darn well that they don't actually care.

Anyway. I'm Mexican and grew up facing off-handed remarks about how I'm not dark enough to be Mexican or how I can't be Mexican because I'm so pale/so white. I know how racism feels, and I personally find it disgusting that people on the left want to speak for me. Unless you're Mexican, you don't have any idea how it feels to be Mexican, and there's no way you'll ever know how it feels and that's okay. What's weird is when people want to speak for me or act like I have more of a right to speak than someone else because I'm ethnic.

Basically, I don't know anyone who virtue signals who isn't covering up the fact that they are racist and ignorant. I don't go shouting from the rooftops that I hate racism because I know the human race exists and race is a social construct. As for BLM--black people come from 55 different countries, it's no wonder their socialization isn't working very well and why they distrust the dominant culture and why they distrust members of their own community).

The left tries to pretend they're all accepting and great, but they're actually a bunch of racists who are politically illiterate and rely on their feelings instead of logic. Meanwhile those on the right are logical, but generally lack the ability to interact with the younger generations. At best, those who identify as being on the left of the political spectrum are uncaring at best.

On the right, it's like saying "I care about politics". On the left, it's like saying "I don't care about politics. I only care about the social aspect".
So, it's two sides of the same coin.
The left and the right ends of the political spectrum wouldn't exist without rhetoric and oration.

It's time to accept the fact that the government isn't even trying to do pretend to do their job, anymore.

It's also time to accept the fact that political parties aren't here to help--they're here to make money and for Agenda 21.



I'm done ranting and being annoying, but I hope I'm not the only one who feels really annoyed by what's going on.

Hope you enjoyed me talking to myself

originally posted by: Abhorsen

At what point did everyone forget that the looters and rioters for BLM and George Floyd resulted in wild amounts of injury, damage, etc. and I'm supposed to care more about some sort of ANTIFA psy-op that happened to screw with Trump? The politicians don't like that he doesn't play their game (ie. be the best liar and use your oration to stick to party lines/sew dissent with the 'opposing' political party when in reality both parties are just playing together and taking turns doing A or B and using the fake discord between politicians to polarize issues, in order to garner interest and sympathy among the populace).

The riots started 10 seconds after Trump won. Floyd was just icing on the cake, but ANTIFA, crazy yuppies, and the woke were long into rioting before Floyd happened. The progressive prosecutors were the ones to support it making all they did basically not a crime, and that is why big cities are dying today as businesses leave.

Sooo...I didn't want to sound like a jerk but you seriously believe that the 'insurrection' wasn't just a planned event made specifically to sew discord among the populace and (poorly and lazily) implicate Trump.

What insurrection?

Were there bad actors that most likely instigated the initial break-in, I'm pretty sure that is who started it off. Was it the Proud Boys, nope...Whoever it was, ANTIFA, FBI, liberal activists it sure wasn't MAGA. It looks like some bad actors initiated it then people just followed in and the bad guys left. Then we saw people basically milling around until curfew, end of story.

You seem like an otherwise normal and rational person...tell me: Do you really believe that Trump had anything to do with it? You don't really believe that, do you?

Did you get that from my post? Go back and reread it. Trump didn't cause it and there was no insurrection.

Oh and not saying he was right about the election, but when I tried to cast my vote, I broke the ballot machine in my upper-middle class suburban library. And the election people at the library had an official ballot box I.T. worker that was present. Apparently I wasn't the only one whose paper vote literally broke the machine and destroyed who knows how many votes.

I have written many times about how they could get 82 million votes

I'm like a boomer--and boomers are absolutely not going rioting. Ew. It sounds so crass.

I'm a boomer too in the end side of it..1960

You have to admit something fishy is going on, even if you don't want to say what it is or isn't.

It's all fishy, the liberals were secretly cheering when it happened. They will lie, cheat, and steal knowing that all they want is that initial story to spam the headlines for a few days, and then when proven wrong it is a small print on page 22 correcting it, but they did what they wanted. Do you think they will erase one of Trump's impeachments when the crap hits the fan for Biden? Nope, that is done and if Biden is removed then they also got rid of a useful idiot no longer needed.

I feel like Semper Fi is a good motto to have, nowadays. (I mean no disrespect in saying it and if I'm not supposed to say it, then sorry, but part of the reason I care so much is due to my friends and family who served our country).

I have 40+ years in the military, I don't care if you say it...lol

originally posted by: Abhorsen

You even say "insurrection lol"

So look at the video of the so-called insurrection...lol I was being sarcastic

EDIT: Once more I will say, consevatives aren't trying to burn down buildings and riot. Most conservatives are older people and we just aren't as fun as liberals. We don't protest: We join grassroots groups, write to representatives, run for local office, write to lobbyists--TLDR: We do things the legal and correct way because unlike the young and uneducated (well, poorly educated since liberal arts school was fun--thank God I got mine for free--but it would be easy to not pay attention and pass.

Well, most of us conservatives have jobs with responsibilities...We don't have time to play these stupid woke-type games the left seems to have a ton of time to do.

3. Making protests and riots 'fashionable' is something that those on the left of the political spectrum do, due to their desire to champion virtue signalling (due to their personal insecurity, stemming from a lack of care and a lack of technical knowledge)

For many, it is just an excuse to steal...

The left tries to pretend they're all accepting and great, but they're actually a bunch of racists who are politically illiterate and rely on their feelings instead of logic.

I have said that the person is is a racist thinks everyone else is a racist too, so the ones screaming racism at others do it because of their own issues.

Just like the person that cheats... they think everyone does it, so it's OK to do... People want to make what they do the norm for society to justify what they do.

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: yuppa

The Constitution trumps federal statutes.

Ahem the COTUS IS THE FED STATUTES!!!

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: yuppa

The Constitution trumps federal statutes.

Ahem the COTUS IS THE FED STATUTES!!!

Nope.

The COTUS is the foundational document. It establishes the 3 different branches of government which include the legislative and executive branches. It prescribes how the legislative and executive branches can go about creating Federal Statutes. However, once a statute has been enacted, it can always be challenged on the basis of being unconstitutional. That challenge will then be adjudicated by the third branch of government--the judicial.

Unlike a federal statute, the Constitution can't be challenged on the basis of being unconstitutional. That's why the Constitution trumps federal statutes.

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: elevatedone

Not participating in an insurrection is a requirement to be President.

So, Trump is qualified... so how do you justify him being kept off the Maine ballot?

Ph, and incidentally, he is still on both, since this is being litigated... also, Colorado SoS said that Trump would remain on the ballot.

originally posted by: Abhorsen
a reply to: WeMustCare

Eh. Why, though? I get my information from peer reviewed studies, formal education, history books, current news and events, but mainly I know that my analysis is good due to my background in comparative politics.

Ignorance is powerful! It's everywhere :/ Alas.

+90% of the American public get their news and information from ABC-CBS-NBC-NYTimes-WaPost-MSNBC, etc..