Joe Rogan Uses Drugs & Owns Guns

a reply to: BehindYou

I was a FFL holder for over 20 years .. oh all those big colourful stamps.
Your legal advice would put people behind bars

That explains a lot.

Your stance is based on your profession. I too would go over board and interpret a certain way if it meant my federal license and livelihood would be on the line. There's that "liability" you were mentioning before....

Don't take it personally; I've had a few conversations with LEO family members about things they were certain were either illegal or had more stipulations attached than what were actually present in reality.

In exchange, he told me how to get through certain hurdles in Circuit Court.

Exchange of information is for everyones benefit.

a reply to: BehindYou

Background check for a membership is different than one to rent a gun


You are spinning in an endless circle of bullsnip and you can't get out, just give it up while you're behind. Continuously moving the goalposts does nothing for you either, aside from making yourself look as incompetent as you sound.

a reply to: BehindYou

One would think, as "qualified" as you try to say you are, you would know more about guns and ownership.

Or the simple fact that it is illegal for a range to do a background check on someone renting a firearm.

BTW, the argument of "I did this professionally for X amount of years" after losing an argument for 8 pages makes this look even worse for you

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: BehindYou

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: BehindYou

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: JAGStorm

One can have a CCP without owning a firearm.

Absolutely true . A carry permit isn’t attached to a gun or weapon by registration.
You could use it to carry a knife or throwing star.
Do you really believe Rogan isn’t conceal carrying a pistol ? Come on , just quit with the stance you know has no legs . My OP is spot on right & exposes the hypocrisy as well the foolishness of denying 2A rights to people who use weed .
Hunter is guilty & should receive fair punishment for lying on his 4473 form .
What about Joe Rogan then ?

CAN GUN RANGES LEGALLY RUN BACKGROUND CHECKS?
Gun ranges cannot legally run background checks on individuals who want to use the range or rent a weapon. This is because of a concept called “constructive possession.” As long as the rented weapon stays inside the property, the range is still lawfully in possession of the gun.

If the individual wants to leave the property with the weapon through purchase or long-term rental, the range must then perform a background check. Once the individual goes off the property with the firearm, they are legally in possession, and restrictions are now enforced.

www.actiontarget.com...

According to the link PorkChop supplied, you are incorrect.

There are two gun ranges in my are that require background checks for range use & rentals only once per ID user & are then held on record for a year .

and yet, that link explains why that is illegal. Do you have the name of the gun shop that does this so someone can verify it, or do we just need to take your word for it? (hint, that's sarcasm, we don't take anyone's word for anything here)

If you rent a gun that stays on the premises , there isn’t a background check . If you rent a hunting gun for a weekend there is a background check & many ranges that offer memberships require background checks as part of the agreement.

a reply to: BehindYou

In what world do you live in that a range will rent you a gun that you take off the premises for X amount of days?

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: BehindYou

Background check for a membership is different than one to rent a gun


You are spinning in an endless circle of bullsnip and you can't get out, just give it up while you're behind. Continuously moving the goalposts does nothing for you either, aside from making yourself look as incompetent as you sound.

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: BehindYou

In what world do you live in that a range will rent you a gun that you take off the premises for X amount of days?

Many places rent guns for periods if time .

a reply to: network dude

The man who bought Kyle Rittenhouse an assault-style rifle when he was only 17 has agreed to plead no contest to contributing to the delinquency of a minor, a non-criminal citation, and avoid convictions on the two felonies he’d been facing.

...Dominick Black, 20, was charged in November 2020 with two counts of delivering a dangerous weapon to a minor, resulting in death. ...

Black was 18 when he purchased the rifle for Rittenhouse at a hardware store in Rusk County in May of that year. At 17, Rittenhouse was too young to legally purchase the weapon.

In August 2020, Rittenhouse used the rifle to kill two people and wound a third during protests in Kenosha. In November, a jury found him not guilty, based on his claim of self-defense.

Black was the first prosecution witness at Rittenhouse’s trial, but the status of his own charges were up in the air after Judge Bruce Schroeder agreed to throw out one of the charges against Rittenhouse — that he unlawfully possessed a firearm as a minor. The defense convinced Schroeder that an exception in the law allows 17-year-olds to possess rifles and shotguns, or at least left the law too vague to be enforceable.
man-who-straw-purchased-rifle -for-kyle-rittenhouse-takes-a-plea-deal-avoids-jail

Like I wrote "All it takes is for a judge to throw out charges"
then,
Cop a plea, pay a fine. Pass go. Do not got to jail.

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: BehindYou

One would think, as "qualified" as you try to say you are, you would know more about guns and ownership.

Or the simple fact that it is illegal for a range to do a background check on someone renting a firearm.

BTW, the argument of "I did this professionally for X amount of years" after losing an argument for 8 pages makes this look even worse for you

If you seek membership, they can require any stipulations they want

originally posted by: Moon68
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In Illinois there are many indoor ranges that require membership to use the range & many of those require a criminal background check for membership.

a reply to: BehindYou

I mean you can...just go to Chicago, Detroit, LA, well anywhere really. It CAN and does happen all the time all over the U.S.

Before you flip out about the "law". Yes it's a matter of legality, But laws are broken all the time and the world gets off on technicalities. Also as dothedew has been trying to tell you, but you just want to keep shouting the same thing over and over from your hill there.

a reply to: BehindYou

Requirements for membership is different than one to rent a firearm at any walk in range.

Stop moving goalposts.

a reply to: BehindYou

Again

Requirements for membership is different than one to rent a firearm at any walk in range.

Stop moving goalposts.

a reply to: BehindYou

Give me 2 examples

Name of range
Location
Website

originally posted by: BehindYou

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: BehindYou

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: BehindYou

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: JAGStorm

One can have a CCP without owning a firearm.

Absolutely true . A carry permit isn’t attached to a gun or weapon by registration.
You could use it to carry a knife or throwing star.
Do you really believe Rogan isn’t conceal carrying a pistol ? Come on , just quit with the stance you know has no legs . My OP is spot on right & exposes the hypocrisy as well the foolishness of denying 2A rights to people who use weed .
Hunter is guilty & should receive fair punishment for lying on his 4473 form .
What about Joe Rogan then ?

CAN GUN RANGES LEGALLY RUN BACKGROUND CHECKS?
Gun ranges cannot legally run background checks on individuals who want to use the range or rent a weapon. This is because of a concept called “constructive possession.” As long as the rented weapon stays inside the property, the range is still lawfully in possession of the gun.

If the individual wants to leave the property with the weapon through purchase or long-term rental, the range must then perform a background check. Once the individual goes off the property with the firearm, they are legally in possession, and restrictions are now enforced.

www.actiontarget.com...

According to the link PorkChop supplied, you are incorrect.

There are two gun ranges in my are that require background checks for range use & rentals only once per ID user & are then held on record for a year .

and yet, that link explains why that is illegal. Do you have the name of the gun shop that does this so someone can verify it, or do we just need to take your word for it? (hint, that's sarcasm, we don't take anyone's word for anything here)

If you rent a gun that stays on the premises , there isn’t a background check . If you rent a hunting gun for a weekend there is a background check & many ranges that offer memberships require background checks as part of the agreement.

Yes, but that wasn't the argument. I am only arguing the facts, the strawmen will have to make their own arguments.

originally posted by: BehindYou

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: BehindYou

In what world do you live in that a range will rent you a gun that you take off the premises for X amount of days?

Many places rent guns for periods if time .

can you list one?

a reply to: FullHeathen

I stand corrected. My apologies.

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: BehindYou

In what world do you live in that a range will rent you a gun that you take off the premises for X amount of days?

Private ranges and gun clubs offer club gun rentals to members for hunting as on loan . The members must also pass a criminal background check year after year .
Here is a place that rents hunting rifles rgunsngear.com...

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: BehindYou

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: BehindYou

In what world do you live in that a range will rent you a gun that you take off the premises for X amount of days?

Many places rent guns for periods if time .

can you list one?

rgunsngear.com...