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Joe Rogan Uses Drugs & Owns Guns

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posted on Dec, 12 2023 @ 11:17 AM
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a reply to: BehindYou

Lies

I have been to any number of ranges that rent firearms, you give them your ID to check your age, fill out a liability waiver and you're off to the races.

You really need to do more research before you speak of things you know little about.



posted on Dec, 12 2023 @ 11:18 AM
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a reply to: BehindYou

See last response. Name one range you have been to that tells you they do a background check on you to rent a firearm. And if you are not made aware of the check, it is illegal for them to do so without your consent.

You sound as crazy as the guy a while ago that said Penske and U-Haul do a background check on you when you rent a truck from them.


www.actiontarget.com...#:~:text=Gun%20ranges%20cannot%20legally%20run,in%20possession%20of %20the%20gun.


Gun ranges cannot legally run background checks on individuals who want to use the range or rent a weapon. This is because of a concept called “constructive possession.” As long as the rented weapon stays inside the property, the range is still lawfully in possession of the gun.

edit on 12-12-2023 by PorkChop96 because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 12 2023 @ 11:20 AM
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originally posted by: BehindYou

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: BehindYou

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: BehindYou

Is Rogan a felon?

No?

Possession is not illegal

Are you done yet?
YOU CANT POSSESS ANY GUNS NO MATTER HOW YOU GOT THEM AND BE A DRUG USER !


I didn't find the answer to this with a quick search, but I do know you can go to a gun shop with a range and rent a firearm. Perhaps they must do a background check, but I don't think that's the case. Before you type something in all caps, you should verify it's true. It could make you look foolish at the top of your lungs.
Renting a gun at a gun range requires an ID & there is a criminal check done before you can rent said firearm


is that fact or opinion? if you claim it's fact, a link is needed.



posted on Dec, 12 2023 @ 11:23 AM
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a reply to: network dude

Link provided for you, other guy wont



posted on Dec, 12 2023 @ 11:26 AM
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originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: JAGStorm

One can have a CCP without owning a firearm.
Absolutely true . A carry permit isn’t attached to a gun or weapon by registration.
You could use it to carry a knife or throwing star.
Do you really believe Rogan isn’t conceal carrying a pistol ? Come on , just quit with the stance you know has no legs . My OP is spot on right & exposes the hypocrisy as well the foolishness of denying 2A rights to people who use weed .
Hunter is guilty & should receive fair punishment for lying on his 4473 form .
What about Joe Rogan then ?



posted on Dec, 12 2023 @ 11:27 AM
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a reply to: BehindYou

You have still yet to provide proof for any of your claims.

Show proof Rogan owns guns and we can talk. until then it is all speculation and accusations on your part.



posted on Dec, 12 2023 @ 11:28 AM
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originally posted by: BehindYou

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: network dude

You do not need to fill out a background check to rent a firearm at a range.
You need to provide a valid picture ID & every gun range in America has to do a criminal background check before renting any guns . Where do you come up with these ideas ? [/quote

You

Are

Wrong

Or, you're so full of snip your eyes are brown



posted on Dec, 12 2023 @ 11:30 AM
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originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: BehindYou

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: BehindYou

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: BehindYou

Is Rogan a felon?

No?

Possession is not illegal

Are you done yet?
YOU CANT POSSESS ANY GUNS NO MATTER HOW YOU GOT THEM AND BE A DRUG USER !


I didn't find the answer to this with a quick search, but I do know you can go to a gun shop with a range and rent a firearm. Perhaps they must do a background check, but I don't think that's the case. Before you type something in all caps, you should verify it's true. It could make you look foolish at the top of your lungs.
Renting a gun at a gun range requires an ID & there is a criminal check done before you can rent said firearm


is that fact or opinion? if you claim it's fact, a link is needed.
It depends on state laws . Some don’t run background checks as long as the gun stays in a controlled building. Renting a gun at a range is not ownership or possession of a gun.



posted on Dec, 12 2023 @ 11:31 AM
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originally posted by: BehindYou

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: JAGStorm

One can have a CCP without owning a firearm.
Absolutely true . A carry permit isn’t attached to a gun or weapon by registration.
You could use it to carry a knife or throwing star.
Do you really believe Rogan isn’t conceal carrying a pistol ? Come on , just quit with the stance you know has no legs . My OP is spot on right & exposes the hypocrisy as well the foolishness of denying 2A rights to people who use weed .
Hunter is guilty & should receive fair punishment for lying on his 4473 form .
What about Joe Rogan then ?



CAN GUN RANGES LEGALLY RUN BACKGROUND CHECKS?
Gun ranges cannot legally run background checks on individuals who want to use the range or rent a weapon. This is because of a concept called “constructive possession.” As long as the rented weapon stays inside the property, the range is still lawfully in possession of the gun.

If the individual wants to leave the property with the weapon through purchase or long-term rental, the range must then perform a background check. Once the individual goes off the property with the firearm, they are legally in possession, and restrictions are now enforced.

www.actiontarget.com...

According to the link PorkChop supplied, you are incorrect.



posted on Dec, 12 2023 @ 11:32 AM
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a reply to: BehindYou



Your same logic can be applied to Hunter Biden .

If your goal is to find hypocrisy,
then pick Hunter Biden Case vs Kyle Rittenhouse Case.

Kyle Rittenhouse, the greatest American hero! So great that everything named MLK should be re-named KR.

Facts: Underaged openly carrying a weapon illegally, acquired through a federally prohibited strawman purchase.

All it takes is a judge to drop charges. USA! USA! USA!
edit on 12-12-2023 by FullHeathen because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 12 2023 @ 11:33 AM
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a reply to: BehindYou

this isn't a partisan argument currently, it's strictly fact based. So in light of that, remaining factual seems to be the best way forward. Just my opinion, you can do whatever you like.



posted on Dec, 12 2023 @ 11:34 AM
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originally posted by: FullHeathen
a reply to: BehindYou



Your same logic can be applied to Hunter Biden .

If your goal is to find hypocrisy,
then pick Hunter Biden Case vs Kyle Rittenhouse Case.

Kyle Rittenhouse, the greatest American hero! So great that everything named MLK should be re-named KR.

Facts: Underaged openly carrying a weapon illegally, acquired through an federally prohibited strawman purchase.

All it takes is a judge to drop charges. USA! USA! USA!


I don't think you have all the facts in that case correct.

eta:
giffords.org...

Wisconsin generally prohibits the intentional transfer of any firearm to an individual under age 18.1

The state also generally prohibits the possession of a firearm by any person under age 18.2


giffords.org...

Subject to narrow exceptions, Illinois generally prohibits any person under age 18 from possessing a handgun.1 State law also generally restricts people from knowingly transferring a handgun to any person under age 18.2



edit on 12-12-2023 by network dude because: unless you have more factual facts to offer?



posted on Dec, 12 2023 @ 11:34 AM
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originally posted by: BehindYou

originally posted by: dothedew

originally posted by: BehindYou

originally posted by: dothedew

originally posted by: BehindYou

originally posted by: dothedew

originally posted by: BehindYou

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: BehindYou

Asking for proof is not favoring one over the other.

Hunter, illegally bought a gun, threw it in a dumpster, all while on coc aine. And lied about it on a federal form.

Joe RESPONSIBLY uses guns and smokes pot. But, as far as I am aware, has never lied on a federal form asking him about his drug use.

But continue on with whatever you want trying to excuse a felonious act by the Presidents son....
If Rogan owns guns , then he lied on his federal background check or he has never used drugs ? You tell me ??? I grow tired of your lack of understanding. Have you ever bought a gun ?
Tell me what is asked on that form .
You are gaslighting at this point. The form doesn’t allow drug use & gun ownership as long as you are responsible. It’s a simple yes or no !
Do you use drugs yes or no ?
So in your world there is no proof Rogan uses drugs or owns a gun ? You sound like a progressive lawyer from far left field.


The form asks if you are a user of illegal substances - not if you have used in the past, but a current user. This is also at the time of purchase, not at any given point down the road. There is always wiggle room and interpretation with laws, that's why they are so concise and add so much verbiage and definitions - it's by the letter, not what we think it might mean to us, personally. If it's not explicitly written into the law or code, it is open ended.

If he wasn't an active user at the time of purchase, he's good. Same with the time of obtainment of a CPL. If he purchased firearms from an individual, then BOOM - no federal form to potentially lie about.

Hunter raises some questions however, after posting videos of him actively doing drugs while in possession of firearms. There's usually a plethora of laws that say you can't do that.

If we want to get on the technicalities.
www.atf.gov...
It’s a federal form & not a state form . Weed is illegal under the federal government.
You have zero understanding of federal gun laws.


Ok, I'll just go to the attorneys I work with and say "sorry guys, the last 10 years of knowledge and experience, trials, legal research, meetings, hearings, and advise are out the window. My bad."

I never said it was a state form. I understand that it's illegal under the Federal Laws. I also understand the following:

The form asks if you are a user of illegal substances - not if you have used in the past, but a current user. This is also at the time of purchase, not at any given point down the road. There is always wiggle room and interpretation with laws, that's why they are so concise and add so much verbiage and definitions - it's by the letter, not what we think it might mean to us, personally. If it's not explicitly written into the law or code, it is open ended.

If he wasn't an active user at the time of purchase, he's good. Same with the time of obtainment of a CPL. If he purchased firearms from an individual, then BOOM - no federal form to potentially lie about.


www.sportskeeda.com...
Pay close attention to him talking about getting his concealed carry permit . Weed is illegal both in Texas & at the federal level .
You are just spinning your tires in the mud at this point on this whole subject


What does a conceal carry permit have to do with firearm purchase? What does the ATF questions on a firearm sales record have to do with a permit to carry?

Where does it say in the majority of states, Texas included, anything about current, past, etc., drug use and obtainment of a permit? Fun fact: carry permits and their subsequent requirements are dictated by the state, not the federal government. For example, in Michigan, you can have a 3 year and 1 day old conviction (or pending charge) of driving intoxicated under the influence of "coka-cola" and still get a permit with zero issue. If a 4 year window of drug use qualifying you as a "user" was true, that provision would be different and/or non-existent. People that we have helped at our office and by proxy of others would have been denied right off the rip.

The questions are black and white. The fine print is black and white.

Don't make stuff up as you go along and claim that I'm over here spinning tires. Please and thank you.
No one gets a firearm conceal carry permit to carry guns owned by other people. No one in their right mind would be the owner of a gun and let someone else carry it legally , because if liability issues. You are gaslighting & unable to understand basic gun laws . Is there anymore delusions you want to table ? I will not respond to any further comments from you based on your agenda bias instead of the law .


First, I think you responded to the wrong thing.

On that note, since what you said is wrong like a lot of other things and based on your feelings, I can go into detail. You won't respond anyway apparently, so why not.

Agenda bias and understanding of gun law...... Pot, meet Kettle. You seem familiar. I apologize that a career in law rubs you the wrong way and goes against your mindset, but it is what it is. You've moved those goalposts so many times, I'm having trouble keeping up. Holy crap. Move that goal 10 yards at a time and claim others are gaslighting? I might personally need therapy after this.

A lot of times people don't get concealed permits for the *sole purpose* of carrying someone else's gun; I'll give that to you, although I had to add that emphasis due to people in open carry states and their desires.

Here's the thing, though. People let others borrower firearms. Your feelings on the matter don't set policy or dictate other's actions. Somewhat generally speaking, firearms can be loaned to others. You definitely don't want to loan one to someone you don't trust, don't know, doesn't handle them safely, or anything like that. While criminal liability may be off the table, you can always face civil troubles and lawsuits from families and angry people.



posted on Dec, 12 2023 @ 11:36 AM
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originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: BehindYou

See last response. Name one range you have been to that tells you they do a background check on you to rent a firearm. And if you are not made aware of the check, it is illegal for them to do so without your consent.

You sound as crazy as the guy a while ago that said Penske and U-Haul do a background check on you when you rent a truck from them.


www.actiontarget.com...#:~:text=Gun%20ranges%20cannot%20legally%20run,in%20possession%20of %20the%20gun.


Gun ranges cannot legally run background checks on individuals who want to use the range or rent a weapon. This is because of a concept called “constructive possession.” As long as the rented weapon stays inside the property, the range is still lawfully in possession of the gun.
www.actiontarget.com...



posted on Dec, 12 2023 @ 11:37 AM
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originally posted by: dothedew

originally posted by: BehindYou

originally posted by: dothedew

originally posted by: BehindYou

originally posted by: dothedew

originally posted by: BehindYou

originally posted by: dothedew

originally posted by: BehindYou

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: BehindYou

Asking for proof is not favoring one over the other.

Hunter, illegally bought a gun, threw it in a dumpster, all while on coc aine. And lied about it on a federal form.

Joe RESPONSIBLY uses guns and smokes pot. But, as far as I am aware, has never lied on a federal form asking him about his drug use.

But continue on with whatever you want trying to excuse a felonious act by the Presidents son....
If Rogan owns guns , then he lied on his federal background check or he has never used drugs ? You tell me ??? I grow tired of your lack of understanding. Have you ever bought a gun ?
Tell me what is asked on that form .
You are gaslighting at this point. The form doesn’t allow drug use & gun ownership as long as you are responsible. It’s a simple yes or no !
Do you use drugs yes or no ?
So in your world there is no proof Rogan uses drugs or owns a gun ? You sound like a progressive lawyer from far left field.


The form asks if you are a user of illegal substances - not if you have used in the past, but a current user. This is also at the time of purchase, not at any given point down the road. There is always wiggle room and interpretation with laws, that's why they are so concise and add so much verbiage and definitions - it's by the letter, not what we think it might mean to us, personally. If it's not explicitly written into the law or code, it is open ended.

If he wasn't an active user at the time of purchase, he's good. Same with the time of obtainment of a CPL. If he purchased firearms from an individual, then BOOM - no federal form to potentially lie about.

Hunter raises some questions however, after posting videos of him actively doing drugs while in possession of firearms. There's usually a plethora of laws that say you can't do that.

If we want to get on the technicalities.
www.atf.gov...
It’s a federal form & not a state form . Weed is illegal under the federal government.
You have zero understanding of federal gun laws.


Ok, I'll just go to the attorneys I work with and say "sorry guys, the last 10 years of knowledge and experience, trials, legal research, meetings, hearings, and advise are out the window. My bad."

I never said it was a state form. I understand that it's illegal under the Federal Laws. I also understand the following:

The form asks if you are a user of illegal substances - not if you have used in the past, but a current user. This is also at the time of purchase, not at any given point down the road. There is always wiggle room and interpretation with laws, that's why they are so concise and add so much verbiage and definitions - it's by the letter, not what we think it might mean to us, personally. If it's not explicitly written into the law or code, it is open ended.

If he wasn't an active user at the time of purchase, he's good. Same with the time of obtainment of a CPL. If he purchased firearms from an individual, then BOOM - no federal form to potentially lie about.


www.sportskeeda.com...
Pay close attention to him talking about getting his concealed carry permit . Weed is illegal both in Texas & at the federal level .
You are just spinning your tires in the mud at this point on this whole subject


What does a conceal carry permit have to do with firearm purchase? What does the ATF questions on a firearm sales record have to do with a permit to carry?

Where does it say in the majority of states, Texas included, anything about current, past, etc., drug use and obtainment of a permit? Fun fact: carry permits and their subsequent requirements are dictated by the state, not the federal government. For example, in Michigan, you can have a 3 year and 1 day old conviction (or pending charge) of driving intoxicated under the influence of "coka-cola" and still get a permit with zero issue. If a 4 year window of drug use qualifying you as a "user" was true, that provision would be different and/or non-existent. People that we have helped at our office and by proxy of others would have been denied right off the rip.

The questions are black and white. The fine print is black and white.

Don't make stuff up as you go along and claim that I'm over here spinning tires. Please and thank you.
No one gets a firearm conceal carry permit to carry guns owned by other people. No one in their right mind would be the owner of a gun and let someone else carry it legally , because if liability issues. You are gaslighting & unable to understand basic gun laws . Is there anymore delusions you want to table ? I will not respond to any further comments from you based on your agenda bias instead of the law .


First, I think you responded to the wrong thing.

On that note, since what you said is wrong like a lot of other things and based on your feelings, I can go into detail. You won't respond anyway apparently, so why not.

Agenda bias and understanding of gun law...... Pot, meet Kettle. You seem familiar. I apologize that a career in law rubs you the wrong way and goes against your mindset, but it is what it is. You've moved those goalposts so many times, I'm having trouble keeping up. Holy crap. Move that goal 10 yards at a time and claim others are gaslighting? I might personally need therapy after this.

A lot of times people don't get concealed permits for the *sole purpose* of carrying someone else's gun; I'll give that to you, although I had to add that emphasis due to people in open carry states and their desires.

Here's the thing, though. People let others borrower firearms. Your feelings on the matter don't set policy or dictate other's actions. Somewhat generally speaking, firearms can be loaned to others. You definitely don't want to loan one to someone you don't trust, don't know, doesn't handle them safely, or anything like that. While criminal liability may be off the table, you can always face civil troubles and lawsuits from families and angry people.
I was a FFL holder for over 20 years .. oh all those big colourful stamps.
Your legal advice would put people behind bars



posted on Dec, 12 2023 @ 11:39 AM
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originally posted by: BehindYou

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: BehindYou

See last response. Name one range you have been to that tells you they do a background check on you to rent a firearm. And if you are not made aware of the check, it is illegal for them to do so without your consent.

You sound as crazy as the guy a while ago that said Penske and U-Haul do a background check on you when you rent a truck from them.


www.actiontarget.com...#:~:text=Gun%20ranges%20cannot%20legally%20run,in%20possession%20of %20the%20gun.


Gun ranges cannot legally run background checks on individuals who want to use the range or rent a weapon. This is because of a concept called “constructive possession.” As long as the rented weapon stays inside the property, the range is still lawfully in possession of the gun.
www.actiontarget.com...


did you read that link?



posted on Dec, 12 2023 @ 11:40 AM
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originally posted by: BehindYou

originally posted by: dothedew

originally posted by: BehindYou

originally posted by: dothedew

originally posted by: BehindYou

originally posted by: dothedew

originally posted by: BehindYou

originally posted by: dothedew

originally posted by: BehindYou

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: BehindYou

Asking for proof is not favoring one over the other.

Hunter, illegally bought a gun, threw it in a dumpster, all while on coc aine. And lied about it on a federal form.

Joe RESPONSIBLY uses guns and smokes pot. But, as far as I am aware, has never lied on a federal form asking him about his drug use.

But continue on with whatever you want trying to excuse a felonious act by the Presidents son....
If Rogan owns guns , then he lied on his federal background check or he has never used drugs ? You tell me ??? I grow tired of your lack of understanding. Have you ever bought a gun ?
Tell me what is asked on that form .
You are gaslighting at this point. The form doesn’t allow drug use & gun ownership as long as you are responsible. It’s a simple yes or no !
Do you use drugs yes or no ?
So in your world there is no proof Rogan uses drugs or owns a gun ? You sound like a progressive lawyer from far left field.


The form asks if you are a user of illegal substances - not if you have used in the past, but a current user. This is also at the time of purchase, not at any given point down the road. There is always wiggle room and interpretation with laws, that's why they are so concise and add so much verbiage and definitions - it's by the letter, not what we think it might mean to us, personally. If it's not explicitly written into the law or code, it is open ended.

If he wasn't an active user at the time of purchase, he's good. Same with the time of obtainment of a CPL. If he purchased firearms from an individual, then BOOM - no federal form to potentially lie about.

Hunter raises some questions however, after posting videos of him actively doing drugs while in possession of firearms. There's usually a plethora of laws that say you can't do that.

If we want to get on the technicalities.
www.atf.gov...
It’s a federal form & not a state form . Weed is illegal under the federal government.
You have zero understanding of federal gun laws.


Ok, I'll just go to the attorneys I work with and say "sorry guys, the last 10 years of knowledge and experience, trials, legal research, meetings, hearings, and advise are out the window. My bad."

I never said it was a state form. I understand that it's illegal under the Federal Laws. I also understand the following:

The form asks if you are a user of illegal substances - not if you have used in the past, but a current user. This is also at the time of purchase, not at any given point down the road. There is always wiggle room and interpretation with laws, that's why they are so concise and add so much verbiage and definitions - it's by the letter, not what we think it might mean to us, personally. If it's not explicitly written into the law or code, it is open ended.

If he wasn't an active user at the time of purchase, he's good. Same with the time of obtainment of a CPL. If he purchased firearms from an individual, then BOOM - no federal form to potentially lie about.


www.sportskeeda.com...
Pay close attention to him talking about getting his concealed carry permit . Weed is illegal both in Texas & at the federal level .
You are just spinning your tires in the mud at this point on this whole subject


What does a conceal carry permit have to do with firearm purchase? What does the ATF questions on a firearm sales record have to do with a permit to carry?

Where does it say in the majority of states, Texas included, anything about current, past, etc., drug use and obtainment of a permit? Fun fact: carry permits and their subsequent requirements are dictated by the state, not the federal government. For example, in Michigan, you can have a 3 year and 1 day old conviction (or pending charge) of driving intoxicated under the influence of "coka-cola" and still get a permit with zero issue. If a 4 year window of drug use qualifying you as a "user" was true, that provision would be different and/or non-existent. People that we have helped at our office and by proxy of others would have been denied right off the rip.

The questions are black and white. The fine print is black and white.

Don't make stuff up as you go along and claim that I'm over here spinning tires. Please and thank you.
No one gets a firearm conceal carry permit to carry guns owned by other people. No one in their right mind would be the owner of a gun and let someone else carry it legally , because if liability issues. You are gaslighting & unable to understand basic gun laws . Is there anymore delusions you want to table ? I will not respond to any further comments from you based on your agenda bias instead of the law .


First, I think you responded to the wrong thing.

On that note, since what you said is wrong like a lot of other things and based on your feelings, I can go into detail. You won't respond anyway apparently, so why not.

Agenda bias and understanding of gun law...... Pot, meet Kettle. You seem familiar. I apologize that a career in law rubs you the wrong way and goes against your mindset, but it is what it is. You've moved those goalposts so many times, I'm having trouble keeping up. Holy crap. Move that goal 10 yards at a time and claim others are gaslighting? I might personally need therapy after this.

A lot of times people don't get concealed permits for the *sole purpose* of carrying someone else's gun; I'll give that to you, although I had to add that emphasis due to people in open carry states and their desires.

Here's the thing, though. People let others borrower firearms. Your feelings on the matter don't set policy or dictate other's actions. Somewhat generally speaking, firearms can be loaned to others. You definitely don't want to loan one to someone you don't trust, don't know, doesn't handle them safely, or anything like that. While criminal liability may be off the table, you can always face civil troubles and lawsuits from families and angry people.
I was a FFL holder for over 20 years .. oh all those big colourful stamps.
Your legal advice would put people behind bars


can you list what in that post would be illegal please?



posted on Dec, 12 2023 @ 11:41 AM
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originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: BehindYou

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: JAGStorm

One can have a CCP without owning a firearm.
Absolutely true . A carry permit isn’t attached to a gun or weapon by registration.
You could use it to carry a knife or throwing star.
Do you really believe Rogan isn’t conceal carrying a pistol ? Come on , just quit with the stance you know has no legs . My OP is spot on right & exposes the hypocrisy as well the foolishness of denying 2A rights to people who use weed .
Hunter is guilty & should receive fair punishment for lying on his 4473 form .
What about Joe Rogan then ?



CAN GUN RANGES LEGALLY RUN BACKGROUND CHECKS?
Gun ranges cannot legally run background checks on individuals who want to use the range or rent a weapon. This is because of a concept called “constructive possession.” As long as the rented weapon stays inside the property, the range is still lawfully in possession of the gun.

If the individual wants to leave the property with the weapon through purchase or long-term rental, the range must then perform a background check. Once the individual goes off the property with the firearm, they are legally in possession, and restrictions are now enforced.

www.actiontarget.com...

According to the link PorkChop supplied, you are incorrect.
There are two gun ranges in my are that require background checks for range use & rentals only once per ID user & are then held on record for a year .



posted on Dec, 12 2023 @ 11:43 AM
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originally posted by: BehindYou

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: BehindYou

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: JAGStorm

One can have a CCP without owning a firearm.
Absolutely true . A carry permit isn’t attached to a gun or weapon by registration.
You could use it to carry a knife or throwing star.
Do you really believe Rogan isn’t conceal carrying a pistol ? Come on , just quit with the stance you know has no legs . My OP is spot on right & exposes the hypocrisy as well the foolishness of denying 2A rights to people who use weed .
Hunter is guilty & should receive fair punishment for lying on his 4473 form .
What about Joe Rogan then ?



CAN GUN RANGES LEGALLY RUN BACKGROUND CHECKS?
Gun ranges cannot legally run background checks on individuals who want to use the range or rent a weapon. This is because of a concept called “constructive possession.” As long as the rented weapon stays inside the property, the range is still lawfully in possession of the gun.

If the individual wants to leave the property with the weapon through purchase or long-term rental, the range must then perform a background check. Once the individual goes off the property with the firearm, they are legally in possession, and restrictions are now enforced.

www.actiontarget.com...

According to the link PorkChop supplied, you are incorrect.
There are two gun ranges in my are that require background checks for range use & rentals only once per ID user & are then held on record for a year .


and yet, that link explains why that is illegal. Do you have the name of the gun shop that does this so someone can verify it, or do we just need to take your word for it? (hint, that's sarcasm, we don't take anyone's word for anything here)



posted on Dec, 12 2023 @ 11:45 AM
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originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: BehindYou

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: BehindYou

See last response. Name one range you have been to that tells you they do a background check on you to rent a firearm. And if you are not made aware of the check, it is illegal for them to do so without your consent.

You sound as crazy as the guy a while ago that said Penske and U-Haul do a background check on you when you rent a truck from them.


www.actiontarget.com...#:~:text=Gun%20ranges%20cannot%20legally%20run,in%20possession%20of %20the%20gun.


Gun ranges cannot legally run background checks on individuals who want to use the range or rent a weapon. This is because of a concept called “constructive possession.” As long as the rented weapon stays inside the property, the range is still lawfully in possession of the gun.
www.actiontarget.com...


did you read that link?
Yes Im extremely familiar with that. A gun range cant run a background without you agreeing & signing to it.
Yes there are ranges who rent with no background ground checks . There are far more who require it.
All the outdoor ranges I belong to in my state all but 1 out of 4 don’t require a background check for membership into a private club .



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