Joe Rogan Uses Drugs & Owns Guns

originally posted by: RazorV66

originally posted by: BehindYou

originally posted by: RazorV66

originally posted by: BehindYou

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: BehindYou

Do you have any proof that he actually owns, or has purchased, any guns?

You can still use and posses firearms in the state of Texas, you just can't OWN them.

"Who is prohibited from possessing a firearm in Texas?

Under federal law, people are generally prohibited from possessing firearms if they have been convicted of a felony or some domestic violence misdemeanors, or if they are subject to certain court orders related to domestic violence or a serious mental condition."

Unbelievable the amount of mental gymnastics people go through to defend hypocrisy.
Your same logic then applies to Hunter Biden !
Hunter bought a gun & answered no to drug use.
Later on he openly admitted to drug use in various manners & the feds came knocking .
How is Joe Rogan immune to investigation of the same crimes.

As TzarChasm pointed out, Biden’s gun was found in a dumpster, that’s not responsible gun ownership.
Are you 100% positive they got him strictly for admitting drug use and not letting his gun get dumped?
Probably more like 50-50, Hunter is high AF and loses track of his gun.

The Federal form asks yes or no in regards to drug use & or drug addiction. Lying on that form is a federal crime in of itself & is the reason for Hunter’s indictment. What additional crimes you commit with a gun after lying on your federal background check are separate.
Why is this so hard to understand & the mentalRogan gymnastics around it is hilarious to me , because it proves the hypocrisy in Hunter Biden charge vs Rogan’s behavior in the open .
There is no squirming out of my simple & logical questions posted in my OpEd .

Who the F is defending Rogan here? I am not and I have seen any posts that has defended him.
If he lied, fry his ass along with Hunter.

Rogan appears in links many times here on ATS in support of right leaning politics .

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: BehindYou

The law is to antiquated on this issue.

It’s too broadly defined when the scope is obvious, people possessing guns in the sale of drugs (which is one of the leading causes of gun crime).

Like almost any other crime, I’d like to see intent be a factor in prosecution.

Are you a well off individual who lives a balanced life with no clear intent to commit crimes? And I don’t even mean well off as rich, I just mean is it obvious someone makes an effort at having their life in order.

If you’re not involved in drug trafficking, I don’t see how smoking weed is any different than drinking. In fact, if we took out trafficking of weed, I’d be hard pressed to learn more people use a weapon while under the influence of weed than alcohol.

These laws shouldn’t be arbitrary, they should be thoughtful.

I completely agree, but currently, the law is as is and until it's changed, it will be this way. But the good news in all this, is that Hunter's lawyers are arguing the case for all of us, so that the law will have to be changed, or he will be guilty and serve some time. So something good might come from a Biden. Whodathunkit.

These laws do need to be revisited and addressed.

I just hope the dice rolls come up in favor of citizens.

doesn't it usually work in our favor?

//sarcasm//

a reply to: BehindYou

Asking for proof is not favoring one over the other.

Hunter, illegally bought a gun, threw it in a dumpster, all while on coc aine. And lied about it on a federal form.

Joe RESPONSIBLY uses guns and smokes pot. But, as far as I am aware, has never lied on a federal form asking him about his drug use.

But continue on with whatever you want trying to excuse a felonious act by the Presidents son....

originally posted by: BehindYou

originally posted by: RazorV66

originally posted by: BehindYou

originally posted by: RazorV66

originally posted by: BehindYou

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: BehindYou

Do you have any proof that he actually owns, or has purchased, any guns?

You can still use and posses firearms in the state of Texas, you just can't OWN them.

"Who is prohibited from possessing a firearm in Texas?

Under federal law, people are generally prohibited from possessing firearms if they have been convicted of a felony or some domestic violence misdemeanors, or if they are subject to certain court orders related to domestic violence or a serious mental condition."

Unbelievable the amount of mental gymnastics people go through to defend hypocrisy.
Your same logic then applies to Hunter Biden !
Hunter bought a gun & answered no to drug use.
Later on he openly admitted to drug use in various manners & the feds came knocking .
How is Joe Rogan immune to investigation of the same crimes.

As TzarChasm pointed out, Biden’s gun was found in a dumpster, that’s not responsible gun ownership.
Are you 100% positive they got him strictly for admitting drug use and not letting his gun get dumped?
Probably more like 50-50, Hunter is high AF and loses track of his gun.

The Federal form asks yes or no in regards to drug use & or drug addiction. Lying on that form is a federal crime in of itself & is the reason for Hunter’s indictment. What additional crimes you commit with a gun after lying on your federal background check are separate.
Why is this so hard to understand & the mentalRogan gymnastics around it is hilarious to me , because it proves the hypocrisy in Hunter Biden charge vs Rogan’s behavior in the open .
There is no squirming out of my simple & logical questions posted in my OpEd .

Who the F is defending Rogan here? I am not and I have seen any posts that has defended him.
If he lied, fry his ass along with Hunter.

Rogan appears in links many times here on ATS in support of right leaning politics .

He has logical arguments, and is largely against douchebaggery. But he has stated many times, he is NOT a conservative. I can get why his logic and arguments tend to look that way, being as they are counter to most of what the left displays.

The law in Texas states “an illegal user”. Texas has medical marijuana now. The license is registered through DPS. They can rule you cant own firearms if your “condition” prevents safe usage, not THC.
Texas has a list of conditions, one being nerve damage like fibromyalgia. Which I’m guessing is the go to for most rec users.

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: BehindYou

Asking for proof is not favoring one over the other.

Hunter, illegally bought a gun, threw it in a dumpster, all while on coc aine. And lied about it on a federal form.

Joe RESPONSIBLY uses guns and smokes pot. But, as far as I am aware, has never lied on a federal form asking him about his drug use.

But continue on with whatever you want trying to excuse a felonious act by the Presidents son....

since we are discussing the hypothetical ramifications of all this, it would make sense that we would need to see the evidence that he indeed filled out a form 4473 and lied on that form. We have to assume Hunter did since he is being charged by the investigating US Attorney. Once we have that proof, then we can assume the same about Joe Rogan. But without it, he's no more guilty of it than the OP.

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: BehindYou

Asking for proof is not favoring one over the other.

Hunter, illegally bought a gun, threw it in a dumpster, all while on coc aine. And lied about it on a federal form.

Joe RESPONSIBLY uses guns and smokes pot. But, as far as I am aware, has never lied on a federal form asking him about his drug use.

But continue on with whatever you want trying to excuse a felonious act by the Presidents son....

If Rogan owns guns , then he lied on his federal background check or he has never used drugs ? You tell me ??? I grow tired of your lack of understanding. Have you ever bought a gun ?
Tell me what is asked on that form .
You are gaslighting at this point. The form doesn’t allow drug use & gun ownership as long as you are responsible. It’s a simple yes or no !
Do you use drugs yes or no ?
So in your world there is no proof Rogan uses drugs or owns a gun ? You sound like a progressive lawyer from far left field.

a reply to: BehindYou

Here's the thing.

Hunter is a scumbag that is intertwined with multiple countries by and through his dad, resulting in millions upon millions of dollars of bribes, kickbacks, foreign policy adjustments, additional laws both national and international being violated; not to mention the surfacing of blatant election interference evidence by way of alphabet agencies and the government controlled media.

Then we have a talk show host.

Yes. Yes, we apply that standard unevenly, and we do it proudly.

a reply to: BehindYou

S&F
Excellent post.

Both sides talk out of both sides of their neck and all us in the middle are sick of it.

a reply to: BehindYou

I have simply asked proof that he OWNS guns.

You cannot provide that

Again, possession and ownership are two different things. And since he is not a felon, he can legally posses firearms in Texas.

Move on buddy

originally posted by: BehindYou

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: BehindYou

Asking for proof is not favoring one over the other.

Hunter, illegally bought a gun, threw it in a dumpster, all while on coc aine. And lied about it on a federal form.

Joe RESPONSIBLY uses guns and smokes pot. But, as far as I am aware, has never lied on a federal form asking him about his drug use.

But continue on with whatever you want trying to excuse a felonious act by the Presidents son....

If Rogan owns guns , then he lied on his federal background check or he has never used drugs ? You tell me ??? I grow tired of your lack of understanding. Have you ever bought a gun ?
Tell me what is asked on that form .
You are gaslighting at this point. The form doesn’t allow drug use & gun ownership as long as you are responsible. It’s a simple yes or no !
Do you use drugs yes or no ?
So in your world there is no proof Rogan uses drugs or owns a gun ? You sound like a progressive lawyer from far left field.

what proof do you offer that Joe Rogan filled out a form 4473 and lied? (you have to play fair on this one, it's your ball)

originally posted by: Texastruth2
The law in Texas states “an illegal user”. Texas has medical marijuana now. The license is registered through DPS. They can rule you cant own firearms if your “condition” prevents safe usage, not THC.
Texas has a list of conditions, one being nerve damage like fibromyalgia. Which I’m guessing is the go to for most rec users.

The Federal law trumps ALL state laws . You really don’t understand this subject at all or you are grasping at straws not to accept the double standard in my thread .

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: BehindYou

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: BehindYou

Asking for proof is not favoring one over the other.

Hunter, illegally bought a gun, threw it in a dumpster, all while on coc aine. And lied about it on a federal form.

Joe RESPONSIBLY uses guns and smokes pot. But, as far as I am aware, has never lied on a federal form asking him about his drug use.

But continue on with whatever you want trying to excuse a felonious act by the Presidents son....

If Rogan owns guns , then he lied on his federal background check or he has never used drugs ? You tell me ??? I grow tired of your lack of understanding. Have you ever bought a gun ?
Tell me what is asked on that form .
You are gaslighting at this point. The form doesn’t allow drug use & gun ownership as long as you are responsible. It’s a simple yes or no !
Do you use drugs yes or no ?
So in your world there is no proof Rogan uses drugs or owns a gun ? You sound like a progressive lawyer from far left field.

what proof do you offer that Joe Rogan filled out a form 4473 and lied? (you have to play fair on this one, it's your ball)

If Rogan is the owner of a gun he either lied on the 4473 or bought it legally from a friend without paperwork which is legal in many states , but still violates federal law by possessing guns & using drugs . Federal law doesn’t protect a husband who uses drugs & his wife is the owner of the guns & drug free . No illegal drug users are allowed to be in possession or use of any guns that use gunpowder as a propellant post 1898 manufacturing period .
If your wife has a lawful gun in her purse while driving & her husband is high on illegal drugs while being pulled over there is trouble.

originally posted by: BehindYou

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: BehindYou

Asking for proof is not favoring one over the other.

Hunter, illegally bought a gun, threw it in a dumpster, all while on coc aine. And lied about it on a federal form.

Joe RESPONSIBLY uses guns and smokes pot. But, as far as I am aware, has never lied on a federal form asking him about his drug use.

But continue on with whatever you want trying to excuse a felonious act by the Presidents son....

If Rogan owns guns , then he lied on his federal background check or he has never used drugs ? You tell me ??? I grow tired of your lack of understanding. Have you ever bought a gun ?
Tell me what is asked on that form .
You are gaslighting at this point. The form doesn’t allow drug use & gun ownership as long as you are responsible. It’s a simple yes or no !
Do you use drugs yes or no ?
So in your world there is no proof Rogan uses drugs or owns a gun ? You sound like a progressive lawyer from far left field.

The form asks if you are a user of illegal substances - not if you have used in the past, but a current user. This is also at the time of purchase, not at any given point down the road. There is always wiggle room and interpretation with laws, that's why they are so concise and add so much verbiage and definitions - it's by the letter, not what we think it might mean to us, personally. If it's not explicitly written into the law or code, it is open ended.

If he wasn't an active user at the time of purchase, he's good. Same with the time of obtainment of a CPL. If he purchased firearms from an individual, then BOOM - no federal form to potentially lie about.

Hunter raises some questions however, after posting videos of him actively doing drugs while in possession of firearms. There's usually a plethora of laws that say you can't do that.

If we want to get on the technicalities.

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: BehindYou

Asking for proof is not favoring one over the other.

Hunter, illegally bought a gun, threw it in a dumpster, all while on coc aine. And lied about it on a federal form.

Joe RESPONSIBLY uses guns and smokes pot. But, as far as I am aware, has never lied on a federal form asking him about his drug use.

But continue on with whatever you want trying to excuse a felonious act by the Presidents son....

Show me one comment where I support Hunter Biden , it’s quite the opposite actually if you would bother to read any of this OP or thread .
You really have zero understanding of federal gun laws in regards to drug use .

originally posted by: BehindYou

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: BehindYou

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: BehindYou

Asking for proof is not favoring one over the other.

Hunter, illegally bought a gun, threw it in a dumpster, all while on coc aine. And lied about it on a federal form.

Joe RESPONSIBLY uses guns and smokes pot. But, as far as I am aware, has never lied on a federal form asking him about his drug use.

But continue on with whatever you want trying to excuse a felonious act by the Presidents son....

If Rogan owns guns , then he lied on his federal background check or he has never used drugs ? You tell me ??? I grow tired of your lack of understanding. Have you ever bought a gun ?
Tell me what is asked on that form .
You are gaslighting at this point. The form doesn’t allow drug use & gun ownership as long as you are responsible. It’s a simple yes or no !
Do you use drugs yes or no ?
So in your world there is no proof Rogan uses drugs or owns a gun ? You sound like a progressive lawyer from far left field.

what proof do you offer that Joe Rogan filled out a form 4473 and lied? (you have to play fair on this one, it's your ball)

If Rogan is the owner of a gun he either lied on the 4473 or bought it legally from a friend without paperwork which is legal in many states , but still violates federal law by possessing guns & using drugs . Federal law doesn’t protect a husband who uses drugs & his wife is the owner of the guns & drug free . No illegal drug users are allowed to be in possession or use of any guns that use gunpowder as a propellant post 1898 manufacturing period .
If your wife has a lawful gun in her purse while driving & her husband is high on illegal drugs while being pulled over there is trouble.

I agree. If. We have to assume Hunter did this as he has been charged, and if he didn't do it, then there is no case.

But by that same token, if you cannot produce the form, or an indictment of Joe Rogan for this crime, there is no available proof to prove he did this. I think he may own guns, but I don't know. I have never seen him with a gun, never shot with him, and actually never met him, though I would love to hang out with him for an afternoon.

originally posted by: dothedew

originally posted by: BehindYou

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: BehindYou

Asking for proof is not favoring one over the other.

Hunter, illegally bought a gun, threw it in a dumpster, all while on coc aine. And lied about it on a federal form.

Joe RESPONSIBLY uses guns and smokes pot. But, as far as I am aware, has never lied on a federal form asking him about his drug use.

But continue on with whatever you want trying to excuse a felonious act by the Presidents son....

If Rogan owns guns , then he lied on his federal background check or he has never used drugs ? You tell me ??? I grow tired of your lack of understanding. Have you ever bought a gun ?
Tell me what is asked on that form .
You are gaslighting at this point. The form doesn’t allow drug use & gun ownership as long as you are responsible. It’s a simple yes or no !
Do you use drugs yes or no ?
So in your world there is no proof Rogan uses drugs or owns a gun ? You sound like a progressive lawyer from far left field.

The form asks if you are a user of illegal substances - not if you have used in the past, but a current user. This is also at the time of purchase, not at any given point down the road. There is always wiggle room and interpretation with laws, that's why they are so concise and add so much verbiage and definitions - it's by the letter, not what we think it might mean to us, personally. If it's not explicitly written into the law or code, it is open ended.

If he wasn't an active user at the time of purchase, he's good. Same with the time of obtainment of a CPL. If he purchased firearms from an individual, then BOOM - no federal form to potentially lie about.

Hunter raises some questions however, after posting videos of him actively doing drugs while in possession of firearms. There's usually a plethora of laws that say you can't do that.

If we want to get on the technicalities.

www.atf.gov...
It’s a federal form & not a state form . Weed is illegal under the federal government.
You have zero understanding of federal gun laws.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: BehindYou

The law is to antiquated on this issue.

It’s too broadly defined when the scope is obvious, people possessing guns in the sale of drugs (which is one of the leading causes of gun crime).

Like almost any other crime, I’d like to see intent be a factor in prosecution.

Are you a well off individual who lives a balanced life with no clear intent to commit crimes? And I don’t even mean well off as rich, I just mean is it obvious someone makes an effort at having their life in order.

If you’re not involved in drug trafficking, I don’t see how smoking weed is any different than drinking. In fact, if we took out trafficking of weed, I’d be hard pressed to learn more people use a weapon while under the influence of weed than alcohol.

These laws shouldn’t be arbitrary, they should be thoughtful.

I completely agree, but currently, the law is as is and until it's changed, it will be this way. But the good news in all this, is that Hunter's lawyers are arguing the case for all of us, so that the law will have to be changed, or he will be guilty and serve some time. So something good might come from a Biden. Whodathunkit.

These laws do need to be revisited and addressed.

I just hope the dice rolls come up in favor of citizens.

doesn't it usually work in our favor?

//sarcasm//

There’s only one way to find out unfortunately.

We buy short term Put options on Spotify and then report Joe Rogan to the Feds. This will enable us to put our theory to the test. It’s not about money, it’s about having something tangible to measure.

originally posted by: dothedew

originally posted by: BehindYou

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: BehindYou

Asking for proof is not favoring one over the other.

Hunter, illegally bought a gun, threw it in a dumpster, all while on coc aine. And lied about it on a federal form.

Joe RESPONSIBLY uses guns and smokes pot. But, as far as I am aware, has never lied on a federal form asking him about his drug use.

But continue on with whatever you want trying to excuse a felonious act by the Presidents son....

If Rogan owns guns , then he lied on his federal background check or he has never used drugs ? You tell me ??? I grow tired of your lack of understanding. Have you ever bought a gun ?
Tell me what is asked on that form .
You are gaslighting at this point. The form doesn’t allow drug use & gun ownership as long as you are responsible. It’s a simple yes or no !
Do you use drugs yes or no ?
So in your world there is no proof Rogan uses drugs or owns a gun ? You sound like a progressive lawyer from far left field.

The form asks if you are a user of illegal substances - not if you have used in the past, but a current user. This is also at the time of purchase, not at any given point down the road. There is always wiggle room and interpretation with laws, that's why they are so concise and add so much verbiage and definitions - it's by the letter, not what we think it might mean to us, personally. If it's not explicitly written into the law or code, it is open ended.

If he wasn't an active user at the time of purchase, he's good. Same with the time of obtainment of a CPL. If he purchased firearms from an individual, then BOOM - no federal form to potentially lie about.

Hunter raises some questions however, after posting videos of him actively doing drugs while in possession of firearms. There's usually a plethora of laws that say you can't do that.

If we want to get on the technicalities.

If you used weed or other illegal drugs 4 years ago or yesterday still makes you a USER of drugs .
Do you use food ? It’s not a time sensitive question.
If you don’t believe me , call the ATF & they can clear it up for you lickity split .
So if you smoked a joint three weeks ago , that makes you a non-user today ? Your logic is extremely flawed & wrong